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re: Princeton Review: Acceptance and graduation rates for SEC schools
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:44 am to Old Hellen Yeller
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:44 am to Old Hellen Yeller
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If you graduate in 4, you did it wrong
This!
Even 5 is pushing it - mine was further. My Masters was over a decade, because I had to go to work first . . . most of us do.
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:44 am to flyAU
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I work for one of the largest medical companies in the world. What is your point? If you only have a undergrad, then no, that UGA degree is not why you are working at your job. This is an asinine mindset.
Call it what you will but I assure you that when we are deciding between a UF grad and a MSU grad, both with CS degree and all other things equal,you can bet the offer goes to the Gator. His degree carries more weight in our field.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:46 am to SavageOrangeJug
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A staggering 92 percent of the school’s students get their diplomas within five years of starting school, putting the Commodores well above the rest of their SEC brethren
I've never understood how this is a valid metric for assessing a school's quality.
What if the classes are a pushover? I'm not saying they are at Vandy, but it seems to me you can't distinguish between a school that is easy and therefore graduates a high percentage and a school where students study hard and pass a rigorous curriculum at a high rate.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:47 am to Pettifogger
If the same # of applicants applied to both UGA and Auburn, Auburn acceptance percentage would decrease dramatically.
UGA and GT have the same relationship as Alabama and Auburn. UGA and Alabama receive more applicants because they are the more popular school, and their better schools appeal to a larger crowd (business, politics, law school, etc).
UGA and GT have the same relationship as Alabama and Auburn. UGA and Alabama receive more applicants because they are the more popular school, and their better schools appeal to a larger crowd (business, politics, law school, etc).
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:48 am to WG_Dawg
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3. Georgia: Getting into the state’s flagship university is becoming more competitive each year as 56 percent of the school’s 20,877 applicants were accepted. Georgia graduated 61 percent of its students in four years and 82 percent in five years.
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lots of people gonna be upset with these facts.
The fact that there are only 20K high school students who are Hope Scholarship eligible and want to go to UGA, is an indicator of the school itself. For a state that has a population of over 10 million and offers free tuition for students who are on the A/B Honor Roll, you would think a lot more would apply. It is either a case of Bulldog burnout or a indictment of the Secondary Education System in the State of Georgia. How many GA residents are Hope Scholarship eligible ?
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:48 am to WildTchoupitoulas
It's a worthwhile metric for the seriousness of a school, IMO, but it's not like it's definitive or anything.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:49 am to Pettifogger
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You and me, general knowledge questions, you can choose the topics, go
bruh I've been playing trivia for over a decade.
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But my point is that Auburn isn't last in admission difficulty and the article is misleading by using acceptance % for that measure.
I'm fully aware auburn isn't an awful school. I was just posting those numbers to join in the fun of the thread!
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:49 am to WG_Dawg
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bruh I've been playing trivia for over a decade.
this is real life mofo
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:50 am to Pettifogger
actually this is the internet where google is readily accessible. Playing trivia is actually real life 
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:51 am to SammyTiger
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SammyTiger
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5 years isn't on time at a 4 year college
A lot of programs are no longer 4 year programs. My engineering degree from Auburn required 151 credit hours. At 15 hours a semester (about average) it would take at least 10 semesters. At 2 semesters a year that is 5 years.
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WG_Dawg
Because of the Hope scholarship, quite a few better students are choosing to go to uga for free as opposed to paying to go to an MIT, Harvard, etc.. Hope is fantastic for your school and state and I wish Alabama would start something similar.
That being said for the most part a non-specialized degree from Auburn is just as good as one from UGA is just as good as one from UF.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:51 am to cbi8
Not last 
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:59 am to bofadeez_dawg
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Call it what you will but I assure you that when we are deciding between a UF grad and a MSU grad, both with CS degree and all other things equal,you can bet the offer goes to the Gator. His degree carries more weight in our field.
The first student of the class in CS at MSU vs. the last student at UF in CS, I would put my money on the MSU candidate. You are your own individual when it comes to your grades, your interviewing skills and connections. You cannot say because you got a piece of paper saying you can learn how to do CS from a specific school that you have a huge lead on everyone else when we are talking undergrad (Vandy is the exception).
The point being, don't be too excited about your undergrad degree. It is like me bragging about being so much better that I graduated from Lassiter instead of Pope.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:59 am to flyAU
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The point being, don't be too excited about your undergrad degree. It is like me bragging about being so much better that I graduated from Lassiter instead of Pope.
Well Pope produced gelhead douchebags, soooo
Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:03 am to skrayper
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Not sure how much of this is sarcasm - it doesn't translate well over the internet :)
not direct towards you. Just merely pointing out the flaw/delusion in his comment.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:11 am to WG_Dawg
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UGA:
Avg GPA for first year students: 3.91
ACT average: 29
SAT average: 1290-1480
AU:
Avg GPA for first years: 3.74
ACT range: 24-30
SAT average: 1090-1350
I like how you used different data sets for comparison, 2014 vs 2015, ranges for one but not the other, not including all SAT sections, using ranges as averages(a range of the middle 50% isnt an average btw)...
2014 for both, since thats what both schools have released to date
UGA
AVG GPA 3.86
ACT Avg 28
SAT Avg 1868
AU
AVG GPA 3.77
ACT Avg 29
SAT Average 1736
When you compare different data sets, your argument starts off flawed and weak.
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 9:34 am
Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:12 am to NYCAuburn
I just went by the easiest data I came across. Didn't feel like really plunging in just for a post like that ha.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:18 am to NYCAuburn
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UGA
AVG GPA 3.86
ACT Avg 28
SAT Avg 1868
AU
AVG GPA 3.74
ACT Avg 29
SAT Average 1736
I was even surprised by this. That is a very high number and a great indication of the type student that is enrolling as this is a consistent test. GPA can be biased by school, county and state.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:24 am to Pettifogger
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It's a worthwhile metric for the seriousness of a school
So if you had a school graduating just anyone that paid tuition for 4 years, and had a 95% graduation rate, how could you compare that to a school like Vandy where the grad rate is based on a completely different criterion - scholarship?
Back in the 80s a friend of mine went to Tulane and said it was easy, if you started having trouble in a class, they did everything they could to keep you in school and paying tuition. He wasn't exactly a scholar, as a matter of fact, he could barely read due to 'dyslexia', but he graduated in 5 years (change of curriculum set him back a semester).
Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:24 am to GeorgeReymond
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Acceptance rate is the biggest joke
Biggest joke? Nah. But its importance is over stated. If you have 10 students apply... 9 have 4.0 and 35 or 36 on their ACT's, of course you are going to accept them. Even if you didn't accept the other student, you still got a 90% acceptance rate.
As opposed to a situation with the opposite results. 1 kid had a 2.5 and a 22 gets in and 9 others don't. 10% acceptance rate.
Flawed system to judge schools.
As for the incoming students stats...median is a better look at the middle 50% than the average. The top 2% of students can pull up the average considerably, even though it is not indicative of the group as a whole.
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 9:30 am
Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:34 am to cbi8
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12. Ole Miss: Nothing speaks volumes more than the fact that Ole Miss was not only voted one of the Top 20 Party schools, but also a place where students study the least. But if you’ve been to The Grove once, you’d probably understand. The school accepted 81 percent of its 16,101 applicants probably because they lose so many each year to partying and other extracurriculars. Thirty-seven percent of Ole Miss Students graduate in four years, while 57 percent did so in five years.
My Alma Mater so I'm allowed to say this, but Ole Miss accepts everyone and doesn't give a frick if they fail out. Its a money grab. And its working very, very well.
Probably 1/3rd of my friends from freshman year didn't make it through. The school itself is MUCH harder than the admission standards.
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