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re: why would God need the "glory?"
Posted on 2/1/16 at 11:47 am to CockInYourEar
Posted on 2/1/16 at 11:47 am to CockInYourEar
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Unlimited omnipotence would mean that the Being could see all and know all.
Isn't ALL omnipotence "unlimited"? What would limited omnipotence mean?
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Posted on 2/1/16 at 11:50 am to td01241
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Religion is however the only aspect of life people throw science and logic completely out the window and just believe fantasy stories that sound like they should be told to children as morality tales.
Not even close. People also do that in politics, love, sports affiliations, etc. I would go so far as to speculate that people are illogical in more situations than they are logical.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 11:52 am to Nuts4LSU
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politics
No. People support politicians for certain reasons. They may be stupid, but not illogical
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love
This is a feeling inside of you. You either have it for someone or you don't. Like above, when you are in love you may do stupid things, but not illogical things like believing in imaginary things you have never seen or witnessed.
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sports affiliations
This one doesn't even make sense in relation to the thread. You like a sports team for whatever reason you want. Logic doesn't come into play.
It's literally the same thing as believing in Santa Claus.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 2:18 pm to samson'sseed
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Why do players point to the sky when they give all the glory to God? Why do they think God lives in the sky in that direction? A soccer player playing on the other side of the world who points to the sky would be pointing in the opposite direction. It's just astonishing to me how easily people are brainwashed.
Annnnnnnnnnnnnndddddddddddddddddddddddddd I'm out
Posted on 2/1/16 at 4:44 pm to td01241
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No. People support politicians for certain reasons. They may be stupid, but not illogical
Of course they're illogical. People support candidates all the time whose policies directly contradict their own interests just because a preacher or Fox News or a 30-second commercial told them to or because the musical score of a campaign commercial made them feel all warm and patriotic, totally oblivious to evidence that is readily available and contradicts their voting choice.
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when you are in love you may do stupid things, but not illogical things like believing in imaginary things you have never seen or witnessed.
If you have caught your wife cheating multiple times and every time she promises it'll never happen again and you believe her and take her back, aren't you believing in a fantasy just as illogical and imaginary as religion?
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sports affiliations
This one doesn't even make sense in relation to the thread. You like a sports team for whatever reason you want. Logic doesn't come into play.
I guess I should have been a little clearer on this one. I meant that people are often illogical or irrational about their team, such as blindly and optimistically expecting them to fare better than any rational outside observer would expect them to, or the opposite type who irrationally or illogically expect them to fare worse than any rational observer would expect them to.
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It's literally the same thing as believing in Santa Claus.
Yes, and so is trusting pure laissez-faire economics or Marxist communism, or thinking your wife will somehow remain faithful this time if you just give her one more chance, or believing that Ole Miss will finally get to the SEC championship game next year.
It happens in lots of aspects of life, not just religion.
This post was edited on 2/1/16 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 2/1/16 at 4:49 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Why do players point to the sky when they give all the glory to God? Why do they think God lives in the sky in that direction? A soccer player playing on the other side of the world who points to the sky would be pointing in the opposite direction. It's just astonishing to me how easily people are brainwashed.
It is like connecting your heart to love. Your physical heart has nothing to do with love (well it beats faster when you see your sweetheart, but not because love is in your heart). Sky connected to heaven is kinda like that.
But anyways, God is there, and here, and everywhere. And He really really hopes you decide you want to spend always with Him =)
Posted on 2/1/16 at 4:52 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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Your physical heart has nothing to do with love
There are poorly designed studies which actually show an increased risk of CHF in patients who had underwent divorce vs patients whom were happily married. So I think the love of a woman actually is very much connected to heart health.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 5:01 pm to Gradual_Stroke
Love of a woman? Or betrayal of a bitch?
I say the latter
I say the latter
Posted on 2/1/16 at 5:04 pm to samson'sseed
quote:Well, no. They believe in a personal God who does in fact, give a shite.
I mean, if you believe a Supreme Being created and controls the entire universe, than this God would obviously consider a mere football game played by his naked apes to be very insignificant.
You're asking why people who believe in a loving God don't abide by your specific atheistic conception of "God". Lol.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 5:07 pm to genro
You missed the part where he says that if you believe in God you are not capable of being LOGICAL
Posted on 2/1/16 at 5:12 pm to Old Sarge
Imagine if you created a world of apes and then they created this thing called logic and used it to say you didn't exist.
You'd be like, frick you, give me some glory!
You'd be like, frick you, give me some glory!
Posted on 2/1/16 at 5:13 pm to genro
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world of apes
also known as a "planet of the"
Posted on 2/1/16 at 5:15 pm to genro
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You'd be like, frick you, give me some glory!
Not at all. Cosmic horror has it right. The universe is so vast, so unsympathetic, that we can't comprehend how insignificant we are. We are a speck of dust in an ocean.
The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear. And the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown.
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents.
It is only the inferior thinker who hastens to explain the singular and the complex by the primitive shortcut of supernaturalism.
- HP Lovecraft
Pouring myself another whiskey
This post was edited on 2/1/16 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 2/1/16 at 5:25 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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are a speck of dust in an ocean
Not to your Creator, He knows the number of hairs on your head.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 5:42 pm to samson'sseed
Everyone's imaginary friend doesn't give two shits about an organized game on a little speck of grass
Posted on 2/1/16 at 6:20 pm to samson'sseed
He's got an ego as big as all creation.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 6:33 pm to Old Sarge
Wish I could have that kind of faith. I just don't believe in God anymore.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 6:36 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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I just don't believe in God anymore.
The way I see it, the existence of God is so utterly illogical, so incredibly irrational ... that it must be true.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 9:27 pm to Mattwells90
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Mattwells90
Well said.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 9:36 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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I just don't believe in God anymore.
And you know what? That's fine. Belief in a deity is a personal thing at the end of the day.
I believe in God, and that's also fine.
I honestly don't understand why some folks waste so much time arguing till they're blue in the face over the existence of God. It's a pointless exercise.
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