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10 of 14 ESPN writers think there will be 2 SEC teams in the playoffs
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:56 am
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:56 am
Andrea Adelson: 1. Clemson; 2. Alabama; 3. Oklahoma; 4. LSU
Edward Aschoff: 1. Clemson; 2. LSU; 3. Alabama; 4. Ohio State
Kyle Bonagura: 1. Clemson; 2. Alabama; 3. Oklahoma; 4. Ohio State
Bill Connelly: 1. Alabama; 2. Clemson; 3. LSU; 4. Oklahoma
Heather Dinich: 1. Clemson; 2. Alabama; 3. LSU; 4. Oklahoma
David M. Hale: 1. Clemson; 2. Alabama; 3. Oklahoma; 4. Georgia
Sam Khan Jr.: 1. LSU; 2. Clemson; 3. Alabama; 4. Oklahoma
Chris Low: 1. LSU; 2. Clemson; 3. Alabama; 4. Oklahoma
Ivan Maisel: 1. Clemson; 2. Alabama; 3. Oklahoma; 4. Ohio State
Ryan McGee: 1. Clemson; 2. LSU; 3. Oklahoma; 4. Alabama
Adam Rittenberg: 1. Clemson; 2. Alabama; 3. LSU; 4. Ohio State
Alex Scarborough: 1. Clemson; 2. Oklahoma; 3. Alabama; 4. Ohio State
Mark Schlabach: 1. Clemson; 2. Alabama; 3. Georgia; 4. Oklahoma
Tom VanHaaren: 1. Clemson; 2. Alabama; 3. Oklahoma; 4. Ohio State
What is more interesting is that with the exception of 4 or 5 writers, everyone else has a presumably undefeated LSU/Alabama behind Clemson. I would think with the teams they would have to beat in order to be undefeated, they would get bumped ahead of Clemson.
Edward Aschoff: 1. Clemson; 2. LSU; 3. Alabama; 4. Ohio State
Kyle Bonagura: 1. Clemson; 2. Alabama; 3. Oklahoma; 4. Ohio State
Bill Connelly: 1. Alabama; 2. Clemson; 3. LSU; 4. Oklahoma
Heather Dinich: 1. Clemson; 2. Alabama; 3. LSU; 4. Oklahoma
David M. Hale: 1. Clemson; 2. Alabama; 3. Oklahoma; 4. Georgia
Sam Khan Jr.: 1. LSU; 2. Clemson; 3. Alabama; 4. Oklahoma
Chris Low: 1. LSU; 2. Clemson; 3. Alabama; 4. Oklahoma
Ivan Maisel: 1. Clemson; 2. Alabama; 3. Oklahoma; 4. Ohio State
Ryan McGee: 1. Clemson; 2. LSU; 3. Oklahoma; 4. Alabama
Adam Rittenberg: 1. Clemson; 2. Alabama; 3. LSU; 4. Ohio State
Alex Scarborough: 1. Clemson; 2. Oklahoma; 3. Alabama; 4. Ohio State
Mark Schlabach: 1. Clemson; 2. Alabama; 3. Georgia; 4. Oklahoma
Tom VanHaaren: 1. Clemson; 2. Alabama; 3. Oklahoma; 4. Ohio State
What is more interesting is that with the exception of 4 or 5 writers, everyone else has a presumably undefeated LSU/Alabama behind Clemson. I would think with the teams they would have to beat in order to be undefeated, they would get bumped ahead of Clemson.
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:58 am to BallsEleven
The only way that happens is if, similar to 2017, the 2nd SEC team has only 1 loss while the team they're competing against for the 4th spot has 2 losses.
Even if LSU looks phenomenal all year but loses to bama and goes 11-1, they still aren't getting in if the other teams win their conference with 1 loss.
Even if LSU looks phenomenal all year but loses to bama and goes 11-1, they still aren't getting in if the other teams win their conference with 1 loss.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:01 pm to WG_Dawg
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Even if LSU looks phenomenal all year but loses to bama and goes 11-1, they still aren't getting in if the other teams win their conference with 1 loss.
What if that other 1 loss team was Texas and LSU loses a close one to Bama? Or Ohio State gets taken to the wood shed by Purdue?
There are paths to the playoffs with a 1 loss SEC team.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:02 pm to BallsEleven
Obviously Clemson is in and whoever wins the SEC. The Pac 12 appears out. Oklahoma is almost certainly in. So the other spot will come down to the #2 SEC team, Notre Dame or Big 10 winner. I think probably we get Ohio State or Penn State or Notre Dame undefeated or 1 loss over a 1 loss SEC#2. So no, I don’t think we get 2 in.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:04 pm to BallsEleven
did you miss this part:
if bama, the ACC champ (clemson), the big 12 champ (either OU/Tx) and the big 10 champ (OSU/UM) have 1 or 0 losses, those teams are in. Period. End of story. There is literally not a scenario that would put LSU in if those 4 conference champs all have 1 or 0 loss.
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if the other teams win their conference with 1 loss.
if bama, the ACC champ (clemson), the big 12 champ (either OU/Tx) and the big 10 champ (OSU/UM) have 1 or 0 losses, those teams are in. Period. End of story. There is literally not a scenario that would put LSU in if those 4 conference champs all have 1 or 0 loss.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:06 pm to DonaldDuckworth
I would think ND would have to win out to get in, especially against Georgia. That is likely who they would be matching up against for the final spot assuming Georgia would win out but drop the SEC championship game.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:07 pm to BallsEleven
They say the same thing every year.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:08 pm to WG_Dawg
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What if that other 1 loss team was Texas and LSU loses a close one to Bama?
So you would have no problem with Texas going to the playoffs in the above scenario?
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:09 pm to BallsEleven
If Texas has one loss and wins their conference..............not a damn bit of a problem with it.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:12 pm to BallsEleven
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So you would have no problem with Texas going to the playoffs in the above scenario?
Texas would be a conference champion which LSU would not, including 2 wins over a top 5 Oklahoma. I'm just telling you what logic and rationale would prove to be, I'm not the one on the committee. Your resume is all that matters to the playoff committee. Winning your conference is extremely important. Not losing bad games is important. Good wins are important. Neither team would have a bad loss. Texas would be a conference champ but not LSU. Texas would have 2 wins that are as good or better as LSU's best.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:12 pm to MrAUTigers
Weird but ok
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:13 pm to MrAUTigers
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If Texas has one loss and wins their conference..............not a damn bit of a problem with it.
you gotta realize this is an LSU fan we're dealing with. Anything that doesn't end up in their favor is a conspiracy against them. Can you imagine the committee telling a 12-1 big 12 champion texas fresh off their 2nd win of the season over Oklahoma that they're out of the playoffs in favor of LSU? LOL
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:17 pm to WG_Dawg
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Texas would be a conference champion which LSU would not, including 2 wins over a top 5 Oklahoma. I'm just telling you what logic and rationale would prove to be, I'm not the one on the committee. Your resume is all that matters to the playoff committee. Winning your conference is extremely important. Not losing bad games is important. Good wins are important. Neither team would have a bad loss. Texas would be a conference champ but not LSU. Texas would have 2 wins that are as good or better as LSU's best.
You definitely make a valid argument. Texas would have 2 quality wins. I would just think the committee would look at the head to head matchup and the fact that LSU beat them on the road into strong consideration. Add in the fact that in that scenario, LSU would beat probably a top 10 Florida or Auburn team.
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you gotta realize this is an LSU fan we're dealing with. Anything that doesn't end up in their favor is a conspiracy against them. Can you imagine the committee telling a 12-1 big 12 champion texas fresh off their 2nd win of the season over Oklahoma that they're out of the playoffs in favor of LSU? LOL
Just when I thought I found a level headed person to have a decent football debate with.This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:20 pm to BallsEleven
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2 SEC teams in the playoffs
Looks like 8 out of 10 are assuming the SECw team that doesn’t win the division gets in.
I’m torn on this. As an LSU fan who might benefit from a second chance, I’m happy. As an LSU fan who had to play against Bama twice in 2011, I feel like it’s bullshite.
My bigger issue is the thought that you can lose to the SEC champ in the regular season and get in, but if you lose to the SEC champ in the SEC championship game you’re out. I know 2 of the 10 had UGA and Bama making it, but history has shown us that if you don’t win the conference championship game, your best chance is to also not win your division.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:22 pm to BallsEleven
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I would just think the committee would look at the head to head matchup and the fact that LSU beat them on the road into strong consideration
it would be a strong factor, in fact it would literally be the only reason why it wouldn't be a 100% slam dunk shoo in. But conference winners are a major deal, and again Texas would have 2 wins as good or better than LSU's best.
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Add in the fact that in that scenario, LSU would beat probably a top 10 Florida or Auburn team.
I hate to break this to you but neither of those are going to sniff the top 10 based on what we've seen so far. They play each other so 1 has an auto-loss. They both play LSU and UGA which are both likely losses. AU plays bama which is another loss. Those are both 8-4/9-3 type teams.
Circling back around to my original point, if Texas has TWO losses, that makes things extremely interseting. Let's say TX loses to OU but then beats them again to win the big 12. Honestly in that situation I have zero idea what the committee would do but it would not shock me to put in LSU. But again, no champion of the SEC/ACC/Big10/Big12 is ever getting left out with 0 or 1 loss. Or I guess I should say it would take a lot of frickiness like the 1 loss being to a scrub and ND going 12-0 or something.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:25 pm to WG_Dawg
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I hate to break this to you but neither of those are going to sniff the top 10 based on what we've seen so far.
Both are top 10 right now. They play each other before they play LSU so unless they drop the ball with another team they will be top 10. I do not think they will end up top 10 at the end of the season but neither would OU if they dropped 2 to UT.
Edited for clarification.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:29 pm to BallsEleven
Only way the SEC will have two teams in is if the Pac 12 AND the Big 10 Champs have two loses. Think about TVs.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:30 pm to BallsEleven
It's early but it is trending that way.
PAC 12 is pretty much done already.
ACC is Clemson close to a lock even with one loss barring major upset
Certain SEC teams ought to be very concerned as a one loss team depending on SOS
PAC 12 is pretty much done already.
ACC is Clemson close to a lock even with one loss barring major upset
Certain SEC teams ought to be very concerned as a one loss team depending on SOS
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:15 pm to nicholastiger
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PAC 12 is pretty much done already.
Oregon runs the table and gets in. OSU can lose one and win the Big 10 and they are in.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:16 pm to BallsEleven
Like how no one takes a risk. Wisconsin is going to be in the playoffs. Just write it down now they are the best team in the Big Ten.
Book it.
Book it.
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