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re: Is anyone here excited about Ole Miss football this year?
Posted on 7/27/18 at 11:20 am to Doresrules
Posted on 7/27/18 at 11:20 am to Doresrules
Well said, Dores.
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Posted on 7/27/18 at 12:42 pm to sorantable
I am excited to see the season get started and I'm believing in a better-than-forecast season. I haven't posted a thing since the baseball season. I'm still replaying the Tennessee Tech doubleheader in my mind. We're still losing every game.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 1:28 pm to Blaeke
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I honestly had rather we rolled the dice with a complete reset.
We run the risk of blowing up and pulling a Southern Miss in this situation.
Imagine a no name coach sitting here (chad morris’ name was thrown around a lot on here) with no ties to the program. No recruiting ties. No connections to kids on the roster, AJ, Shea, DK, Greg Little, Lodge, and more all transfer. We would be looking down the barrel of a 3 win season. No momentum in recruiting, zero fan support. And 2 more lame duck year’s because we made a rush hire while on probation and got someone who is swinging above his weight class in a situation he can’t handle.
I don’t think Luke was anyone’s first choice but the names all of us wanted were not coming.
As far as “circling the wagons” Matt Luke has the shortest leash of any coach we’ve hired in the past 15 years. If he messes up this year he’s gone. We can make a hire without being on probabtion, and without having to fight 8 other job openings in the same conference.
This post was edited on 7/27/18 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 7/27/18 at 1:38 pm to sorantable
quote:And Ole Miss never will be with this shitty attitude. If you don't think Ole Miss can win a national championship with the right coach and people in charge, you're part of the problem
If you want to root for a National Championship contender, there are a few teams to choose from. Ole Miss isn't one of them.
This post was edited on 7/27/18 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 7/27/18 at 1:48 pm to Doresrules
If you win 7, 8 or 9 games a year as a member of the SEC West, then you are way above average where the national landscape is concerned. Come on, surely some of you can understand that.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 1:50 pm to Insideradvantage
quote:It doesn't win you championships
If you win 7, 8 or 9 games a year as a member of the SEC West, then you are way above average where the national landscape is concerned. Come on, surely some of you can understand that.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 1:55 pm to Henry Jones Jr
I think it's quite possible for OM to win a football national championship. Our chances are better in baseball, but I digress. Truth is, there are probably only 5 or 6 teams (Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and some combination of Florida State, USC and Oklahoma) that have a really good chance of winning it all the majority of the time. After that small bunch there are a ton of teams in a second tier. I think we are in that second tier chance wise. We'd have to sort of catch lightning in a bottle, if you will, but it's not impossible.
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If you want to root for a National Championship contender, there are a few teams to choose from. Ole Miss isn't one of them.
And Ole Miss never will be with this shitty attitude. If you don't think Ole Miss can win a national championship with the right coach and people in charge, you're part of the problem
This post was edited on 7/27/18 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 7/27/18 at 1:58 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Sure we can win natties. We’re pretty much on the same level as VA Tech in terms of money, influence, etc. We just can’t do it right now, considering the NCAA stuff.
Some of y’all are awfully impatient.
Some of y’all are awfully impatient.
This post was edited on 7/27/18 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 7/27/18 at 1:58 pm to Tornado Alley
TA pls
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:06 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Obviously, winning a championship is the ultimate goal. We all get this. However, it can't be the only goal. If you honestly think every decision you make in your program is driven by that one goal, then you will run the program straight into the ground with unrealistic expectations. Most any successful business has step-by-step plans that allow them to get to where they want to be... at the top. College football is a business. The entertainment business. But if you skip steps along the way, you'll just fall back to the bottom and certainly never reach the top. Is this what OM football is doing? I don't know. One thing is for sure, the approach under Freeze obviously had no staying power. The program has to try and hitch it's wagon to a plan that's sustainable and works the majority of the time with possibly a down year here and there. It does happen and the fanbase, boosters and administration don't freak and pull the fire alarm (see Gary Patterson TCU).
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If you win 7, 8 or 9 games a year as a member of the SEC West, then you are way above average where the national landscape is concerned. Come on, surely some of you can understand that.
It doesn't win you championships
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:17 pm to Insideradvantage
Kyle Whittingham went 7-5, 8-4, and 9-3 after replacing Urban Meyer who went 13-0 his final season at Utah.
Gary Patterson has had 4, 6, 11, and 12 win seasons since TCU joined the Big XII. He went 4-8, 12-1, 11-2, 6-7, and 10-3 from 2014 to 2017. Some of y’all would have been ready to can him after going 4-8 or 6-7
Mark Dantonio went to the playoff in 2015 and then 3-9 in 2016. He then went 10-3 in 2017.
shite, the HBC was mediocre for five seasons at Carolina (2005-2009) and then ran off 42 wins in four seasons (2010 - 2013).
Let’s not be so reactionary. Patience my dudes. Patience.
Gary Patterson has had 4, 6, 11, and 12 win seasons since TCU joined the Big XII. He went 4-8, 12-1, 11-2, 6-7, and 10-3 from 2014 to 2017. Some of y’all would have been ready to can him after going 4-8 or 6-7
Mark Dantonio went to the playoff in 2015 and then 3-9 in 2016. He then went 10-3 in 2017.
shite, the HBC was mediocre for five seasons at Carolina (2005-2009) and then ran off 42 wins in four seasons (2010 - 2013).
Let’s not be so reactionary. Patience my dudes. Patience.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:22 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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If you don't think Ole Miss can win a national championship with the right coach and people in charge, you're part of the problem
so you think chad morris is a national title contending coach? Because using your logic, the only coaches that would have been acceptable to your standards to hire this season are Nick Saban, Urban M, Dabo, and Jimbo Fisher. Which one of those would have been willing to come to oxford this year? Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:29 pm to Insideradvantage
7-9 wins a year is what MSU is doing. I'm sorry but I dont want to settle for that.
As far as the stupid comment I keep hearing about no good coach coming here, who told you that? It's just dumb to say. OM is a SEC program. If we pay, coaches will come. We ended up with a OL coach no one wanted as the OL coach. We spent millions to hire the OL coach who was already here.
Please answer that. Who told you guys coaches wouldn't come here?
As far as the stupid comment I keep hearing about no good coach coming here, who told you that? It's just dumb to say. OM is a SEC program. If we pay, coaches will come. We ended up with a OL coach no one wanted as the OL coach. We spent millions to hire the OL coach who was already here.
Please answer that. Who told you guys coaches wouldn't come here?
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:32 pm to Doresrules
7-9 wins per season sounds much better than the shite we have now.
Y’all act like everything is set in stone. Let’s get to 7-9 wins per year before we start shooting for 13. Sheesh.
Y’all act like everything is set in stone. Let’s get to 7-9 wins per year before we start shooting for 13. Sheesh.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:39 pm to Doresrules
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Please answer that. Who told you guys coaches wouldn't come here?
With 8 other jobs open in our conference and ole miss being the only one open with scholarships cut, recruiting visits cut, bowl ban in place, and open transfer available for upper classman the answer pretty much answers itself for logic fans but some of y’all are convinced there’s a massive conspiracy.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 4:07 pm to Doresrules
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7-9 wins a year is what MSU is doing. I'm sorry but I dont want to settle for that.
Lol. Settle? We haven't even done that.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 4:28 pm to sorantable
Consecutive 8+ win seasons in Ole Miss history in the post-Vaught era:
2014-2015
2008-2009
1989-1990
That’s it.
All this “settling for 8 wins” bullshite is just that: bullshite.
For what it’s worth, Cutcliffe ran off three straight 8+ win seasons at Duke recently.
2014-2015
2008-2009
1989-1990
That’s it.
All this “settling for 8 wins” bullshite is just that: bullshite.
For what it’s worth, Cutcliffe ran off three straight 8+ win seasons at Duke recently.
This post was edited on 7/27/18 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 7/27/18 at 6:49 pm to Tornado Alley
As usual, TA and Sorant come in hard and fast with the levity that they cultivate by not spending all their time on these boards.
This shite isn't the most important stuff in the world, y'all. Live with what we've got for now and look to better it once we're done with this NCAA shitshow.
This shite isn't the most important stuff in the world, y'all. Live with what we've got for now and look to better it once we're done with this NCAA shitshow.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 7:23 pm to Wanderin Reb
Sarcasm? They've got almost 52K posts between them. What am I missing?
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As usual, TA and Sorant come in hard and fast with the levity that they cultivate by not spending all their time on these boards.
This shite isn't the most important stuff in the world, y'all. Live with what we've got for now and look to better it once we're done with this NCAA shitshow.
Posted on 7/27/18 at 9:39 pm to sorantable
You know what I meant by settle. A coach like Matt Luke who ceiling is 9 wins.
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