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re: Marijuana legalization in SEC states

Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:02 pm to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 6:02 pm to
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This is a terrible argument. Your opinion is clouded by emotions. Of course a heroin or meth addict will smoke pot! They are already using hard drugs. No meth head or heroin addict is saying, "oh no man not pot that shits bad for you!" Alcohol is more of a gateway drug than pot. Only reason marijuana is bad is because of the stigma that it is illegal!

When one encounters a mentality such as this, there's no need for rebuttal.....thanks for helping make my point.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 9:45 pm to
I am legal medically. I think all people should have access, if they'd like. I smoked a few times in high school, did a decade in the military, and now smoke often.

Just grinded this up. Came in a "flight pack" of 5g, 5 strains. 30.269% thca/Total 31.77%
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
21869 posts
Posted on 3/23/19 at 12:12 am to
I’m using it right now
Posted by teamjackson
Headspace, LLC
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/23/19 at 2:14 am to
Harvest just made the largest acquisition in "cannabis history" a couple days ago. They absorbed Verano, which holds several brands, one being GoldLeaf.

(But hey, steer clear of that devil's lettuce. It's bad mmmkay.)
This post was edited on 3/23/19 at 2:27 am
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/23/19 at 11:23 am to
I understand where you are coming from.
I have a father who’s 15 years sober and a brother who’s 21 and away in rehab.
But I’m not going to blame the drugs or booze on that.

This post was edited on 3/23/19 at 11:24 am
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 3/23/19 at 5:31 pm to
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This is a terrible argument. Your opinion is clouded by emotions.


But a pot heads stoned "clouded" opinion is better??

Or how about the opinion of people who have invested in the legal future of weed...better opinion??

But cops, religious people, etc, shouldnt be listened too, cause it doesnt matter cause they all have "agendas".

Oh....and the alcohol comparison "argument" is lazy, and stupid. Classic potheads though.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 3/23/19 at 10:46 pm to
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But a pot heads stoned "clouded" opinion is better??

Or how about the opinion of people who have invested in the legal future of weed...better opinion??

But cops, religious people, etc, shouldnt be listened too, cause it doesnt matter cause they all have "agendas".

Oh....and the alcohol comparison "argument" is lazy, and stupid. Classic potheads though.




I don’t have an opinion on this either way.

What do you think?
Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
3922 posts
Posted on 3/23/19 at 11:01 pm to
I haven't smoked weed in months!
Posted by teamjackson
Headspace, LLC
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 1:26 pm to
It's people like you that us "clouded, stoned" potheads have a problem with.

People like you that have decision making power, that slows down the future of a crop that SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN CLASSIFIED LIKE IT HAS.

Classic blinded paw paw though.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25194 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 1:53 pm to
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When one encounters a mentality such as this, there's no need for rebuttal.....thanks for helping make my point.


While I am all for legalizing and regulating pot, I do acknowledge there is an issue here. People who use hard drugs also use the wacky weed. And they drink.

Is weed a "gateway" drug or is it something that must of us can use wisely but some of us will abuse? Because that is alcohol as well. Only alcohol is far more addictive.

I still lean towards making weed legal but regulated. Ideally... yes... we wouldn't use weed or alcohol. But we will. The same with prostitution.

Better to regulate and control our vices I think. We are going to do them. Limit the damage they do and keep them under control at least. It is a slippery slope but things change over time. After all, 100 years ago heroin was a perfectly fine medicinal product to give to your children in cough medicine.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 6:37 pm to
No. Just no. If the 49 other states want to legalize it I could get on board with that, I guess. That would send all the stupid fricking potheads here elsewhere, I expect.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:49 am to
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Is weed a "gateway" drug or is it something that must of us can use wisely but some of us will abuse? Because that is alcohol as well. Only alcohol is far more addictive.

Really? Alcohol has been "legalized" for over 80 years now on a national level, and look at our society because of it. When you legalize pot, you'll see usage skyrocket like you did alcohol since its legalization...and that comment about alcohol being "far more addictive" than pot is ridiculous. The strains we'll see (legal and illegal) of pot after legal approval will totally change the landscape, PLUS give society 80 years of free-hand abuse and watch what you'll be dealing with then.
As I've stated, I'm on the back side of my life on this earth so it's not gonna be my baby to rock, but for you 20 somethings and up a decade or two, you'll reap what you sow with your children, friends and their families.
I actually have to smile just a little to myself over this, because I remember how "naive and stupid" I thought my elders were about so many things that I now look back on and just shake my head.
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 8:51 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:04 am to
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I lost a son to drug addiction and I know he started with pot.


I am truly sorry to hear that, and that fact certainly puts your views on it into clearer focus. I lost my little brother who had his own battles, though his drug use was only a minor cause of his death. He was clean when he died in a car accident, but the people he was in the car with were not. Who knows where his life was headed, but he had just been accepted into culinary school when he died.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:19 am to
I'm sorry for your loss. Until one gets up close and personal with a tragedy like this, it's impossible to really understand the terrible waste of quality human life it costs, so I just and leave it at that.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25194 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:20 am to
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Really? Alcohol has been "legalized" for over 80 years now on a national level, and look at our society because of it. When you legalize pot, you'll see usage skyrocket like you did alcohol since its legalization...and that comment about alcohol being "far more addictive" than pot is ridiculous. The strains we'll see (legal and illegal) of pot after legal approval will totally change the landscape, PLUS give society 80 years of free-hand abuse and watch what you'll be dealing with then


Actually that is one of the ways you could tell Prohibition was not working as intended. The first year of Prohibition usage dropped like a rock. By the second year, however, it was up to about 70% of its consumption before Prohibition took place. There was just a lot of gang violence around it instead.

Legal breweries were going out of business left and right (probably where we got the super breweries that dominate American brewing now is that they were the ones to survive) while criminals gleefully took up the slack. Organized crime, a very small niche criminal activity back in the day (as it is now) expanded greatly as a result. Once Prohibition was appealed alcohol usage climbed back up... to where it was before we banned it. We actually drink less now then we did back then believe it or not.

Regardless, a Democracy (well a Republic in our case) exists to give power to the people. Or, here in the US, to give power to multimillionaires on both sides of the political fence who assure us they feel our pain and relate to us. If the people really want to smoke pot then they'll vote to make it legal and the multimillionaires will bravely invest in pot farms to become even richer.

Also assuming folks who disagree with you are in their twenties is a bit off the mark. I can assure you by the grey hair I see in the mirror (though its starting to fall out) and achy joints that some of us aren't Spring Chickens. I'm old enough to remember when MTV actually played music videos. Hell, I'm old enough to remember before cable came around.
Posted by SpeedyNacho
Member since May 2014
2418 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:43 am to
Everybody starts with pot.


Law enforcement wouldnt have to worry about large amounts of cash, if the federal government would ease up so companies could use the banking system. Its really not that much of a problem anymore, private security sector is booming.
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 9:45 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:01 am to
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Also assuming folks who disagree with you are in their twenties is a bit off the mark. I can assure you by the grey hair I see in the mirror (though its starting to fall out) and achy joints that some of us aren't Spring Chickens. I'm old enough to remember when MTV actually played music videos. Hell, I'm old enough to remember before cable came around.

You're obviously too intelligent to use the "if a few are different, then the premise is incorrect" approach to this. Look at the % by age of the population who approve of legalized pot, and you'll see what I was referring to.

"Once Prohibition was appealed alcohol usage climbed back up... to where it was before we banned it."
Isn't that an argument for not legalizing it?

"Regardless, a Democracy (well a Republic in our case) exists to give power to the people. Or, here in the US, to give power to multimillionaires on both sides of the political fence who assure us they feel our pain and relate to us. If the people really want to smoke pot then they'll vote to make it legal and the multimillionaires will bravely invest in pot farms to become even richer."
Question: would our society have been better off if we'd made cigarette production, sales and usage illegal before the country became addicted in the early 1900s?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 2:52 pm to
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Everybody starts with pot.



I can only speak anecdotally, but I know probably just as many people that stopped with pot before trying other illicit drugs, as I do those that did try other illicit drugs after trying pot. So I'm not so sure pot being a so-called gateway drug is worth anything. Besides, I'd say over 90% of those people tried alcohol and/or tobacco before pot, and did so before they were of age to do so. I think some people are just more risk taking than others, and some people are more pre-disposed to addiction than others.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 3:17 pm to
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I think some people are just more risk taking than others, and some people are more pre-disposed to addiction than others.
This is definitely true, even to the point that I'd say the great majority of it is genetic. This is why I so hate to see a youngster's path made easier by legalization. I definitely fit into that category as did my boy.
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 3:21 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 4:09 pm to
I think the addiction gene missed me. My dad was a smoker all his adult life, despite many attempts to quit. My brother had his problems with alcohol and pain pills, but never could quit the cigarettes before his death, and my sister has tried numerous times to quit smoking. Both grandfathers were alcoholics.

Me? I quit cigarettes cold turkey 12 years ago, and after the first few days haven't had even a slight craving since. I was about a 1/2 pack a day smoker for 10 years before quitting.

Cocaine? Tried it, didn't like all that much, but still did my share in college.

Drink pretty regularly, but rarely to the point of being out of control drunk, and can easily go weeks without a drink.

I quit regular pot smoking a couple years after finishing college. Was pretty moody for a week or two after quitting regular, every day use. I'll still partake every now and then when around friends that do. I honestly think a lot of people would be surprised at how many regular folks out there smoke pot regularly. I know doctors, lawyers, business execs, teachers, etc. that do.
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