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Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:28 pm to Stonehog
No. Dwi.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:28 pm to Stonehog
Gun Murders
Rate per 100k inhabitants (2010)
Vermont 0.3 Not strict
New Hampshire 0.4 Not strict
Hawaii 0.5 Not strict
Iowa 0.7 Not strict
Idaho 0.8. Not strict
Bottom 5 states in gun murder rates
Rate per 100k inhabitants (2010)
Vermont 0.3 Not strict
New Hampshire 0.4 Not strict
Hawaii 0.5 Not strict
Iowa 0.7 Not strict
Idaho 0.8. Not strict
Bottom 5 states in gun murder rates
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:28 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Damn, I would have thought that Mexico would have had a much higher rate than us.
Oh trust me they do, that's just the shite that they REPORT. Not what goes on every day with missing person's and the like.
There are tons of people shot every day, even here in Mexico City that they keep it super quiet when someone gets shot and killed. I guarantee that number is phantasmagorically higher than what they report.
And like I said, getting a gun is difficult here. I could probably get one because I know where to go, but if I got caught with it I'd get so many years in prison.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:30 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Mexico provides us with drugs, and we provide them with guns.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:30 pm to the808bass
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Gun Murders
Rate per 100k inhabitants
Vermont 0.3 Not strict
New Hampshire 0.4 Not strict
Hawaii 0.5 Not strict
Iowa 0.7 Not strict
Idaho 0.8. Not strict
This kind of leads me to believe, states with no population have low murders
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:30 pm to Stonehog
States that have stricter guns laws typically have less gun owners per capita. Shocking, I know. keeping that in mind, this quote:
is almost an admission that the numbers completely fall apart when suicide is removed. The other three tables, which neglect suicide, show no significant increases between deaths and lax gun laws.
Good talk.
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The table that follows uses data on all gun-related deaths—homicides, suicides, accidental deaths, and legal interventions involving firearms.
is almost an admission that the numbers completely fall apart when suicide is removed. The other three tables, which neglect suicide, show no significant increases between deaths and lax gun laws.
Good talk.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:31 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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is almost an admission that the numbers completely fall apart when suicide is removed. The other three tables, which neglect suicide, show no significant increases between deaths and lax gun laws.
Ding ding ding.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:33 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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is almost an admission that the numbers completely fall apart when suicide is removed. The other three tables, which neglect suicide, show no significant increases between deaths and lax gun laws.
The numbers don't fall apart. The article measured gun related deaths, not just homicides.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:36 pm to Stonehog
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The numbers don't fall apart. The article measured gun related deaths, not just homicides.
Please read your own article. They chose which charts to include suicide in, and it was done for a reason. The one in which its included shows a significant difference. The lower three, which neglect it, show no significant increase. In fact, one of the averages is identical. I'm sorry to frick your thread up.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:37 pm to Stonehog
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The numbers don't fall apart. The article measured gun related deaths, not just homicides.
Right. But the intent of the article is to pretend that stricter laws will control gun violence.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:41 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Please read your own article. They chose which charts to include suicide in, and it was done for a reason. The one in which its included shows a significant difference. The lower three, which neglect it, show no significant increase. In fact, one of the averages is identical. I'm sorry to frick your thread up.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:42 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Please read your own article.
Please read the thread title.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:45 pm to Stonehog
Are you trying to compare Mexico to the United States?
So, you concede the point that there are other factors that affect gun violence other than gun regulations? Thanks for agreeing with us.
So, you concede the point that there are other factors that affect gun violence other than gun regulations? Thanks for agreeing with us.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:45 pm to The Spleen
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Mexico provides us with drugs, and we provide them with guns.
You realize that even the ATF's own Inspector General's Office fully debunked this assertion, right?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:48 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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So, you concede the point that there are other factors that affect gun violence other than gun regulations? Thanks for agreeing with us.
Sorry, can't compare America to other countries. We're too different.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:51 pm to Stonehog
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Please read the thread title.
I didn't mean to upset you. It's not like we made a bet or anything. I'm just here to educate those who are easily misled. Don't shoot the messenger.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:53 pm to the808bass
I didn't read the study but find the initial reporting suspicious. How do they tease out socioeconomic factors. What defines a gun murder?
The states that have lax gun control laws tend to have more poverty per capita. That's some statistical magic to seperate the gun control effect from education level, economic well being, drug usage rates, and mental health effects. Smells like bullshite, but I can't be sure unless I dig into the methodology.
The states that have lax gun control laws tend to have more poverty per capita. That's some statistical magic to seperate the gun control effect from education level, economic well being, drug usage rates, and mental health effects. Smells like bullshite, but I can't be sure unless I dig into the methodology.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:54 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
The thread is about gun related deaths, but for some reason you don't want to include suicides.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 1:54 pm to JustGetItRight
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Mexico provides us with drugs, and we provide them with guns.
You realize that even the ATF's own Inspector General's Office fully debunked this assertion, right?
I was about to say a friend told me that actually a lot of firearms are filtered through Africa and even China on freighters.
I'm sure many come from America, but I'm also sure a whole hell of a lot of the cheap AKs are coming from Africa.
They'll get the firearms one way or the other...
Well, if only the Mexican government had put the most strict laws down, right?
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