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re: Why are so many Southerners so stuck in their ways?

Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:41 pm to
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:41 pm to
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Most are 70+


Honestly it appears to me, at least in my experience, that my parents generation is the more racist and not my grandparent's generation which has always seemed odd to me.
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:42 pm to
Memphis is southern.

quote:

The Mississippi Delta begins in the lobby of the Peabody Hotel in Memphis and ends on Catfish Row in Vicksburg” according to David Cohn1


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Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:44 pm to
Memphis is southern, you twit.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:49 pm to
Racism is just as prevalent anywhere in the country. I would say it may seem be more overt in the South because of the language that is socially accepted. From what I've seen the North is more segregated.

The South doesn't have skewed religious views. They are generally middle class, rural working people. These types have a tendency to be more religious. The rural Americans in the midwest are no different. There is nothing wrong or backwards about being religious..it isn't a negative thing.

Obesity is a problem in a few Southern States. Mostly just due to the culture of the food we eat down here. But damn is that shite good!
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:56 pm to
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Southerners are very cliquish and seek approval of others, and don't value individuality or expression. This is a generalization and certainly isn't indicative of all Southerners.

I hated the cliquish, conformist behavior though. People can't be different because they have to find approval for family or occupational reasons. They look alike, dress alike and drive the same vehicles and ridicule anyone who's different.


This is 100% true. Especially in the delta...I remember in high school how cliquish we were...all girls wore the same clothes and drove an altima. All guys wore columbia button downs, the same hats worn the same way, jeans, work boots, and drove a z71 with pipes, a Montezuma triangle box, 5% window tint, and a go light on top, 4 foot CB radio antennae, and a cotton tag
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:57 pm to
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Racism is just as prevalent anywhere in the country. I would say it may seem be more overt in the South because of the language that is socially accepted. From what I've seen the North is more segregated.


That's been my experience. They think they are more forward thinking but in my time in the nawth they all keep to themselves. I feel that the south is more segregated but I don't have data to back that up. Just my experience.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:58 pm to
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I know a lot of people from the midwest, and they seem to be the most....level.


I have cousins from Nebraska and I'll agree with this. They are almost too fricking boring
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:05 am to
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the same hats worn the same way, jeans, work boots, and drove a z71 with pipes, a Montezuma triangle box, 5% window tint, and a go light on top, 4 foot CB radio antennae, and a cotton tag


That's like a foreign language to me...

My generation rebelled against traditional images, yet the people I went to HS with turned out exactly the same way. They still live in the same area, still hang out on weekends like they were in HS, 30 years later. Most are college grads, professional and turned out just like their parents.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:08 am to
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Especially in the delta...I remember in high school how cliquish we were...all girls wore the same clothes and drove an Altima


Bitches gonna bitch
Posted by JB14
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:11 am to
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What is it that has shaped the south to become so much different than the rest of the country?


Originally? A shared frontier ethos and the Proto-Dorian bond. See W.J. Cash, "Mind of the South."
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:14 am to
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The South will, at the end of this century, be the economic and cultural center of the country. That seems inevitable. We're slowly but surely dropping social conservatism but holding firm regarding fiscal conservatism. That is the ideal mix for a region that has happy and healthy people.


Is fiscal conservatism your only reason for believing this? Because the rest of the country is already subsidizing the South, we have the poorest states and the least amount of tax revenue.
Posted by BrerTiger
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:15 am to
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Don't fall for the liberal "whites are southern racist rednecks" bit. They can be just as hateful in Cali and New York.


Just listen to Randy Newman's song "Rednecks".

40 years later, that song is still spot on.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260347 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:15 am to
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Originally? A shared frontier ethos and the Proto-Dorian bond. See W.J. Cash, "Mind of the South."


It's a bit outdated.
Posted by JB14
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:23 am to
Well, that would make sense given an original publication date in the early 40's.

Obviously Cash can't have anticipated the changes from 1940-2014, but I'd be hard-pressed to find a book that better answer's OP's question re the reason the South, from its inception, was viewed as "different."
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260347 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:30 am to
The South is so much different than it was 70 years ago. I agree it probably helped frame the cultural institutions but the South has become so much more class conscious, not just divided by race.

In contrast, the Midwest used to celebrate it's working class where the South generally shite on theirs. Most of us came from poor working class Southern stock though.

I'd say class is a greater dividing line today than race
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:38 am to
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You know some damn ole yankees who hate black people more than southerners?


I know of a few damn ole yankee cities that have fewer minorities than I know on a first name basis.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:54 am to
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I have a hard time at viewing Memphis as southern.


Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:19 am to
Yankee bastard
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:25 am to
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Yankee bastard


Go eat at Gus's fried chicken and no one will ever confuse Memphis with not being southern.

Plus where I grew up is now close enough to Ole Miss to be considered an instate student. That has to count for something.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:38 am to
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Plus where I grew up is now close enough to Ole Miss to be considered an instate student.


...I'm sorry?
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