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re: Is anyone here really against homosexuality?

Posted on 6/9/18 at 12:31 am to
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15163 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 12:31 am to
It also varies from person to person. If they have a tough childhood because of it,(such as family making it difficult for you to come out) then yeah, I could see someone being very lonely. Obviously that seems to be a very small percentage, but also consider all of the people that just never really come out.

Not everyone is as understanding and accepting like you seem to be. And I do appreciate that. But some people just do nothing but make life harder for homosexuals.
This post was edited on 6/9/18 at 12:33 am
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 12:11 pm to
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Alabama isn't the most accepting place in the world. That's why I don't advertise my sexuality. I generally keep it private. When you have some great people around you and supporting you, it makes it easier though.


Most of the South and a good portion of the rest of the country, especially rural areas, are still similar to much of Alabama regarding people who have sexual differences. Ignorance and fear of these differences is decreasng, however, and young people will not experience the level of exclusion and discrimination of older generations. That's a good thing.

Much of the epidemic of mental illness we see in our society today is caused or exacerbated by pigeonholing those who have biological differences from the socially approved norms. I can remember when people with physical abnormalities were gawked at and even ridiculed by insensitive, ignorant morons. There are, of course, many of those still around who don't understand physical differences but they are far fewer in number and it certainly is taboo for them to make fun of the physically handicapped.

Now our society is changing its mores pertaining to the treatment of those who have biologically sexual differences. Gays and bisexuals have advanced to the mainstream of society where their differences are considered unimportant, even boring, by the majority of people.

This will also happen for the other sexually different groups. Their numbers are very much smaller than for gays and bisexuals but this may work to their advantage. Once most people understand that their conditions are not elective and that they don't pose any threats to society, they too will be able to live without the social condemnation that threatens their civil rights.

It's difficult enough having to cope personally with being different. When society adds the dangers of physical harm and loss of freedoms, is it little wonder that many of these people suffer mentally?
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 1:47 pm to
One more question if you don't mind. I know this is personal but is the sex better with men or women or with what gender was your best piece? Also, have you ever thought of getting married or are you looking to be single? Thanks for sharing btw. It isn't the 60's anymore but it still takes courage to share as you have so kudos. If my questions are annoying you just say so and I will leave the thread. Thanks again.
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15163 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 2:59 pm to
I'd rather not answer that first question

As for marriage, I wouldn't mind, but I'm in no hurry.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 3:21 pm to
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is the sex better with men or women or with what gender was your best piece?


You're really bringing a new meaning to the "Multiple techniques" part of this Data quote




The full quote says a ""broad variety of pleasuring" LINK

This Data is not just fully functional, but apparently fully curious as well
Posted by 1LoudTideFan
Member since May 2008
3596 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 3:53 pm to
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Not If I say so. Common sense. You think a guy wakes up one day and just decides he's going to like men? Knowing that it's just going to make his life hell? Not a chance. It's not a choice. You can't help who you're attracted to.




I have lived this. Trust me if I had a choice from the get-go I would've chosen to be straight. That is a fact.

It took me just over a quarter century to come to terms with my sexuality and not hate myself for it anymore. Some people will never understand that my only choice was to accept my truth and come out or live a repressed life of confusion and lies. There simply was never a choice between being gay or straight.
Posted by bingo
indy-freakin'-anna
Member since Sep 2008
4204 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 6:26 pm to
I have never understood why it mattered, why it was anyone's business or why it is a political matter who consenting adults love, have sex with or marry. For adult, consenting heterosexuals, this is personal and not regulated by law or even an interesting topic for discussion.

There are so many, real issues that need to be addressed that affect us as individuals and as a society that are not political, just basic and horrible problems --too many to list but here are a few:

--the opioid epidemic
--the incredible rise of suicide in our country
--school shootings
--illiteracy

The list goes on and on of things that matter and affect everyone. Would love to see all of the time and effort spent in determining and legislating individuals' personal lives channeled into solving real problems.
Posted by Broken Coyote
Seated. Facing forward
Member since Dec 2010
3050 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 8:44 pm to
Be what you want, but do it with the understanding that being gay doesn't make you special or exceptional. It's the other parts of your life that determine your character. If you are low character, I'm not going to like you regardless of who you sleep with.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119112 posts
Posted on 6/10/18 at 8:16 pm to
You really didn't read what I posted, did you?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 8:15 am to
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I don't know of any churches that are not welcoming to anyone who wants to attend.




I guess that depends on how "welcoming" is being defined. I have a close friend that is gay, and has had a difficult time finding a Baptist church that is welcoming and accepting of him. Are the doors open for him to attend? Sure. Has he found a place where he can openly worship and feels a part of the church family? No.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
5485 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 5:09 pm to
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but is there anyone here who is actually still offended by the fact that homosexuality is accepted in modern society? It just seems like this whole thing is a leftover from a bygone era.

The framing of your question forces blunt answers without any nuance or qualifications.

My objections to the practice are solely religious and biblical. Each man or woman who engage in homosexual acts do so without requiring my permission or earning my condemnation.

In the greater sum of all things I am not the offended party nor am I the great judge and arbiter of all things.

My sins and great failings in other areas of my life leave me no room or platform to judge men or women who have succumbed to temptations I have not had to struggle against.

Their quarrel and their lives are in the hands of the great judge and redeemer of creation.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 6:55 pm
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41290 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:28 pm to
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Much of the epidemic of mental illness we see in our society today is caused or exacerbated by pigeonholing those who have biological differences from the socially approved norms. I can remember when people with physical abnormalities were gawked at and even ridiculed by insensitive, ignorant morons. There are, of course, many of those still around who don't understand physical differences but they are far fewer in number and it certainly is taboo for them to make fun of the physically handicapped.

Now our society is changing its mores pertaining to the treatment of those who have biologically sexual differences. Gays and bisexuals have advanced to the mainstream of society where their differences are considered unimportant, even boring, by the majority of people.


Are you trying to tell us that societal pressure to conform is causing all the mental illness in the world today? Because there used to be way more pressure to conform and there was way less mental illness. Way less crime. Way less school shootings. Way less wickedness in general.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:25 pm to
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Are you trying to tell us that societal pressure to conform is causing all the mental illness in the world today?


No, not entirely. "All the mental illness in the world today" has a myriad of causes. From brain defects to stress to, yes, being different in a society that is harsh on differences, mental illnesses range from the incurable to easily treatable such as depression.

For members of the queer (LGBTQIA) community, depression is still the number one mental illness. Even though society in general is now much kinder towards those with sexual differences, it's still a huge burden on a young person when he or she realizes that they don't conform to biological expectations.

40% of homeless young people are queer. Their families have rejected them or they have fled because they just can't pretend to live as someone they're not. In the past there wasn't a lot of support for them and they were abused, even killed, in the streets they had to call home.

Today there's a network that routes them to safe shelters. While it was built primarily for gay youth, it now caters to young people with other sexual identity issues such as transgenders.

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Because there used to be way more pressure to conform and there was way less mental illness.


There was every bit as much mental illness then as now. The difference was that it wasn't talked about back then. We live in a healthier society now than then. Kids who realize that they're different can now speak about it.

Society no longer turns a blind eye when a young person is attacked for being different. The bully is now punished rather than being encouraged to abuse others.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41290 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:12 pm to
I don't believe these statistics you are quoting. Seems like a liberal think tank is just looking for more government money. John Podesta probably sits on the board.

I'm not sure I have an opinion of any relevance on any of this, as it is pretty much covered in treating all people well.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9418 posts
Posted on 6/13/18 at 12:14 am to
Not offended at much as repulsed.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:20 am to
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Not offended at much as repulsed.


Are you watching them have sex?

What is there to be repulsed about as long as you mind your own business?
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15163 posts
Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:32 am to
What's repulsive about it? I'm guessing you don't mind lesbian sex
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/13/18 at 7:18 am to
quote:

There was every bit as much mental illness then as now. The difference was that it wasn't talked about back then.



Not so much talked about, but the definition of mental illness has been rather fluid over time. 30-40 years ago nobody would have known what post-partum depression was, and now it is a household term. I'm not sure the number of women that experienced it has increased, but certainly the number of women diagnosed with it has. Hell, until the 70's, homosexuality was treated as a mental illness.

Today, a lot of behavioral problems in kids fall under the mental illness umbrella, which further skews the numbers.

I'm maybe kind of rambling, but the point I'm making is what we define as mental illness today is often quite different than what we defined as mental illness 30+ years ago.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 6/13/18 at 7:26 am to
Because the butt is made for poo poo not skeet skeet
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95903 posts
Posted on 6/13/18 at 7:29 am to
Den dey eat da poopoo
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