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re: What Is Your Opinion On Sarah Palin?

Posted on 3/3/14 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 5:55 pm to
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I've been thinking they're about the same, with Obama being slightly worse with how much he's fricked up healthcare reform. But this is a great and definitive point on why Obama is worse.


Bush was the second best thing to happen to the Libertarian root of US politics. Obama is the first.

Both have done more to help younger folks (some of he older are beyond help) take a close look at individual liberty than anything I've seen in my lifetime.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130185 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:06 pm to
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Eisenhower, JFK and Reagan are the only good Presidents we've had since the 50s.

The rest sucked.

LBJ was a racist bigot, and a corrupt POS.
Carter was awful. Good intentions, but in way over his head.
Nixon was a corrupt liar.
Ford just sucked.
H.W. was ok, but nothing special.
Clinton was a habitual liar, womanizer, and crook. The good economy was largely due to the internet boom more than his policies.
Bush was terrible. Nice guy with good intentions, but terrible policies.
Obama is in over his head, not qualified for the job, and a habitual liar with a corrupt administration.


I would say this is fairly accurate, although I don't hold JFK in that high of a regard. Clinton did virtually nothing but benefited from the internet boom.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96751 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:06 pm to
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You could make a case for Clinton being the beneficiary of Reaganomics kicking in.


This. Combined with Internet boom, and the surplus didn't happen until the Republicans had both houses and forced spending cuts.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:07 pm to
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I don't think Obama was any more qualified than Palin, honestly. Being president isn't about being the smartest person or best-qualified.


And that's why it was retarded to run with her. That was the dumbest single move is for an old geiser who is running against someone with little to no experience to run with someone who debatably had even less experience. She served an even shorter term as governor than Obama did as a Senator and only ran a town of 6000 people. Any dumbass can run a town of that size.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96751 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:09 pm to
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No idea what you mean on "crook" unless it's the Whitewater thing.


His connections to the drug trade in Mena, Arkansas.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96751 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:11 pm to
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although I don't hold JFK in that high of a regard.


JFK would have been a great President imo has he not been assassinated. He cared a lot about this country and the people.

He was the last President to really attempt to go after the corruption in Washington. It's what ultimately got him killed, imo.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
48846 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:12 pm to
That and he never lasted longer than three minutes
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:13 pm to
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And let's forget his dynamite economic policy


Bringing the country back to life after Carter... hell yes, it was dynamite.

What I remember about Carter beyond the "malaise" and all the other crap everybody knows about: I was in an active duty Army unit during Carter's last year and Reagan's first before I moved on. In Carter's time the officers in my unit took up collections to buy toilet paper for the barracks, because the unit had no money for it. As a lieutenant I couldn't qualify for a credit card. My married with kids platoon sergeant with 18 yrs service qualified for food stamps. Over half of our vehicles sat idle because we couldn't afford parts. Worst, we could NOT kick anybody out of the Army unless they committed a serious felony because we, along with all other units, were way understrength.

And then Reagan was elected. The first change I noticed was re-enlistments for good people went way up and we actually had a choice about allowing men to re-enlist. We were soon at full strength because of re-enlistment and increased newbies. We amazingly bought enough spare parts to get our equipment running. And I graduated to company XO, where my primary job was processing paperwork to kick no-account lazy pothead shitheels out of the Army. I hated paperwork, but loved that job and went after it with gusto.

So yeah, Reagan was better than Carter! And as I mentioned before, anybody who doesn't think so is too young to remember Carter.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:16 pm to
I think JFK would have been considered good. His assassination makes him a legend, its a big bump for him but not as big of bump as terrible abe got
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:18 pm to
Pretty much agree with your assessment. I voted for McCain/Palin as a lesser of what I knew was a great evil in Obama. Let me put it this way: If the Pub ticket had won and McCain had died (which the Dems suggested) Palin definitely could not have been any worse than Obama. In fact, because should would have likely vetoed Obamacare, there's little doubt that the nation would have been better off as a whole. And she definitely would not have been suckin' Putin's dick only to have him crap on her like he has Obama.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:18 pm to
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Combined with Internet boom, and the surplus didn't happen until the Republicans had both houses and forced spending cuts.



Yeah, after Clinton raised the tax rates in 1993. The truth is the balanced budget came from bipartisan efforts, something this country has lacked since Clinton left office.

I want to say Clinton was a great president but I can't overlook Glass-Steagall being repealed under his watch.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:19 pm to
Reagan was a GREAT President. This doesn't mean he didn't make some mistakes.

Clinton can be partially blamed for Bin Laden's rise and the attacks on Sept. 11th, as well as other attacks during his Presidency. He was too busy covering his scandals up to take care of real issues. And who can forget Universal Healthcare monstrosity, Joycelyn Elders, and that proficient child killer, Janet Reno and the other deaths, his policies are responsible for against U.S. citizens.

He and Bush are on equal footing. The Patriot Act is an abomination. Just as Clinton's policies were.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:19 pm to
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Ending wars>starting wars



He's ended a war?






Yo Trey DickTaster, you wanna come answer this? Thanks
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119908 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:20 pm to
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Ya, the thing is though, I won't be.

Sure you will. Doctor reimbursement will be cut. That affects everyone. Doctors see more patients to make the same amount of money. Home health benefits have been slashed. A tax has been enacted on all medical devices. Plans are all going to be more expensive. So even if your company doesn't change its coverage, their costs go up and their labor costs go up. That will be figured into the calculation of raises and how the company invests its money. So you are 1) economically illiterate and 2) still affected by Obamacare.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 6:21 pm
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44842 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:22 pm to
She read a talking point prepared by the campaign - that's it. Ironically, wikileaks has the cables from when Georgia was invaded - our diplomats were talking about Ukraine being another country Putin might invade during the campaign (when the Georgia invasion occurred). In case you don't know, candidates are given the same kind of security briefings the president gets (a few things are held back but not much) and the reason for that is in case something happens like WWIII breaking out whoever wins would need to up to speed on events. It's also because some events they're going to have to deal with while they're in office whether it's what's going on in Yemen or something like an invasion.

So now you know where the talking point came from. Sarah was then and now an idiot.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 6:23 pm
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
48846 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:23 pm to
Reagan was just an okay president who got deified. Arming Iran and the Afghanis turned out to be really stupid moves.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:25 pm to
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their costs go up and their labor costs go up.


We don't have any
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:26 pm to
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Arming Iran and the Afghanis turned out to be really stupid moves


Bigger mistake, was not coming down with hellfire after the Beirut bombings, imo. I understand why we armed the Afghans, with Russia trying to occupy at the time.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119908 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:26 pm to
And even in this mythical scenario, you will be affected.
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:28 pm to
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We don't have any

My prescription drug costs were once covered 100%, but that changed. Your company could decide to have employees shoulder some of the cost in the future.
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