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re: Any reason McGriff hasn’t been fired yet?
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:55 am to olemissfan26
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:55 am to olemissfan26
We should never have fired Freeze.
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:47 pm to Landmass
Defense has gotten better.......
1. 125th in total defense
2. 114th in rushing defense
3. 124th in passing yards allowed
Texas A&M- 502 total yards
South Carolina- 510 total yards
Auburn- 484 total yards
Arkansas- 477 total yards
Just keep working on that "eye discipline"
1. 125th in total defense
2. 114th in rushing defense
3. 124th in passing yards allowed
Texas A&M- 502 total yards
South Carolina- 510 total yards
Auburn- 484 total yards
Arkansas- 477 total yards
Just keep working on that "eye discipline"
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:26 pm to olemissfan26
Luke will be our coach next year. His coordinators are both on the table. I speculated on who it’ll be simply based on production although anyone with eyeballs sees that’s it’s not all his or the defense’s fault. They all need to go but I guess we get one more year of Bjork and Luke
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:34 pm to JeremiahRatliff12
To exacerbate those glaring problems they have more plays run on them than any other team in the conference by a ridiculous number. A whole additional game’s worth of snaps for an injury riddled, poorly coached, undisciplined mess of a roster. Our offense is the literal worst type to pair with our crap defense.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:16 pm to DMagic
Our offense is so superficial it hurts. We fill up the stat sheet every week but the actual results are garbage against halfway competent teams.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:04 pm to UMRealist
Now don't get me wrong, I do believe that our defensive roster not great by any means. That being said, look at what Wommmack was working with. Not much depth at all, especially on the DL. Senquez, Hilton, and Robert were the only real stand put players that we had back then. Elston and Prewitt were not any better than Hartsfield and Dasher. Undersized and slow LBs, and we had one of the best defenses' in the country.
Wommack's guys bought in, played hard, were in the right position, and in the right play calls. I believe our team now is bought in. You can see that from the effort that they play with. Now we just need a coach to put them in the right positions and make the correct play calls.
Wommack's guys bought in, played hard, were in the right position, and in the right play calls. I believe our team now is bought in. You can see that from the effort that they play with. Now we just need a coach to put them in the right positions and make the correct play calls.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:57 pm to JeremiahRatliff12
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Elston and Prewitt
Those guys played with a serious chip on their shoulder though. That was one of the harder hitting defenses I’ve seen. Mike Hilton would tackle you in the dick and drive you back 5 yards. Unfortunately they let a couple of games get by them. I don’t see anyone on our defense who plays with the heart many of those guys played with.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:59 pm to JeremiahRatliff12
All that I can think of with Wommack was his inability to adapt to 2015 Arkansas's offense. Sitting the DB's 10-15 yards off the WR or TE, resulting in a 8+ yard gain every play.
That 2014 defense was good in spite of Wommack, not because of him. He coached like he was in his retirement years already in 2015 and 2016. With that said, he is/was light years better than McGriff. Unfortunately, Wommack didn't like recruiting and McGriff apparently feels like it's below him now that he's a DC.
McCready made a good point on a previous podcast. In the SEC West, a coaching staff member needs to be either a) a great coach or b) a great recruiter or c) both. Ole Miss has too many high paid charity cases that are neither (a), (b), or (c). Complete deadweight. Don't be surprised if Cutcliffe 2.0 doesn't make the necessary staff changes. Ole Miss's football staff has a bad case of the dead sea effect. The better elements of the staff leave for other opportunities leaving the deadweight that no one wants to stay here indefinitely.
The lack of momentum behind the program (contrary to Vitter's statement) makes Ole Miss a tough sell. High school kids are dumb and believe that they're better than every other kid that plays their position. They would much rather go to Bama thinking they'll "be the man", pad Bama's depth chart, ride the pine for four years and get a few championship rings, than go to Ole Miss for "immediate playing time".
That 2014 defense was good in spite of Wommack, not because of him. He coached like he was in his retirement years already in 2015 and 2016. With that said, he is/was light years better than McGriff. Unfortunately, Wommack didn't like recruiting and McGriff apparently feels like it's below him now that he's a DC.
McCready made a good point on a previous podcast. In the SEC West, a coaching staff member needs to be either a) a great coach or b) a great recruiter or c) both. Ole Miss has too many high paid charity cases that are neither (a), (b), or (c). Complete deadweight. Don't be surprised if Cutcliffe 2.0 doesn't make the necessary staff changes. Ole Miss's football staff has a bad case of the dead sea effect. The better elements of the staff leave for other opportunities leaving the deadweight that no one wants to stay here indefinitely.
The lack of momentum behind the program (contrary to Vitter's statement) makes Ole Miss a tough sell. High school kids are dumb and believe that they're better than every other kid that plays their position. They would much rather go to Bama thinking they'll "be the man", pad Bama's depth chart, ride the pine for four years and get a few championship rings, than go to Ole Miss for "immediate playing time".
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:00 am to Blaeke
Wommack was good but only in short spurts. His tenure at Arkansas was the same way. He was good initially, and then kind of fell off once teams figured out how to read his schemes.
Luke is awful. He is an awful HC. I doubt that he has the balls to even get in either coordinator's face, which is what they need. I know that Freeze would have had the balls to put their jobs on the line for performance and they may have turned it around. I know that he only got Longo to add aspects of Longo's air raid offense to Freeze's own offense.
We are not going to magically get better under this staff. It was doomed from the get-go. Luke was a huge mistake.
Luke is awful. He is an awful HC. I doubt that he has the balls to even get in either coordinator's face, which is what they need. I know that Freeze would have had the balls to put their jobs on the line for performance and they may have turned it around. I know that he only got Longo to add aspects of Longo's air raid offense to Freeze's own offense.
We are not going to magically get better under this staff. It was doomed from the get-go. Luke was a huge mistake.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:38 am to Landmass
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Wommack was good but only in short spurts. His tenure at Arkansas was the same way. He was good initially, and then kind of fell off once teams figured out how to read his schemes.
Luke is awful. He is an awful HC. I doubt that he has the balls to even get in either coordinator's face, which is what they need. I know that Freeze would have had the balls to put their jobs on the line for performance and they may have turned it around. I know that he only got Longo to add aspects of Longo's air raid offense to Freeze's own offense.
We are not going to magically get better under this staff. It was doomed from the get-go. Luke was a huge mistake.
EXACTLY!!!!
We have to fire Luke! Anyone holding any hope to him please explain why.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 2:07 am to WithaRebelYell
I'll play devils advocate here and I am not wanting to keep Luke but there is a solid argument to be made on is behalf. The argument is this; he was forced to mantain both OC and DC. Had I been in his shoes at the end of last year I would have demanded a change for both and if I was denied I damn sure would have let that "leak" out that they were on the hot seat and they weren't my first choices! Now they better crap or get off the pot. Alas Luke did not do that and that good argumnet now becomes the argument against him! We don't know if what was even discussed but upon Lukes taking the job he could have even negotiated his own contract for less money if he could have gotten his OC and DC, he didn't do that so his contract is about his love of Ole Miss, just like a prostitute loves a John! Harsh but true his love of Ole Miss is tied to a huge buy out! If not prove it and resign!
That's my two cents.
PilotReb
That's my two cents.
PilotReb
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 2:11 am
Posted on 11/14/18 at 4:42 pm to WithaRebelYell
quote:FWIW I keep seeing people post things like this all over the internet, but I haven't seen a single person actually have these feelings towards Luke.
Anyone holding any hope to him please explain why.
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 4:46 pm
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