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re: Marijuana legalization in SEC states
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:37 pm to coachcrisp
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:37 pm to coachcrisp
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Check out what it's doing to the legal system. Ask people in law enforcement about it.
what about it?
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:39 pm to BoozeDawg
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what about it?
PawPaw heard somebody on Fox News say something negative about legalized marijuana.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 10:18 pm to AUCatfish
Posted on 3/22/19 at 1:55 am to AUCatfish
It's called dope, you millenial.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 5:08 am to coachcrisp
I don’t know anyone in law enforcement to ask
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:45 am to I Bleed Garnet
"Results
The legalization of marijuana produced many unintended consequences, which led to a number of challenges and issues. Some of which have been addressed through ordinances, policies, and procedures, while other issues are more complicated and have not found total resolution. The findings that make up the guidebook show:
Data to determine the impact of legalized marijuana on crime and safety is limited and is a significant problem.
Banking systems are unavailable to the marijuana industry because of federal laws, creating a dangerous level of cash that can lead to robberies.
Difficulties in establishing what is a legal marijuana operation have created problems in conducting investigations, determining probable cause and search and seizure procedures.
Marijuana illegal trading through the black and gray markets has not decreased, law enforcement agencies have found. Diversion across state boundaries has created issues for bordering states who do not have legalized marijuana laws.
Public health and safety impacts concerns have occurred through the increased THC potency from marijuana hash oil extractions, which are used in making laced edibles and beverages. People have overdosed on the higher levels of THC leading to potential psychotic breaks and suicide attempts.
Youth use and addiction rates have increased due to ease of accessibility.
Detecting driving under the influence of marijuana is a significant challenge for law enforcement."
Fellas, don't shoot the messenger. Just google the situation and take an honest approach to what you see.
The legalization of marijuana produced many unintended consequences, which led to a number of challenges and issues. Some of which have been addressed through ordinances, policies, and procedures, while other issues are more complicated and have not found total resolution. The findings that make up the guidebook show:
Data to determine the impact of legalized marijuana on crime and safety is limited and is a significant problem.
Banking systems are unavailable to the marijuana industry because of federal laws, creating a dangerous level of cash that can lead to robberies.
Difficulties in establishing what is a legal marijuana operation have created problems in conducting investigations, determining probable cause and search and seizure procedures.
Marijuana illegal trading through the black and gray markets has not decreased, law enforcement agencies have found. Diversion across state boundaries has created issues for bordering states who do not have legalized marijuana laws.
Public health and safety impacts concerns have occurred through the increased THC potency from marijuana hash oil extractions, which are used in making laced edibles and beverages. People have overdosed on the higher levels of THC leading to potential psychotic breaks and suicide attempts.
Youth use and addiction rates have increased due to ease of accessibility.
Detecting driving under the influence of marijuana is a significant challenge for law enforcement."
Fellas, don't shoot the messenger. Just google the situation and take an honest approach to what you see.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 8:00 am to coachcrisp
I gotta admit.
I’m way too hungover to read that. So crime has increased because of it?
I personally don’t give a shite. It’s prettt easy to get weed here and the cops don’t give a frick as I’ve said before. So i don’t think anything will be talked about soon since the people seem pretty happy with how it’s treated today
Delivery services are basically like seamless or grubhub app.
I’m way too hungover to read that. So crime has increased because of it?
I personally don’t give a shite. It’s prettt easy to get weed here and the cops don’t give a frick as I’ve said before. So i don’t think anything will be talked about soon since the people seem pretty happy with how it’s treated today
Delivery services are basically like seamless or grubhub app.
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 8:01 am
Posted on 3/22/19 at 8:02 am to coachcrisp
Okay i read it.
Youth use and addiction rates have increased due to ease of accessibility.
Detecting driving under the influence of marijuana is a significant challenge for law enforcement."
Is this not any different than booze?
I mean when i was in HS we were sneaking booze all the time.
Or just walking into places and buying it
Youth use and addiction rates have increased due to ease of accessibility.
Detecting driving under the influence of marijuana is a significant challenge for law enforcement."
Is this not any different than booze?
I mean when i was in HS we were sneaking booze all the time.
Or just walking into places and buying it
Posted on 3/22/19 at 8:05 am to coachcrisp
Sounds mostly like another reefer madness. I'm not naive enough to think there are no inherent problems with marijuana, be them health, crime, or public safety, but a lot of the supposed problems with marijuana have been overblown since it has been around.
Marijuana prohibition is also a pretty big revenue stream for law enforcement, so I take their criticisms over its legalization with a grain of salt.
Marijuana prohibition is also a pretty big revenue stream for law enforcement, so I take their criticisms over its legalization with a grain of salt.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 8:41 am to I Bleed Garnet
quote:Where did I sanctify alcohol? So let's legalized ANOTHER society damaging substance because we're stuck with one already?...
Okay i read it.
Youth use and addiction rates have increased due to ease of accessibility.
Detecting driving under the influence of marijuana is a significant challenge for law enforcement."
Is this not any different than booze?
I mean when i was in HS we were sneaking booze all the time.
Or just walking into places and buying it
Posted on 3/22/19 at 8:51 am to The Spleen
quote:A) How do you refute the early findings by calling them overblown?..that's not a realistic answer.
Sounds mostly like another reefer madness. I'm not naive enough to think there are no inherent problems with marijuana, be them health, crime, or public safety, but a lot of the supposed problems with marijuana have been overblown since it has been around.
Marijuana prohibition is also a pretty big revenue stream for law enforcement, so I take their criticisms over its legalization with a grain of salt.
B) Do you really believe that law enforcement is making this all up for the revenue stream?...really?
Again, don't shoot the messenger, but you young folks pride yourselves for being open minded, but that goes for things that you personally don't like, too.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 9:03 am to coachcrisp
A. I'm not talking about any specific findings. I'm talking about the rhetoric used by anti-marijuana advocates throughout history. In the early 1900's, they stoked fear of Mexican migrant farmers becoming violent while high on it. Later in the 40's and 50's they stoked fears of black men getting high and raping white women. Now they stoke fears of kids getting hooked on it. The last one is somewhat of a legitimate concern, especially with the stronger strands that are being developed nowadays, but with proper regulation it can be minimized.
B. I didn't say they made anything up. And yes, I do think they exaggerate problems with it to protect their revenue stream.
And I'm 46, so not really young anymore. I conceded I'm not naive enough to think there are no inherent problems with marijuana, because there are. I just think anti-marijuana folks exaggerate those problems.
B. I didn't say they made anything up. And yes, I do think they exaggerate problems with it to protect their revenue stream.
And I'm 46, so not really young anymore. I conceded I'm not naive enough to think there are no inherent problems with marijuana, because there are. I just think anti-marijuana folks exaggerate those problems.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 9:04 am to coachcrisp
Oh that’s fair you’re right you didn’t. I just see a lotta times the very large marijuana users compare it to booze
I’m not for or against the legalization as I’ve said it’s already pretty good here with it.
I guess it’s bad to think this way that if it doesn’t do anything to my life positive or negative i don’t care.
It’s good now. So if it ain’t broken don’t fix it.
Also, I’m not too educated on it, but Marijuna is addictive? I thought that was what pwoplenised as a plus, that it isn’t
I’m not for or against the legalization as I’ve said it’s already pretty good here with it.
I guess it’s bad to think this way that if it doesn’t do anything to my life positive or negative i don’t care.
It’s good now. So if it ain’t broken don’t fix it.
Also, I’m not too educated on it, but Marijuna is addictive? I thought that was what pwoplenised as a plus, that it isn’t
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 9:06 am
Posted on 3/22/19 at 9:22 am to I Bleed Garnet
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but Marijuna is addictive?
It is, but it's not as damaging of an addiction like alcohol, tobacco, heroin, etc. It's more a psychological addiction than a physical one. When I quit a few years after college, after several years of nearly every day use, I was cranky, tired, and not myself for a week or two.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 9:48 am to The Spleen
Got it.
Can’t say I’ve ever been addicted to anything though.
So i wouldn’t know.
Can’t say I’ve ever been addicted to anything though.
So i wouldn’t know.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 1:10 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Marijuana is not physically addictive. No one has ever died from stoping pot cold turkey.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 1:45 pm to SOSFAN
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Marijuana is not physically addictive. No one has ever died from stoping pot cold turkey.
Yea that’s what I was getting at.
Has anyone also ever OD’d from pot?
Posted on 3/22/19 at 2:23 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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Has anyone also ever OD’d from pot?
I doubt it. For someone not used to it, a large does can cause extreme anxiety. I've been that high before, and it's not a comfortable feeling, but I just went to sleep and woke up fine a few hours later. The few times I've been that high have all been from edibles. Those things take an hour or two to start feeling the effects, and people will eat more thinking they didn't eat enough, then it hits, and you're way too high to function.
coachcrisp mentioned cases of people getting so high they commit suicide. I don't doubt that's happened, but it is likely extremely, extremely rare.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 4:20 pm to The Spleen
quote:I was smoking pot before you (and probably everybody in this thread) was born. Thank God I left it behind after my college years. I lost a son to drug addiction and I know he started with pot.
A. I'm not talking about any specific findings. I'm talking about the rhetoric used by anti-marijuana advocates throughout history. In the early 1900's, they stoked fear of Mexican migrant farmers becoming violent while high on it. Later in the 40's and 50's they stoked fears of black men getting high and raping white women. Now they stoke fears of kids getting hooked on it. The last one is somewhat of a legitimate concern, especially with the stronger strands that are being developed nowadays, but with proper regulation it can be minimized.
B. I didn't say they made anything up. And yes, I do think they exaggerate problems with it to protect their revenue stream.
And I'm 46, so not really young anymore. I conceded I'm not naive enough to think there are no inherent problems with marijuana, because there are. I just think anti-marijuana folks exaggerate those problems.
This is y'all's world now to do with what you want, but most of you will live to regret the national legalization of marijuana, if it happens...and it looks like the direction it's going in. Your friends, family members and society will suffer from it, and when that happens, don't blame it on anyone but yourselves. There'll be folks reading this thread who'll have a brother, sister, daughter or a son to die as a result of drugs, and don't think for a second that legalization of marijuana won't enhance that possibility.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 5:04 pm to coachcrisp
This is a terrible argument. Your opinion is clouded by emotions. Of course a heroin or meth addict will smoke pot! They are already using hard drugs. No meth head or heroin addict is saying, "oh no man not pot that shits bad for you!" Alcohol is more of a gateway drug than pot. Only reason marijuana is bad is because of the stigma that it is illegal!
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