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Art Briles should be the next HC at Ole Miss

Posted on 9/29/19 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Tunica
Member since May 2018
1789 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 3:00 pm
And let me tell you why.

No big name coach is taking this job. Norvell is the only hot commodity that would give us a look but he'll get better offers. Mike Leach is a pipe dream and he'd get exposed badly in the SEC West. People need to get that through their heads. Ole Miss is a shite job.

The obvious answer here is hiring Art Briles along with some equally slimy AD. Briles is pretty much a Texas version of Freeze from an offensive standpoint, minus the Jesus gimmick and the insatiable need to be in the limelight - which is a good thing. We have pieces on offense that if coached up will turn into extremely productive players. Briles would bring Kendal as OC/HC in waiting. We'd have a guy who can come in and bring stability, develop this talent, and pass it off to a 40 year old offensive prodigy in 4-5 years.

Although this will never happen, primarily because

1. The Ole Miss fanbase is one of the dumber collective units in all of America

2. The University/administration would be "too good" to hire Briles as they try to uphold some holier than thou approach focused more on the aesthetics of the grove, of Oxford, of the square, etc. The best coach Ole Miss has had in 50+ years, a guy who masqueraded everything that transpired behind religion as he stood on his soapbox, Bible held high, was not just sticking his dick in escorts, he was drinking heavily, sleeping with college students and married women. Ruining families in the process. Now that doesn't bother me at all, but after such a public embarrassment on a national stage, you have to take a different approach.

3. Ole Miss is a laughingstock. This isn't a desirable job. This is more or less a Texas Tech type of gig but people can't bring themselves to admit it. There is no mythical aura around Ole Miss Football. 1960 something was a long fricking time ago. Ohhhhhh but Bill Clark would take it.. Yeah, probably. He'd also ruin his career in doing so. He's not all that good of a coach, either.

4. Ole Miss doesn't want to win. Let's have the Grove landscaped to perfection. Let's have all the Oxford folktales scripted for Carter Blackburn to annunciate in crystal clear quality while we're getting sodomized 31-10 by Toledo in the 3rd quarter of an 11 o'clock game in 2023. The whore, coked out sorority girls wearing pearls with their tits out (*lights cigarette*). Bow ties. Chicken tenders. THE GROVE. No one at Ole Miss really wants to win.

So here you have it. Some guy on a message board not only giving you one of the few plausible scenarios to get the program back on track, but also having a contingent plan for the next 10-15 years if this all were to work.

With the majority of the fanbase ok with the thought of Freeze coming back, how is he any less tainted than Briles considering that sexual assault ordeal has turned out to be a sham? What he did at Baylor is nothing short of miraculous. They won 35 games in the 12 years prior to him getting there in 2008 and he concluded his tenure by going 11-2, 11-2, 10-3. Art Briles is as absolutely as good as Ole Miss could do at the moment.
This post was edited on 9/29/19 at 3:02 pm
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6232 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 3:29 pm to
Briles has the worst baggage of any current or former HC in the country. Not only no, but hell no. Makes our scandal look like Sunday school.

Covering up rape isn’t something you ignore. Winning is important but every school would correctly use that against us in recruiting. I can think of about 10-20 other coaches I would go for before I even thought about hiring that clown.
Posted by Tunica
Member since May 2018
1789 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 3:44 pm to
He didn’t cover up rape. James Franklin did, however, and was hired by a school that had just started to recover from the biggest scandal in college football history. A couple of 11 win seasons later and all is forgotten.

ETA: Proceed with naming 10-20 coaches you’d choose over Briles that would actually take the job. You can’t.
This post was edited on 9/29/19 at 3:50 pm
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19451 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 5:37 pm to
Not sure if serious
Posted by Insideradvantage
Member since Oct 2014
6867 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 6:08 pm to
Haha, I would hope not.
Posted by GatorReb
Dallas GA
Member since Feb 2009
9280 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 6:42 pm to
1) honestly every team can say that about their fan base. Fan basses are too emotionally attached to the situation to see things clearly.

2) I would say that just about every school in the country views themselves as “too good” to hire Briles.

3) I don’t think we are a laughingstock. But we aren’t some sleeping giant that someone is going to awaken. We are a mid to bottom tier P5 conference team. Every conference has those teams. I would say OM, MSU, Arky, UK, UK are all the same sort of team. A good year here or there maybe a little sustained success. But none of us are going to have the staying potential of the LSU, Bama, UGA, Auburn, UFs of the conference.

4) saying we don’t want to win is a stupid statement. Of course they/we want to win. But see poking three. It isn’t going to happen regularly and consistently. For example this year. Everyone knew we weren’t going to be worth a damn. So instead of being doom and gloom and hating life enjoy the other aspects of the season.

You seems overly angry on a topic that doesn’t do any good to get overly angry over.
Posted by Tunica
Member since May 2018
1789 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 7:05 pm to
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I don’t think we are a laughingstock
If the Freeze debacle didn't do it, if the 6 month national coaching search only to hire Matt Luke didn't do it, if Ross Bjork standing with a replica WWF title belt draped over his shoulder while announicing "Let me get a hell yeah!" before getting trounced 62-3 by Bama didn't do it, if Jeff Vitter didn't do it, if the aluminum fishbowl containing 21,000 people before the second half starts doesn't do it, if the party decks didn't do it..

What will constitute as a laughingstock, in your opinion?
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A good year here or there maybe a little sustained success. But none of us are going to have the staying potential of the LSU, Bama, UGA, Auburn, UFs of the conference.

I want to win 6-8 games a year and really don't expect anything more
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You seems overly angry
I'm more apathetic than anything.
Posted by Insideradvantage
Member since Oct 2014
6867 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 7:27 pm to
Let me boil this down just as simple as I can. All that shite you listed is/should be embarrassing. However, the plain truth is this, the overwhelmingly vast majority of casual fans know nothing of that stuff or have forgotten it. Then you can bet your arse everybody outside of direct OM fans don't care about it. I follow college football way closer than most and I can't tell you any of the specifics about the Briles story. The OM job can pay a bundle by comparison. We don't have to have an all-star coach. The town is nice. The campus is nice. The school is nice. It's D1. There are good coaches out there. It can be done. We just have to do it. We may already have who we need. What we really might need most is a little patience.

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I don’t think we are a laughingstock
If the Freeze debacle didn't do it, if the 6 month national coaching search only to hire Matt Luke didn't do it, if Ross Bjork standing with a replica WWF title belt draped over his shoulder while announicing "Let me get a hell yeah!" before getting trounced 62-3 by Bama didn't do it, if Jeff Vitter didn't do it, if the aluminum fishbowl containing 21,000 people before the second half starts doesn't do it, if the party decks didn't do it..

What will constitute as a laughingstock, in your opinion?
quote:
A good year here or there maybe a little sustained success. But none of us are going to have the staying potential of the LSU, Bama, UGA, Auburn, UFs of the conference.
I want to win 6-8 games a year and really don't expect anything more
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You seems overly angry
I'm more apathetic than anything.
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
3620 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 8:31 pm to
I’m with Tunica partly and I congratulate him on his “vision”, but good grief the national media would never let up if we hired him, and I don’t remember the specifics either, but I know it sounded career killing..just hire the UAB guy and call it a day
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13485 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 8:56 pm to
If we thought the NCAA was out to get freeze, wait until we hire Art Briles. Jeez
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6232 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:28 am to
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Proceed with naming 10-20 coaches you’d choose over Briles that would actually take the job. You can’t.


Without even leaving LA, AL, TN we could go after LSU’s OC Steve Ensminger or Willie Fritz from Tulane. Or Dave Aranda. Or mike Norvell from Memphis if his background isn’t as bad as people think (probably better than Briles situation). Bill Clark from UAB. That’s without even really diving in man. That’s 3 states. I could keep going but you don’t really care.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18053 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:55 am to
Why do people think that no big time coach would take $4-5 million to coach at an SEC west school? I stopped reading at that idiotic conclusion.
Posted by Richard_Cranium
TEXAS
Member since Sep 2018
269 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:09 am to
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The whore, coked out sorority girls wearing pearls with their tits out (*lights cigarette*). Bow ties. Chicken tenders. THE GROVE. No one at Ole Miss really wants to win.


Me thinky you didn't get laid much in college, if at all. You have some serious built up anger and should seek professional help.

If the Bama loss sparked this tirade seriously wondering about your intelligence level and expectations.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 9:20 am
Posted by Tunica
Member since May 2018
1789 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:56 am to
Nothing says I didn't get laid in college quite like the guy who tells people on a message board that they didn't get laid in college.

The Art Briles part was, of course, a bit satirical although it would provide immediate results and give us a coach in waiting with Kendal. Everything else in the initial post couldn't be anymore spot on.
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we could go after LSU’s OC Steve Ensminger or Willie Fritz from Tulane
Ensminger is 62 years old and has never been a HC in his life. Fritz is 60 years old and his career arc consisted of 13 years at Central Missouri, a trio of Sam Houston State/GA Southern/Tulane since 2010. Yeah, this is the guy who'll come in and save the program. Norvell has an excellent shot at going 12-0 this season and will get bigger and better offers. Bill Clark will probably take the job after UAB wraps their 2019 campaign up at 6-6.
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Why do people think that no big time coach would take $4-5 million to coach at an SEC west school? I stopped reading at that idiotic conclusion.
They certainly would. Just not at Ole Miss
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If the Bama loss sparked this tirade seriously wondering about your intelligence level and expectations.
Tirade? It's pretty much me being, well, for lack of better words -- right.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 12:11 pm
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6232 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 12:43 pm to
All are still better candidates than Briles. PS Briles is 63
Posted by Tunica
Member since May 2018
1789 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 12:55 pm to
PS, Briles finished ranked in the top 12 with 10+ wins in 4 of his final 5 seasons.. at Baylor. I think people don't realize how incredibly bad that program was until he was there. On par with late 90s/early 2000s Vanderbilt bad. Briles has a son in his 30s that will eventually be a Power 5 HC and could easily just fall into our lap. I'm still waiting for the list of these "big names" that would jump at the opportunity to take the Ole Miss job. So far we have the stellar catalog of:

Steve Ensminger
Willie Fritz
Bill Clark
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 12:57 pm
Posted by RebelRye
Metairie, LA
Member since Nov 2018
1091 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:08 pm to
I never understood why people keep saying that we can't get a big name coach. There are big coaches that would kill to get a shot at coaching in the SEC and this is the team that they could prove they deserve to be there. If you can't make something out of ole miss then you don't deserve to be a top notch coach in college football.
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6232 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:39 pm to
If ole miss is the dumpster fire you claim it is, why would Briles come here? Shouldn’t “better” programs be lining up to hire him?
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10565 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:53 pm to
Craig Bole ND State
Luke Fickell Cincy
Mark Helfrich Da Bears
Jim Leavitt FSU
Dino Babers Syracuse
Matt Ruhle Baylor (oops too late)
Josh Heuppel UCF
Mike Norvell Memphis
Seth Littrell North Texas
Matt Cambbell Iowa State
Bill Clark UAB
Butch Davis FIU
Lane Kiffen FAU
Sonny Dykes SMU
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6232 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:56 pm to
Tim Deruyter - DC at Cal
Jay Bateman - DC at North Carolina
Chip Long - OC at ND and former OC at Memphis

ETA: but no one on your list or mine will come to Ole Miss for $4-$5M a year
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 1:58 pm
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