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re: The Pyramids
Posted on 1/14/18 at 8:01 pm to BoarEd
Posted on 1/14/18 at 8:01 pm to BoarEd
quote:When did I say aliens or anything about an alien? My argument has nothing to do with aliens. You are the one being silly by even bringing them up when I made no mention of them whatsoever.
Think about it for a minute, people coming here from outer space have no need for helicopters. That's silly. And the Egyptians damn sure weren't flying around in them.
I'm saying that we as humans were more advanced than what we are lead on to believe. There is evidence that the special tools were used to cut out stone at several ancient sites which could not be done with sticks and stones, which is what we are taught. Plus there are sites around the globe that use similar building techniques found in Egypt that could be seen as evidence to a global civilization. With many cultures speaking of a great flood to wipe out most of civilization, a meteorite could the cause of this flood. If a meteor hit us today, most of life would be killed and humans as a whole will be back to the stone ages if the damage is devastating enough.
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Posted on 1/14/18 at 9:30 pm to DawgGONIT
Yes. Pretty much. Except without the helicopters and junk, IMO.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 9:43 pm to KSGamecock
There's no way some a-hole from Atlanta built that shite.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 10:36 pm to KSGamecock
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They really didn't have much else to do back in the day.
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They really didn't have much else to do back in the day.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 10:50 pm to Dawgholio
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The technology of the time doesn’t match the feat of engineering.
The feat of engineering was to stack huge mined stone blocks on top of each other. The muscles of 100,000 conscripted humans was the technology. It's not a complicated feat. Just an incredible use of human labor.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 10:52 pm to Kentucker
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It's not a complicated feat.
Oh yes it was.
The precision is uncanny.
ETA: The alignment alone is every bit as sophisticated, if not more so, than we can manage today. Its a building who's footprint covers 13 acres worth of land and is oriented to North within 4 arc seconds of true North. Which is incredible.
It sits on one of the most geologically stable pieces of ground on this entire planet because for the thousands of years it has stood there the building hasn't settled at all beyond a fraction of an inch over a length of 765' in all directions.
Find me a builder today who can reproduce this. Shouldn't be hard. He should be the wealthiest man in the world.
This post was edited on 1/14/18 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 1/14/18 at 10:57 pm to BoarEd
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The precision is uncanny.
And done completely with the tools of the day. There's nothing that the Egyptians did that we don't completely understand and can replicate easily. Easily being a relative term considering the number of people it would take to move a 20-ton stone.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 6:36 am to KSGamecock
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This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 10:35 am
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:17 am to KSGamecock
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:30 am to BoarEd
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ETA: The alignment alone is every bit as sophisticated, if not more so, than we can manage today. Its a building who's footprint covers 13 acres worth of land and is oriented to North within 4 arc seconds of true North. Which is incredible.
Well, you have to remember, these aren't the first pyramids to have been built. No, I'm not saying the Flying Fungi from Yuggoth built pyramids and Egyptians copied them. I'm saying the Egyptians built a lot of pyramids before the great pyramids.
Not surprisingly the first attempts sucked. Its not like the Egyptians pulled one of the great wonders of the ancient world out of their butt on the very first one. They learned the way every one learns something new, with a lot of trial and error. Only their trial and error was over hundreds of years.
As for the sheer size of the pyramids that is more a factor of the unusual geography in which Egypt finds itself then anything else.
The Nile river valley is incredibly fertile, and was probably even more fertile at the height of the Egyptian Empire. Lots of food leads to lots of people. Other ancient civilizations solved the excess population problem by conquering their neighbors.
Egypt, though, was isolated on all sides by horrible terrain. Conquering the Libyans (which they did for a while) was a pain because of the desert. Conquering the Nubians (which they did for a while) was a pain because of the mountains. Conquering the Israelis (which they did for a while) was a pain because of the desert.
So they eventually turned to building massive public works to keep the population employed. If you throw enough people at something you can build it really, really big and the Egyptians had plenty of spare people to throw at it.
Sure, it was complicated and impressive, but it was planned and supervised by the intellectual elite of a super stable country who had an awesome number of people to work with.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:09 am to Arksulli
Great post. I can only add that the efforts of the Egyptians were roughly duplicated in the Western Hemisphere by the Maya, the Aztecs and other early civilizations.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:12 am to waiting4saturday
Granaries. 
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:21 am to Kentucker
Maybe the U.S. Air Force had a hand in it ?
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:05 am to Arksulli
I was responding to the assertion that it was, "not a complicated feat."
That statement could not possibly be farther from the truth.
And saying that, well they had a lot of people and time, doesn't change the fact that the building is flat out inexplicable in its precision and detail.
It is, in fact, a complicated feat.
That statement could not possibly be farther from the truth.
And saying that, well they had a lot of people and time, doesn't change the fact that the building is flat out inexplicable in its precision and detail.
It is, in fact, a complicated feat.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:23 am to BoarEd
Furthermore, I do not think the science is settled on the age of the Giza complex.
And to save you time on your next post, I am aware that Egyptologists will tell you it is, but every reason they toss out for saying so is debatable.
The Sphinx appears to be far, far older than is claimed due to showing signs of being eroded by water. So essentially you gotta go back to the younger dryas event before you find a time that the area was prone to being under water.
You won't accept this, and that's fine, because I don't accept your version.
I don't think those other pyramids came first. I think the Giza complex came first and the pyramids you speak of were feeble attempts to recreate the antidilluvian masterwork.
And to save you time on your next post, I am aware that Egyptologists will tell you it is, but every reason they toss out for saying so is debatable.
The Sphinx appears to be far, far older than is claimed due to showing signs of being eroded by water. So essentially you gotta go back to the younger dryas event before you find a time that the area was prone to being under water.
You won't accept this, and that's fine, because I don't accept your version.
I don't think those other pyramids came first. I think the Giza complex came first and the pyramids you speak of were feeble attempts to recreate the antidilluvian masterwork.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:46 am to KSGamecock
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A. The Ancient Egyptians
B. Aliens
C. People from Atlantis
D. Other unknown group of Ancient Humans
E. Other, explain
The correct answer is E
According to the Bible, the Jews were the slaves of the Egyptians and slaves by nature gets stuck doing the heavy lifting.
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How do you think they were built?
If I were Eric Idle, I would go with dinosaurs.
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What was their purpose?
Tourism
Some ancient Egyptian said if we spend the $$ upfront look at the fiscal returns on the tourist trade for the next 3,000 to 5,000 years. Making them out of stone in the dry air with few moving parts meant not much in maintenance and just a handful of ticket takers and guides.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:02 am to BoarEd
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It is, in fact, a complicated feat.
For that time, yes, but completely doable with their technology and labor force as brilliantly described by Arksulli.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:06 am to Kentucker
No, it wasn't brilliantly described. Same tired arse canned responses always tossed out there that always fall short.
There isn't a building on Earth today more accurately aligned to the Cardinal directions.
I don't think a lot of people have an appreciation for what they're looking at with those buildings.
You think you could run even a 100' baseline more accurately aligned to true north? If so I'd like to see it because I don't think you can.
4 arc seconds is insanely accurate. Especially considering the staggering length of each side.
There isn't a building on Earth today more accurately aligned to the Cardinal directions.
I don't think a lot of people have an appreciation for what they're looking at with those buildings.
You think you could run even a 100' baseline more accurately aligned to true north? If so I'd like to see it because I don't think you can.
4 arc seconds is insanely accurate. Especially considering the staggering length of each side.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:16 am to BoarEd
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You think you could run even a 100' baseline more accurately aligned to true north?
Measure twice, cut once.
Not the other way around.
Given enough time to calculate in a terrain devoid of obstacles and changing weather increases the probability of correct and accurate lines of construction. Especially when OCD is encouraged by a strict religious society.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:18 am to Cheese Grits
Time was apparently something they didn't actually have.
These same people saying that this construction was "no complicated feat" also tell us that it was built in only 20 years during the reign of Khufu.
2.5 million stones, weighing 2.5 tons (average. Some of the interior blocks far exceed 2.5 tons), in only 20 years. Lol
These same people saying that this construction was "no complicated feat" also tell us that it was built in only 20 years during the reign of Khufu.
2.5 million stones, weighing 2.5 tons (average. Some of the interior blocks far exceed 2.5 tons), in only 20 years. Lol
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 11:20 am
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