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re: 'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant — I'm going to have a baby,' and I shot her anyway

Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:03 pm to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:03 pm to
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Duke



When did you become such a bleeding puss cake?
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35657 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:04 pm to
Dear Col reb 2011,

If you come into my place, I'd have to assume you are there to kill my family. So my lady would call the cops and I'd be forced to take defensive action to protect the people I love.

If you choose to run away, I won't shoot you as I prefer to not murder you. Not just because I don't want to go to jail, but because murder is wrong.

Go frick yourself with a 10 inch spiney dildo,

Duke
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28315 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:04 pm to
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If you aren't 100% sure that your life is in danger, you can't kill someone


I will err on the side that keeps me alive, and make sure to be there for my own children. He had been in danger, how is he to know when it is over?
If he stops shooting, the criminals meet up at the edge of the woods, and discuss how soft he is, and make another run at him.
Posted by InVolNerable
Member since Jan 2012
10205 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:05 pm to
Had he previously broken into your house, attempting to rob you of belongings as well as threatening your right to peacefully living in your own home? No? Then frick off with your dog shite analogies.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35657 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:05 pm to
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When did you become such a bleeding puss cake?


If having an ethos makes me a bleeding puss cake, I suppose it was since the age I could understand right and wrong.

So like 1991ish?
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35657 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:06 pm to
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Had he previously broken into your house, attempting to rob you of belongings as well as threatening your right to peacefully living in your own home?


None of this is justification for killing someone who is fleeing.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
96197 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:07 pm to
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He had been in danger, how is he to know when it is over?
If he stops shooting, the criminals meet up at the edge of the woods, and discuss how soft he is, and make another run at him.


You can't kill based on possible intent. You can only kill if you are in danger. As soon as she starts to run away, you are no longer in danger. You call the cops and then prepare yourself for the chance that they come back. If they come back and break in, then you can kill them and be justified.


I pray none of you have firearms.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:07 pm to
You know I'm kidding, right? For your viewing pleasure



Posted by InVolNerable
Member since Jan 2012
10205 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:08 pm to
Your ethos is that a criminal's right to break into a home and steal without getting shot is more important than a man's right to feel safe in his own home.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35657 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:09 pm to
I'm on my phone. I saw an orange T without looking at the screenname.

Posted by Col reb 2011
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Member since Apr 2013
1614 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:09 pm to
But if I yell don't shoot and run around ur home backwards while knocking you down and stealing stuff then what?
If my back is always to you then I'm just trying to flee
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
96197 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:09 pm to
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Your ethos is that a criminal's right to break into a home and steal without getting shot is more important than a man's right to feel safe in his own home.


If she was shot inside of his house and not running away, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

She was running away, and he shot her. That's murder.
Posted by InVolNerable
Member since Jan 2012
10205 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:09 pm to
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None of this is justification for killing someone who is fleeing.



Sure it is. And your analogy was absolutely fricking terrible. Just wanted to point that out again.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
96197 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:10 pm to
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But if I yell don't shoot and run around ur home backwards while knocking you down and stealing stuff then what?
If my back is always to you then I'm just trying to flee


Are you mentally retarded?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28315 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:10 pm to
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None of this is justification for killing someone who is fleeing.

Fleeing or regrouping? How can a person know after being attacked by vicious criminals?
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35657 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:11 pm to
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Your ethos is that a criminal's right to break into a home and steal without getting shot is more important than a man's right to feel safe in his own home.


My ethos is that you can kill someone once they flee because you aren't in danger. You have the right to defend your home if someone is in there. Not someone running away in an alley.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
96197 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:11 pm to
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How can a person know after being attacked by vicious criminals?


You don't. That's why you can't justify shooting them when they are fleeing.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99457 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:12 pm to
Some of you guys have a hard time grasping the definition of imminent danger don't you?
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35657 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:17 pm to
It's not an analogy. It was taking someone's point to its admittedly absurd logical conclusion.

I'll explain it for you. He said they were justified because they might be going to get weapons to come back an attack him. Thus saying if you think there is a possibility of someone having/getting a weapon, you have the right to kill them while fleeing. I just took it a step farther from robbers fleeing to someone who simply looks threatening. It's absurd to point out the absurdity of his logic by using the same logic in an absurd case.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35657 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:18 pm to
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You don't. That's why you can't justify shooting them when they are fleeing.


I feel like the whole world has gone crazy when this needs to be explained.
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