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re: To those that experienced the 80s

Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:32 pm to
I think that can come down to personality, as well. Some folks are happier with simplicity. Others are happiest when pushing the envelope as far as they can.
Posted by AUCatfish
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:36 pm to
The 80's for some of y'all are some mystical magical time, it wasn't. There was good shite and bad shite, just like now. Music was better, beer wasn't.
Posted by VagueMessage
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:37 pm to
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What truly irks me, though, is the predilection of millenials to shite on their own generation just as quickly as their elders. That's not healthy--stand up for yourselves just like your predecessors did.

Of course, that could just be me failing to keep up with the times of current generations becoming more self-deprecating in order bridge the generational gap more easily, to bring this whole charade full circle


This confuses me, too. It seems to be mostly an Internet thing (YouTube and Reddit come to mind, specifically), but I don't typically hang out with teenagers and early 20-somethings, so maybe it's worse than I think.

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f you walk back that assertion of more expedient gratification being the driving force behind depression, one can make the argument that we should live like the Amish/pre-industrial times in order to truly be happy. All due respect to the Amish, but frick that.


I actually think people who live like that are probably among the happiest on the planet. They wake up every day knowing their role and station in life, they likely don't experience mid life crises brought on by life and society's expectations, and keep generally grounded expectations. I've long thought that a major key to every day happiness is to keep your expectations realistic and don't hinge your livelihood on things and circumstances way beyond your control. I think there's something to be said for avoiding being caught up in an overcrowded society's rat race.

Of course, all that being said, I couldn't see myself living like that. If anything, if someone like me were to even give it a shot, I would feel too much like I'm running from my problems.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:45 pm to
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This confuses me, too. It seems to be mostly an Internet thing (YouTube and Reddit come to mind, specifically), but I don't typically hang out with teenagers and early 20-somethings, so maybe it's worse than I think.


Yeah, I'm kind of in the middle. My personal friends tend to skew older, but I keep in touch with the younger set being the oldest of 9 kids.

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I actually think people who live like that are probably among the happiest on the planet.

that being said, I couldn't see myself living like that. If anything, if someone like me were to even give it a shot, I would feel too much like I'm running from my problems.



I've heard the same, and come to the same conclusion. I couldn't be happy in an environment like that. I truly enjoy being connected to so many people in so many ways, and having the means to travel far and wide by modern means.
Posted by wmr
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:52 pm to
The biggest difference is that Western Civilization is in a deep decline right now. It was already falling in the 80s, but its further down the sewer now than it was then.

Most everyone who lived in the 60s and 70s can remember a time when, at least in most cities and towns, we had a "high trust" society. People could leave their doors unlocked. Kids could play outside. You could let people pump their gas and pay afterward. All kinds of stuff that only happens under certain sociological conditions.

None of that exists anymore in the U.S. None of it will ever exist again until this version of our civilization bottoms out and a new one begins.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:58 pm to
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Most everyone who lived in the 60s and 70s can remember a time when, at least in most cities and towns, we had a "high trust" society.


Most everyone who lived in those times can also remember times when "separate but equal" was the law of the land and the world was literally at war. Ijs.

Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:18 pm to
As compared to todays demand for safe places and world powers in the M.E.? Lol
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:23 pm to
90's were better than the 80's.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:38 pm to
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As compared to todays demand for safe places


That beats the everliving shite out of systemic segregation
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 10:40 pm
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:42 pm to
Its the exact same thing, just a demand feom the opposite side...plus the total breakdown of the famiky unit that wadnt nearly as prevalent then.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:47 pm to
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Its the exact same thing


No, sir, it is not.

Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:02 pm to
Prejudice and forced segregation is what it is. No matter which side of the coin its on.
Posted by VagueMessage
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:04 pm to
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Its the exact same thing, just a demand feom the opposite side...plus the total breakdown of the famiky unit that wadnt nearly as prevalent then


I hate SJWs and overly PC, sterile environments as much as the next guy with a triple digit IQ, but come on man. It's not at all the exact same thing.

And by breakdown of the family unit, do you mean the rise of single parent households?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:05 pm to
What are you referring to? I challenge you to present anything today along the same legal forced segregation lines as Plessy v. Ferguson. And what side of the coin are you referring to? Because inferring from the context of you're responses, it would seem that you think that black people are forcing segregation from whites.

You're engaging in hyperbole.
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 11:06 pm
Posted by VagueMessage
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:06 pm to
That's not the same as state law mandating that you be kept separate, and looking the other way when vigilantes beat the dog shite out of you when they feel you've "stepped out of line". Also, I don't particularly feel segregated by any one group of people.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:07 pm to
Sorry, thought you were discussing the 60's and 70's. Not 1896. My bad.
Posted by Mr.Sinister
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:11 pm to
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To those that experienced the 80s
Things were better without the internet in some ways.

Miami Vice
Hair Metal
70's street rods were cheap and available.. real hot rods, not momma's bought toy with NoS on it.
New Wave
Punk Rock
Reagan and the feeling of America being brought out of a dark age.
Brat pack movies
Back to the future movies
Ghostbusters
ET
The Goonies
Friday the 13th
Atari
Arcades
Tron
Reebok high tops
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure
Married with Children
Real, music videos and music video channels
Space shuttle launches begin for the first time
Smoking pits at high school
CD's introduced
Escape from NY
Panama Jack hats
Banana Republic
Valley girls

And that's just a few basic gnarly and bodacious things off the top of my head.




I will add
Saturday morning cartoons
Sunday Kung Fu theatre

Not saying I hate or dislike the convenience of shite now. The above two things hold fond memories of my childhood in the 80's.

This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 11:15 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:16 pm to
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Sorry, thought you were discussing the 60's and 70's. Not 1896. My bad.


I was responding to this assertion by wmr:

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Most everyone who lived in the 60s and 70s can remember a time when, at least in most cities and towns, we had a "high trust" society.


And you do realize Plessy v. Ferguson wasn't begun to be overturned until 1954, correct? And that that process of overturning lasted well into the 60s and 70s?
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:22 pm to
Still had no bearing on the time frame or discussion. And with respect, when have you ever heard of a black person being charged with a hate crime in comparison to whites charged? Would you say there is a discrepancy by the government to equally charge in instances of clear racial crimes?

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:28 pm to
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Still had no bearing on the time frame or discussion.


You're mistaken. My comments were quite cogent. You failed to keep up with the context.

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with respect, when have you ever heard of a black person being charged with a hate crime in comparison to whites charged? Would you say there is a discrepancy by the government to equally charge in instances of clear racial crimes?


Yes, and I'll say that that goes both ways, given the incidence of harsher penalties for black people when charged with the same crime as a white counterpart. Racial discrepancies in the handling of legal cases is hardly something new (if anything, it's better now than it was before--and that's sad), nor does it favor minorities as a whole in the least.

However, none of the above is as pervasive as "separate but equal" (and let's be clear that the supposed "equal" was far from it in reality) being the law of the land, no matter how you try to spin it.
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 11:38 pm
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