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re: The North Korea threat has gotten worse. I am concerned that this won't end well.

Posted on 8/2/17 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51807 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 4:00 pm to
There's one sure way to stop.

Call up Jinping and tell him that the U.S.isn't buying so much as another plastic toy until they deal with Kim. They're the ones keeping NK afloat.

Fat little bastard would be dead by dark.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20524 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 4:13 pm to
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The United States has been passive toward NK for the last 8+ years. This is not a surprise.




even though you added a "+" we all know what you are implying with "8," and the us has been passive towards n. korea far before obama took office.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19215 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 4:29 pm to
I'm by no means a pacifist, but what is the WIN in smoking N Korea?

They have the missile which may/may not work, they have a nuke. BUT they don't have the technology (yet) to miniaturize a payload capable of being humped by that missile, and THAT is the key for now.

Seol gets hammered hard in a shooting war; we just can't hit all of those pieces and the DMZ forces will be run through like crap through a goose. It will be a long slog for what? MAD is still very much alive, and as nuts as their fatty is, he won't skin that smoke wagon.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:10 pm to
The DMZ "forces" are international troops wearing UN gear. At the first offensive shot they would drop to the ground and surrender. They are really just police officers of the DMZ. It isn't an expected role for them to defend territory.

However, at the DMZ boundary sits massive outposts of troops with armor ready to act on a moment's notice. Even 67 years after the conflict began, tensions are in a hair-trigger state. South Korean forces backed by US might would overwhelm the 160 miles of the DMZ quickly.

The North just isn't similarly equipped and would suffer incredible casualties in the opening days of warfare. The only thing I could compare it to would be the conflict between Germany and Poland at the outset of WW II. We all know how that turned out.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10433 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:19 pm to
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while little Kim is crazy

I haven't seen him do a single thing that leads me to believe he is crazy.

There was that time when his girlfriend broke up with him. She was the lead singer in a pop band. So, he executed the entire band.

I can't really say I wouldn't have done the same thing in his position. The heart is a funny thing.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18174 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:15 pm to
Yeah, we thought that Vietnam and Afghanistan would be easy too. North Korea is a different animal than those two and they have the interests of China backing them.
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:09 pm to
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Afghanistan would be easy too


Apples to oranges brother. It's also worth noting that our military is more than light years more advanced and different than it was in the Vietnam era while North Korea is about as far along as we were back then. They would perhaps slaughter some South Koreans and American forces in the first few days before they were devasted in ways they can't imagine. And the only thing China could or would do is sit back and watch in awe of the capability of the U.S to quickly bring another nation to it's knees and dread the knowledge that there will soon be a major American presence right on their border.
Posted by teamjackson
Headspace, LLC
Member since Nov 2012
4612 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 8:27 am to
I just can't see NK "nuking a US city". We have so much surveillance on every day citizens, let alone eyes on the sky.

They would try and we would chuckle.

USA to NK: "Aww, bless your heart."
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 8:29 am
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95961 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 8:43 am to
Posted by David Ricky
Hailing From Parts Unknown
Member since Sep 2015
24226 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 11:02 pm to
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The problem isn't a military one. A war with NK would be the kind of conflict we and our regional allies are built to fight. You'd have, at a minimum, the extremely capable and modern forces of the US, South Korea, and Japan allied against a military that operates almost entirely Vietnam era systems. They would die in a rapid, massive fashion.


They would die in a quick fashion, this much is true. However, it is both military and a moral question. They have possibly tens of thousands, maybe a few hundreds of thousands pieces of artillery pointed at Seoul. It would be millions dead in a matter of hours.

Then you have to convince young men and ex-military guys to fight our way to Pyongyang so that he can fricking nuke himself.

There is no solution to this conflict other than we should just pull the trigger and get this over with, in my opinion.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 11:15 pm to
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There is no solution to this conflict other than we should just pull the trigger and get this over with, in my opinion.


That's the prevailing opinion of the South Koreans as well. They are tired of the fat little lesbian look-alike. They want a united Korea wheeling and dealing with China, Japan and the rest of Asia. They would kick us out of their country the moment a reunification took place.
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:16 am to
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They would kick us out of their country the moment a reunification took place.


Would maybe be in our interest to stick around awhile. A military presence on the Chinese border would be strategically sound for the west.
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