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Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:52 pm to mattloc
So your evidence is the mathematical derivation of ONE person?
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:54 pm to Roger Klarvin
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So your evidence is the mathematical derivation of ONE person
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Mersini-Houghton says the mathematics are conclusive.
Math ...it dosent lie
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:55 pm to mattloc
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The staggeringly beautiful experimental observations and mind-bending new theories are all described accessibly in A Universe from Nothing, and they suggest that not only can something arise from nothing, something will always arise from nothing.
IF, IF the mathematical principles which such things are based on are both accurate and can be correlated to a time when there was nothing.
It all hinges on whether or not the premise itself is valid, which is the hypothesis. What you're doing is like trying to say string theory is considered fact because scientists claim certain things to be so IF in fact string theory were an accurate model.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:56 pm to mattloc
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Math ...it dosent lie
Posted on 10/2/14 at 6:02 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I feel like this would make a good advertising campaign for cheap titty bars.
I call dibs
Posted on 10/2/14 at 6:14 pm to TbirdSpur2010
What the heck did you do to yourself T-bird, that avi and sig 
Posted on 10/2/14 at 6:17 pm to KSGamecock
I lost a Royals/Cards bet
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:00 pm to mattloc
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get it, you are one of the A Universe from Nothing crowd..... but I am ignorant....
You get nothing because you are a simpleton. I never said I believe in a universe from nothing. I said I believe in searching for answers beyond what is found in a fairy tale book.
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was simply pointing out that "faith" in consensus is required by even those that claim to be "scientists"
Tell you what I am going to help you out with some definitions using the dictionary so you don't make such claims out in the real world and get laughed at.
Faith - belief that is not based on proof.
Scientific method - a method of research in which a problem is identified, relevant data are gathered, a hypothesis is formulated from these data, and the hypothesis is empirically tested and retested.
You're welcome
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:21 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
love how these guys resort to name calling when they cant formulate an argument....I certainly believe in science, but unlike yourself,I actually have the ability to think for myself. Therefore I do not take all of these theories of consensus at face value.....you have told me what you don't believe ..you don't believe in creationism,you don't believe in Lawrence Krauss's theory on the origin of the universe..why don't you tell us what you do believe and then we'll tear apart and determine whether it is supported by scientific proof
sorry for the spelling I'm on a cell phone
sorry for the spelling I'm on a cell phone
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:26 pm to mattloc
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but unlike yourself,I actually have the ability to think for myself.
Well that's certainly not true no matter how many times you repeat that joke.
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why don't you tell us what you do believe
The continued search for the truth. And then when I find that "truth" will continue to test and retest and always keep an open mind. Which is the opposite of faith.
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sorry for the spelling I'm on a cell phone
I am not one to try to destroy someones argument by pointing out spelling mistakes and grammar issues. That's an amateur internet debate ploy.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:29 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
would you please answer the question ....what do you believe about the origin of the universe and how is it supported by scientific proof....or to put it another way .....what truth do you believe in...if any ....and how is it supported by scientific proof
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:41 pm to mattloc
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what do you believe about the origin of the universe
We haven't found the answer yet. We are still searching. I am sorry my answer doesn't work into whatever straw man argument you are attempting to set up. Maybe go rewatch God's Not Dead and pretend that movie made any logical sense. Then go to church and discuss it with other simpletons if it makes you feel more intelligent.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:43 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
Hatin' arse
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:44 pm to TbirdSpur2010
So glad to see this thread blew up.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:45 pm to KSGamecock
It got off to a slow start but it perked up right nice
Posted on 10/2/14 at 8:20 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
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simpleton
I went to a top 25 law school on a scholarship...I suppose I must be slipping..if your assessment has any merit
Posted on 10/2/14 at 8:55 pm to mattloc
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I went to a top 25 law school on a scholarship...I suppose I must be slipping..if your assessment has any merit
GI/GO
Posted on 10/2/14 at 8:58 pm to Roger Klarvin
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No, but miracles by definition are things which happen contrary to what we would expect to happen.
As a Christian, I expect miracles. They are there, but you have to be looking for them.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 9:06 pm to kywildcatfanone
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They are there, but you have to be looking for them.
It's not so much that you have to look for "miracles", its that you have to overlook the other 90% of Christians who aren't as lucky when dieing or suffering under the same circumstances as the claimed miracle. Then just saying something really lame like, well I guess that was his plan.
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