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re: Which Religion is the right Religion and why?
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:49 pm to mattloc
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:49 pm to mattloc
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It all must be very disquieting to those who were certain in the validity of the Big Bang assumptions.
It has always been taught as a theory. People use to not know that there were universes outside of our own. Hell people at one time didn't know there was a western hemisphere. At one time it was basically a crime to go against the Roman Catholic Church that we lived in a heliocentric universe. I am sure every time some theory is corrected by science it creates some sort of small man's triumph for the petty man. But that is what science is, the search for knowledge. Instead of just idiotically accepting a theory that from a thousand years ago through manufactured and restructured stories placed into a book as opium for the masses. When you wrote the above paragraph I am sure you felt like you were getting in some sort of clever zinger but instead you just proved the extent of your ignorance.
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:16 pm to BrocraticMethod
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/mind: blown
Time is a flat circle
I think it's premature to say there is a definite end and a definite beginning. Far too early.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:18 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
I get it, you are one of the A Universe from Nothing crowd..... but I am ignorant.... I was simply pointing out that "faith" in consensus is required by even those that claim to be "scientists" ....sorry that went over your head..... Glad you thought it was clever though
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:20 pm to AirDawg
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Be honest with yourself and everyone here. You could see a miracle right now on a video and you wouldn't believe it.
Sorry, but I disagree. I like to think I'd be intellectually honest enough to acknowledge someone spontaneously re-growing a limb after praying for it as a miraculous event.
Besides, I don't have any particular reason to not want there to be some sort of creator. It would be pretty comforting to know that there was a greater purpose to all of this so I really don't believe I'd have a problem with acknowledging a higher power's existence if I saw compelling evidence for it.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:23 pm to Roger Klarvin
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a higher power's existence if I saw compelling evidence for it.
You don't see evidence of a higher power in the world?
I'm most saddened by hearing this, look at a sunset.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:24 pm to Sleeping Tiger
I'm a Christian, but a sunset isn't evidence of a higher power.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:25 pm to mattloc
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It all must be very disquieting to those who were certain in the validity of the Big Bang assumptions.
I've never heard any reputable physicist claim the big bang as a certainty. It has always been taught as a hypothesis. Our current levels of technology only allow for so much evidence to be gathered about the origins of the universe, and such an event wouldn't leave near the physical evidence as something like evolution has.
However, your claims of the hypothesis being disproven or rendered impossible are, best, inflated and at worst an outright lie depending on the depth with which you are willing to go down that rabbit hole.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:26 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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I'm a Christian, but a sunset isn't evidence of a higher power.
He's mocking someone, can't remember who, but a Creationist said that.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:27 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Also like 90% of preachers ever 
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:27 pm to Roger Klarvin
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However, your claims of the hypothesis being disproven or rendered impossible are, best, inflated and at worst an outright lie depending on the depth with which you are willing to go down that rabbit hole.
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Recent mathematical computations seem to eliminate that theory as a viable possibility
Is my statement incorrect?
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:29 pm to Roger Klarvin
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It has always been taught as a hypothesis.
The staggeringly beautiful experimental observations and mind-bending new theories are all described accessibly in A Universe from Nothing, and they suggest that not only can something arise from nothing, something will always arise from nothing.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:29 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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You don't see evidence of a higher power in the world?
Once you've pulled a parasitic worm out of the scrotum of a starving child in a third world country, you realize that a creator who made all the beautiful things in this world also had to have made that. When talking about evidence in the world around us for God, people always conveniently leave out all the horrific things which far outweigh the beautiful ones in most parts of the world.
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:31 pm to Roger Klarvin
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the horrific things which far outweigh the beautiful ones in most parts of the world
This is subjective.
If you're looking for horror, you'll find it aplenty. If you're looking for beauty, you'll find that in unlikely places too.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:31 pm to mattloc
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Is my statement incorrect?
Yes
I'll now await what I'm sure will be a thrilling link.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:36 pm to Roger Klarvin
Rethinking the Origins of the Universe ....UNC chapel hill
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Many physicists and astronomers believe that our universe originated from a singularity that began expanding with the Big Bang. However, if singularities do not exist, then physicists have to rethink their ideas of the Big Bang and whether it ever happened.
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:38 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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This is subjective.
Agreed, and I'll admit to having become jaded over the last few years. Seeing all the awful things people do to themselves, to each other and to the world around them can make it tough sometimes to see subtle goodness.
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If you're looking for beauty, you'll find that in unlikely places too.
I feel like this would make a good advertising campaign for cheap titty bars.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:40 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Call me when prayer causes someone to regroup a limb.
So you cut yourself and it heals, no? Does it say somewhere that God make man perfect, and his body perfect?
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:40 pm to KSGamecock
Praise Ahura Mazda and frick Ahriman.
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:44 pm to mattloc
This thread again.
Since it is virtually impossible for anyone with religious belief to objectively look at the notion of religion, their various histories, and actual scientific observations, using things like reason don't work.
Regardless of whether you have any good arguments for there being a creator of the universe, there isn't any factual evidence you can provide to distinguish which religious figure throughout history deserves to be worshipped. You have to rely on faith and circular reasoning. "I believe in X because my religion teaches me that X is the one true God."
If you can't see how ridiculous this line of thinking is, then you are one of them. Luckily the number of these people is dwindling.
Since it is virtually impossible for anyone with religious belief to objectively look at the notion of religion, their various histories, and actual scientific observations, using things like reason don't work.
Regardless of whether you have any good arguments for there being a creator of the universe, there isn't any factual evidence you can provide to distinguish which religious figure throughout history deserves to be worshipped. You have to rely on faith and circular reasoning. "I believe in X because my religion teaches me that X is the one true God."
If you can't see how ridiculous this line of thinking is, then you are one of them. Luckily the number of these people is dwindling.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:50 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Does it say somewhere that God make man perfect, and his body perfect?
No, but miracles by definition are things which happen contrary to what we would expect to happen.
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