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re: Where Graduates Move After College - WSJ

Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by JohnnyRebel
Colorado
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:17 pm to
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also surprised to see Miami so strong and JAX so weak for UF


Surprised me too, but they’re probably counting the Miami metro area as everything from Homestead up to Jupiter, and there are millions of people in that strip.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 5/15/18 at 4:34 pm to
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Funny that people want to dump on Atlanta so often yet so many people choose to live here to better their lives. Hmmm


How many of those individuals actually live in Atlanta though.



Yeah. A better breakdown would be ITP and OTP for the ATL.
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3726 posts
Posted on 5/15/18 at 7:30 pm to
My wife just quit her job with a congressman. Works for our church now
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 5/15/18 at 7:43 pm to
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Arkansas (50.3% major metros)

1. Little Rock (10.9%)
2. Dallas (8.3%)
3. Houston (2.5%)
4. Memphis (2.1%)
5. New York City (1.8%)


The number one place for Arkansas graduates is NWA, which is not considered a move, nor a "major metro" (yet).
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
39596 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 3:50 am to
That's cool

Interesting to see what school export a lot of their talent OOS.
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 3:51 am
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 1:26 pm to

It's far and away the biggest city in the south. It's bigger than Charlotte, Nashville, and Memphis combined, which are cities #2-4 in the 'traditional' (i.e. non-Texas and non-Florida) south.


Largest cities

These are the largest cities in the Southeastern region of the United States by population, according to the United States Census Bureau:[7]
Rank City State Population (2015)
1 Jacksonvillea[›] Florida 868,031
2 Charlotte North Carolina 827,097
3 Washington District of Columbia 672,228
4 Nashvillea[›] Tennessee 660,388
5 Memphis Tennessee 652,717
6 Baltimore Maryland 621,849
7 Louisvillea[›] Kentucky 615,366
8 Atlanta Georgia 463,878
9 Virginia Beach Virginia 452,745
10 Raleigh North Carolina 451,066
11 Miami Florida 441,003
12 New Orleansa[›] Louisiana 389,617
13 Tampa Florida 369,075
14 Lexington Kentucky 314,488
15 Greensboro North Carolina 285,342
16 Orlando Florida 270,394
17 Durham North Carolina 257,636
18 Saint Petersburg Florida 257,083
19 Norfolk Virginia 246,393
20 Winston-Salem North Carolina 241,218
21 Hialeah Florida 237,069
22 Chesapeake Virginia 235,429
23 Baton Rouge Louisiana 228,590
24 Richmond Virginia 220,289
25 Birmingham Alabama 212,461
26 Fayetteville North Carolina 201,963
27 Montgomery Alabama 200,602
28 Columbus Georgia 200,579
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16089 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 1:47 pm to
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Themole


Take into account the sprawl that Atlanta has experienced. Most people who work in Atlanta don't actually live in Atlanta. The Metro region is nearly 6 million people.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 2:50 pm to
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The Metro region is nearly 6 million people.



Metro areas are a better gauge of "big cities". People in San Antonio like to brag that "San Antonio is larger than Dallas", while that's technically true, Dallas is a much "bigger city" because of its connected metropolitan area.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105015 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:16 pm to
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Metro areas are a better gauge of "big cities". People in San Antonio like to brag that "San Antonio is larger than Dallas", while that's technically true, Dallas is a much "bigger city" because of its connected metropolitan area.


Yea, the city of Atlanta is really small geographically too. Unlike a lot of other cities that annexed in smaller cities outside their borders (Philadelphia is a prime example), Atlanta never did.

There are 9 separate cities located primarily inside the perimeter (Atlanta, Decatur, Brookhaven, Chamblee, Doraville, Avondale Estates, Hapeville, College Park, East Point) , which is basically seen as being "the city" part of the Metro area. Those cities have roughly 260K people, and that doesn't count the unincorporated regions ITP that aren't in those cities or the city of Atlanta. And, that obviously doesn't include a lot of the bigger suburb cities (Marietta, Roswell, Alpharetta, Johns Creek, Duluth, Norcross, Stone Mountain, Smyrna, etc). In a lot of big cities the geographical footprint of their city borders would include ALL of that.
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 7:21 pm
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 12:10 am to
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Surprised Birmingham isn't in Miss State's top 5. There seems to have been an influx of MSU grads here over the past 10 or so years.


There are a bunch in Huntsville as well.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134050 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:57 am to
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San Antonio


Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27808 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 1:34 am to
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Yeah. A better breakdown would be ITP and OTP for the ATL.


What does it matter?I'm sure the stat is for the metro areas of all cities listed.

Metro Atl has a population of about 5.7 million and the last estimate I heard for ITP population is around 750k
So I'm assuming a majority would be OTP but not that far outside the loop.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 11:45 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:30 am to
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What does it matter?


The reference was towards "dumping on atlanta" and i replied to the question of how many people live ITP.

The fact the 7:1 "Atlantans" choose to live outside the perimeter is a testimony that there is roughly 2 Atlantas. They are very different politically. Very different in how they choose to raise families. In order to "dump on Atlanta", one may need to specify which one is being referenced (itp or otp).
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27808 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:09 am to
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The fact the 7:1 "Atlantans" choose to live outside the perimeter is a testimony that there is roughly 2 Atlantas


OTP metro is also 10X the size as ITP so it obviously makes sense more people would live there.



Also the price of homes ITP prevents many folks from choosing to live there.

I would also add there are 2 different AtLantas ITP.You
think folks living in Buckhead,Vinings,North Decatur,Brookhavem,Emory and Inman Park are all that much different the folks living in John's Creek,Roswell,Dunwoody,Sugarloaf and Sandy Springs?(part ITP BTW)

Also if you look at the last Atlanta mayoral race the votes cast in the democratic runoff for Mary Norwood
and Bottoms went pretty much along racial lines in the
city.And if people in the newly annexed part of CDC and Emory were allowed to vote Mary Norwood would have won.


This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 2:07 am
Posted by PNW
Nevada
Member since Mar 2014
6338 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:17 am to
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Georgia grads are not very adventurous.


That’s a lie. Over half of my class left the state for the mountains.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:33 am to
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I would also add there are 2 different AtLantas ITP.You
think folks living in Buckhead,Vinings,North Decatur,Brookhavem,Emory and Inman Park are all that much different the folks living in John's Creek,Roswell,Dunwoody,Sugarloaf and Sandy Springs?(part ITP BTW)



I have family ITP. I don't live there myself. I will trust you that there are 2 different Atlantas ITP.

But you may need a map (or travel OTP) if you think Johns Creek or Sugarloaf are anywhere inside the perimeter.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27808 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 3:56 pm to
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But you may need a map (or travel OTP) if you think Johns Creek or Sugarloaf are anywhere inside the perimeter.


You misunderstood.I was comparing ITP neighbourhoods to
OTP neighboorhoods/cities.The latter groups were obviously OTP.

The 2 Atlantas I was referring to (ITP)were the 1st group of neighboorhoods vs areas like SW Atlanta,West Atlanta,Fort Mac,Lakewood,Summerhill,East Point,College
Park etc
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 4:55 pm
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