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Posted on 11/27/24 at 6:58 am to Dallaswho
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if your last minute Bama loss on the road is a win, then your last minute home defense of Mizzou is a loss.
Nobody is saying it’s a win. They’re saying the game was close enough that the rest of the season could lift them over Bama if they win.
If Mizzou was in the convo, you could maybe make the same argument. But they aren’t
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:01 am to CNB
I feel like the Top 10 are all in with a win this week, with the championship games only impacting seeding. These 10 plus the B12 & G5 champ give us 12. The only exception I could see is an 11-2 SMU might get jumped by a 10-2 Clemson team, but that is it. In saying that, we’ll probably get 1 upset somewhere - I have the Miami / Syracuse game circled for the upset special.
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 7:04 am
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:13 am to LSUTigresFan
quote:That game @Clemson is huge for them.
USCe at 15 is huge
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:21 am to War Eagle 777
quote:I'm not assuming Texas will beat A&M, and if they don't, they are out of the SEC CCG.
Why is everyone assuming Texas will beat Georgia? What was the score in Austin?
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:27 am to Sooner a Reb
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That game @Clemson is huge for them.
It has more impact for Bama, really.
SC wins, and it clears the path for Bama to get back in the top 12. SC has no legit path to jump 4 spots.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:35 am to RoyalAir
I have not followed the CFP rankings this season for obvious reasons…but that is a weak lineup.
SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY CRITERIA IS FEWER NUMBER OF LOSSES…..
The old BCS would do a better job than this committee….or even just the Sagarin ranking……
SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY CRITERIA IS FEWER NUMBER OF LOSSES…..
The old BCS would do a better job than this committee….or even just the Sagarin ranking……
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:36 am to ChestRockwell
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Relax. South Carolina wins, they get in, no matter what.
Based on what the committee has shown thus far, how do you figure? I think that they should, but if Bama beats Auburn, the committee has shown they're not willing to rank a team with the same number of losses ahead of someone they lost to.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:39 am to Zgeo
Here's the simulated BCS rankings. Not much difference.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:50 am to gatorhata9
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Based on what the committee has shown thus far, how do you figure?
I'm with you. Look, I hope beyond all hope that SC beats Clemson and gets in, because I truly believe they're one of the best 12 teams in the country. I think they pass the eye test on every metric.
But I just don't see a path absent a ton of even more chaos.
I'll be happy with 9-3 and a Clemson win. Of course. But to know what could have/should have been is also difficult.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 7:58 am to RoyalAir
quote:I'm not so sure about this, if SC dominates Clemson on the road, and Bama struggles, I can absolutely see them hopping Bama H2H or not, remember a few years ago when Bama jumped Tennessee despite the H2H loss?
SC wins, and it clears the path for Bama to get back in the top 12. SC has no legit path to jump 4 spots.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:05 am to Sooner a Reb
TN lost to a bad SC team by 25 points though when they dropped them like that.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:10 am to Gator Fever
And Bama lost to a bad OU last week by 21... this committee values H2H too highly
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:11 am to gatorhata9
Because South Carolina has been playing as well as anyone in the country right now. Crazier things have happened. The only team that is sitting pretty in the SEC is Tennessee. UGA, and Texas could lose the opportunity to host a playoff game, and ATM could sneak in by winning the SECCG if they win the next 2. There's plenty football left. BTW, the SEC is going to beat each other up every season, while teams like Indiana, or SMU, play a bunch of also rans every year. I was content with 4 teams. You mean to tell me Indiana can beat Tennessee, or Georgia? Gimme a break.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:13 am to atlgamecockman
How can you value H2H too highly? It answers the question “which team is better on the field” perfectly when comparing two similar records and resumes
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 8:26 am
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:19 am to IMSA_Fan
Because it doesn't answer the question of "Which team is better right now?"
Let me give you a scenario:
Ole Miss and Carolina win this weekend by a TD or two.
Who are you ranking higher?
The team who just lost a clunker to unranked UF and has a comfortable if close win against a shite tier MSU?
Or the team who just beat top 12 Clemson for their 4th ranked win in a row?
Let me give you a scenario:
Ole Miss and Carolina win this weekend by a TD or two.
Who are you ranking higher?
The team who just lost a clunker to unranked UF and has a comfortable if close win against a shite tier MSU?
Or the team who just beat top 12 Clemson for their 4th ranked win in a row?
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:22 am to atlgamecockman
I’m taking the team that beat the other team at home by >20 points. It’s not about the best team at the moment. It’s about the most deserving team based on a full season body of work
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 8:23 am
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:29 am to IMSA_Fan
Well then you can't value Bama and OM's wins any higher than their shitty losses.... As I said in the previous comment, Bama and OM's lows are lower than Carolinas. Their highs are higher but that just means they're more inconsistent.
Bama losses: Vandy (bad), Oklahoma (bad), UT
Ole Miss Losses: Kentucky (bad), UF (bad), LSU
SC Losses: Ole Miss (bad), Bama, LSU (Ref BS)
The committee values the high points more but if you take the season as a whole, Carolina has been more consistent.
Edit: I'm just saying the committee would be smart to look at recent trends and not just a result that happened 8 weeks ago. The teams are clearly different and if they want the best matchups, they have to factor that in.
Bama losses: Vandy (bad), Oklahoma (bad), UT
Ole Miss Losses: Kentucky (bad), UF (bad), LSU
SC Losses: Ole Miss (bad), Bama, LSU (Ref BS)
The committee values the high points more but if you take the season as a whole, Carolina has been more consistent.
Edit: I'm just saying the committee would be smart to look at recent trends and not just a result that happened 8 weeks ago. The teams are clearly different and if they want the best matchups, they have to factor that in.
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 8:34 am
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:30 am to IMSA_Fan
What all this is saying is that the SEC is a much tougher environment. Teams can rack up stats and wins in other conferences and still be weak teams compared SEC teams with more losses…..
PSU, SMU, Tulane, Boise, UNLV,Illinois, Clemson Indiana, would not fare well in the SEC but they are all on the CFP rankings….
PSU, SMU, Tulane, Boise, UNLV,Illinois, Clemson Indiana, would not fare well in the SEC but they are all on the CFP rankings….
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 8:31 am
Posted on 11/27/24 at 9:00 am to IMSA_Fan
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It’s not about the best team at the moment. It’s about the most deserving team based on a full season body of work
Are you on the committee? Who the hell knows what they value.
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