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re: ALERT: Gluten is wearing away your intestines and giving you acne!

Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:27 am to
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:27 am to
Bread tastes good and consistent poops are boring.

so are you, pussy man.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:31 am to
Many thanks. I suspect fads such as this originated when evolution for humans stopped. It must be associated with Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome, except the victim is the adult who thinks he is allergic. Or perhaps it's more like hypochondria.

Gluten-containing grains have been consumed regularly by humans for at least 10,000 years. That may not have been enough time for evolution to weed out all those children who were allergic.The gluten allergy is propagating because there are ways for those who are afflicted to stay alive and reproduce.

Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
107627 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:46 am to
I had to do an elimination diet when I was being tested for allergies several months back. I had the fun of having to eliminate the 8 major allergens: wheat, soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts, shellfish/fish, and tree nuts. For about the duration of 2 months.

And it sucked something awful. I also had to really watch my iron and B12 levels when I did it since I've had trouble when I was younger with my B12 dropping. I know that there are people who do it voluntarily for "diet" purposes and I have no idea how they do it.

I will say that it helped me be a "cleaner" eater as you have to eliminate processed foods at that point and I can really tell a difference when I do. And I did find that dairy when added back in gave me some issue (from a point of tolerance, not allergy).

But it seems that the case for a lot of people. That it's generally an intolerance to the processed stuff or an over abundance of what they're eating.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:54 am to
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I had the fun of having to eliminate the 8 major allergens: wheat, soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts, shellfish/fish, and tree nuts. For about the duration of 2 months.


yuck, that's a buttload to eliminate. i guess i could do it but i would not be a happy camper.

Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32232 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:03 pm to
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I will say that it helped me be a "cleaner" eater as you have to eliminate processed foods at that point and I can really tell a difference when I do. And I did find that dairy when added back in gave me some issue (from a point of tolerance, not allergy).



i was the same. i did whole 30 which eliminated gluten and dairy from my diet. i travel for a living and like alcohol so maintaining it permanently isn't an option, but clean eating without wheat made me feel a ton better. unsustainable, but a worthwhile effort for people.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:16 pm to
wheat belly diet

brown rice ftw
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 12:18 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
107627 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

i was the same. i did whole 30 which eliminated gluten and dairy from my diet. i travel for a living and like alcohol so maintaining it permanently isn't an option, but clean eating without wheat made me feel a ton better. unsustainable, but a worthwhile effort for people.


The wheat itself didn't bother me as much as the added sugar that usually comes with processed wheat products.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
16866 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:36 pm to
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Why this is bullshite




Any chemical that was created for the purpose of removing heavy scaling and bacterial build up on pipes and metal containers is NOT ment to be put on to any type of living organism. Unless the end goal is death of course.


That's what Glyphosate was created for. To destroy all the grime and build up in pipes and metal containers. Well, obviously after those systems are flushed, the cleaning agent (Glyphosate) has to be removed and disposed of. Well, In the early to mid 1960's somebody decided to throw out some of that cleaning agent. It just so happened to land on some living plants and weeds. Long story short, Monsanto heard about what the chemical agents were doing to living organisms(weeds and plants in particular) and they ended up buying the chemical outright.


Keep in mind that this chemical, glyphosate, destroys living organisms by binding itself to the metal in all living organisms protein cells. Effectively destroying or making the protein unusable. What happens when your protein becomes unusable or destroyed? Your body starts showing sypmtoms of disease and decay. Organs begin to fail.. you see where I'm going with this.

So, that brings us to where we currently stand. Why would Monsanto want to buy and distribute a chemical agent that destroys all living cells/organisms? Good question. Because it's the worlds best herbicide/pesticide to ever be created. So, naturally the farmers are drawn to it to protect their crop. Well, you can't use it if it kills all life forms. Right? Wrong.

What Monsanto has done is create a genetically engineered strain of crops that is resistant to Glyphosate and market that strain to farmers. Then once they have bought the strain from Monsanto, they can blast it with billions of pounds of Glyphosate and BOOM. No more weeds and insects destroying the crops. Thus, turning out greater profits and a larger amount of crops that can be sold. Sounds like a win - win right? Wrong again.

What they're not telling you is that although those crops have been genetically engieered to withstand the Glyphosate, our bodies are not. So, the billions of pounds of this chemical that are being sprayed on to the crops aren't magically dissapearing are they? No, they're remaining on the crops and then being injested by humans, animals, birds, etc.

All living life forms that have been studied after injesting Glyphosate come up with the same result. Depression, disease, and ultimately death.


If you would like a more indepth explanation of what I've just spoken on, feel free to look up Dr. Thierry Vrain. Also, Nancy Swanson has a terrific science journal documenting her own victory after elimiating Glyphosate from her diet.

Here's where things get weird. Do you have any idea the type of influence Monsanto has on the world stage? Political backing, financial investments, grants, etc. ?


I'll leave you with this. Which I find more troubling then anything that I've mentioned above. Go look at the list of politicians that have been paid by Monsanto or that are actively being paid by Monsanto. It's mind blowing.

The House of Represenatives and the Senate both have well over 75+ combined politicans directly linked to the Monsanto Corporation. Seems odd to me.


To be honest, I could care less if you believe me or not. But, people deserve to be told the truth and history behind what's being applied to their food. By all means, eat up.

Glphosate health effects

Glyphosate wiping out Monarch Butterflies at record rate

Glyphosate aluminum flouride poisioning

Glyphosate & Soybeans

A history of Glyphosate
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 1:24 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70097 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:18 pm to
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It's the high amounts of processed food and poorly made breads ect that are the problem.


F&%king this! The same thing is true for High-Fructose Corn Syrup. You're not losing weight by getting rid of the corn syrup, you're just eating more natural foods since corn syrup is in damn near every processed food.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:23 pm to
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The bottom line is that what you are eating is killing you. Eventually, unless you stop eating, you're going to die


Gonna die no matter what you eat.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:24 pm to
I mean this in the most non-offensive way possible, but who cares about Monarch butterfly when we have millions of people starving because they don't have enough to eat. Monsanto has developed multiple chemicals and weed killing agents. I look at Monsanto with the phrase "for the greater good." I don't agree with some of the things they do, but the alternatives are way less enticing. Sure, Monsanto could be a little less business-like and have hearts when they sue people. But overall, their impact on agriculture and feeding America is a positive one.

People forget about Henrietta Lacks situation. Sometimes you have to think about the greater good.

Organisms on Earth have long been evolutionary creatures. Certain species will die out because of their inability to evolve and change. Sure, I'll be sad if the Monarch Butterfly ceases to exist, but in the same way I'm sad we don't have Sabertooth tigers or Mammoths anymore. Humans changing different organisms is just our way of adapting and evolving.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:28 pm to
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autism, dementia, alzheimers, etc. etc. are all directly linked to it.


Eureka!!!! You have discovered the cause of Gumpism.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:32 pm to
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Bread tastes good


Not all bread is the same.

Most are made with bleached flour and a bunch of shite that is terrible for us to prolong shelf life.

Bread is a great and essential food for humans, but most of the bread we eat isn't real bread.

Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

I mean this in the most non-offensive way possible, but who cares about Monarch butterfly when we have millions of people starving because they don't have enough to eat. Monsanto has developed multiple chemicals and weed killing agents. I look at Monsanto with the phrase "for the greater good." I don't agree with some of the things they do, but the alternatives are way less enticing. Sure, Monsanto could be a little less business-like and have hearts when they sue people. But overall, their impact on agriculture and feeding America is a positive one.

People forget about Henrietta Lacks situation. Sometimes you have to think about the greater good.

Organisms on Earth have long been evolutionary creatures. Certain species will die out because of their inability to evolve and change. Sure, I'll be sad if the Monarch Butterfly ceases to exist, but in the same way I'm sad we don't have Sabertooth tigers or Mammoths anymore. Humans changing different organisms is just our way of adapting and evolving.



Monsanto's shite goes a lot deeper than a butterfly.

But for fun I'll put something to ya -- the reintroduction of wolves to a natural habitat changed to way a river flows. Think about that and why that happened. Everything works together.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62564 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:36 pm to
The wheat germ is generally removed. It's used for animal feed. The bread is artificially fortified to make up for this.

You can make your own bread, leave the wheat germ in tact, and not have to worry about any of it.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:38 pm to
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The wheat germ is generally removed. It's used for animal feed. The bread is artificially fortified to make up for this.

You can make your own bread, leave the wheat germ in tact, and not have to worry about any of it.



...Thanks

Goes a little further than wheat germ.

And I've made my own bread, and buy the most homemade like bread I can find.

Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62564 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:39 pm to
Well there you go
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
16866 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

I mean this in the most non-offensive way possible, but who cares about Monarch butterfly when we have millions of people starving because they don't have enough to eat. Monsanto has developed multiple chemicals and weed killing agents. I look at Monsanto with the phrase "for the greater good." I don't agree with some of the things they do, but the alternatives are way less enticing. Sure, Monsanto could be a little less business-like and have hearts when they sue people. But overall, their impact on agriculture and feeding America is a positive one.

People forget about Henrietta Lacks situation. Sometimes you have to think about the greater good.

Organisms on Earth have long been evolutionary creatures. Certain species will die out because of their inability to evolve and change. Sure, I'll be sad if the Monarch Butterfly ceases to exist, but in the same way I'm sad we don't have Sabertooth tigers or Mammoths anymore. Humans changing different organisms is just our way of adapting and evolving



quote:

Nearly a billion pounds of Monsanto’s glyphosate-based herbicide Roundup is dumped on fields and our lawns each year.

The documented harmful effects of glyphosate extend not just to critical pollinating insects, but also to soil, plant, animal, and human health. It's becoming increasingly clear that glyphosate is doing FAR more harm than anyone ever expected.

Last winter marked the lowest Monarch count on record at a time when other pollinators such as honeybees, native bees, birds, and bats—vital to US agriculture and therefore the nation's economy—also are facing serious decline.

Monarchs do their fair share of pollination, especially on corn.4,5,6 Genetically engineered (GE) corn now accounts for 93 percent of corn grown in the US,7 so you can see how these butterflies can no longer avoid Monsanto’s path of ruin. GE crops are typically the most heavily sprayed, as “Roundup Ready” crops are designed to withstand otherwise lethal doses of this chemical


For the record, I'm not hating on the concept of GMO's. I think that they could be one of the greatest discoveries of our life time. If used properly. It's them being used exclusively with Glyphosate that I'm arguing.

The same chemical that is responsible for wiping out close to 1 billion monarch butterflies or 91% of the species entire population (They qualify under all living organisms, right?) Those same Monarch butterflies that play an important roll in the pollination of crops. Similar to bee's and the impact they play in our everyday life.

1.Exclude glyphosate from GMO's
2.Conduct non-biased testing from a third party on the effects of GMO's with out Glyphosate.
3. Present the facts
4. I'll listen again.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 1:53 pm
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:49 pm to
Weird.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102011 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 3:21 pm to
Id be more worried about the high levels of sodium, hormones, and preservatives in cheap processed food
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