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2,014 years and 359 days ago our Christ was born
Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:33 am
Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:33 am
His birth is MY favorite reason for this season. Despite how you choose to celebrate this holiday, I will pray for you that you begin seeing what you're seeking will never fulfill you. You are able to be the same as me if you change.
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and please join me in denying our blighted eye in 2015.
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and please join me in denying our blighted eye in 2015.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:42 am to Stacked
I thought he was born March 28.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:47 am to JCinBAMA
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I thought he was born March 28.
I heard it was sometime in mid-September...or mid-June
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 7:52 am
Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:52 am to Stacked
Shouldn't it really be in January or February?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:54 am to ohmdawg
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Shouldn't it really be in January or February?
Wouldn't be around winter at all...
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:39 am to Stacked
Some Jewish chick got knocked up over 2 centuries ago and gave birth to a son in a cave in Bethlehem... And so begins the story of Xmas.
But seriously, merry christmas everyone
But seriously, merry christmas everyone
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 8:40 am
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:57 am to Stacked
There's no evidence Jesus was born in December.
Christmas is actually the pagan holiday of Saturnalia celebrating the winter solstice.
Christian fascists couldn't get rid of the holiday so they incorporated it into their myth.
Christmas is actually the pagan holiday of Saturnalia celebrating the winter solstice.
Christian fascists couldn't get rid of the holiday so they incorporated it into their myth.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:10 am to samson'sseed
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Christmas is actually the pagan holiday of Saturnalia celebrating the winter solstice.
Christian fascists couldn't get rid of the holiday so they incorporated it into their myth.
It also includes the Germanic Pagan festival Yule.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:28 am to reggierayreb
It's amazing to me that Jewish woman has managed to convince people for centuries that she not only gave birth to the perfect man, but that she was pregnant yet still a virgin.
Those Jews are some sneaky mother frickers
Those Jews are some sneaky mother frickers
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:36 am to deltaland
Joseph is the ultimate cuck. another man bangs his wife before him and he raises he kid.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:51 am to Stacked
Your Christ wasn't born in 1 CE/AD. Most religious scholars have put his birth around 5-6 BCE.
Let me know if you need this Jew to fill you in more about your messiah.
Let me know if you need this Jew to fill you in more about your messiah.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:07 am to samson'sseed
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Christmas is actually the pagan holiday of Saturnalia celebrating the winter solstice.
Yes.
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Christian fascists couldn't get rid of the holiday so they incorporated it into their myth.
Actually, the early christians changed the holiday date to coincide with Saturnalia so they could hide it among the festivities.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:30 am to cokebottleag
Look up parthenogenesis. It's s one in ten billion chance but...
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:33 am to samson'sseed
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Christian fascists couldn't get rid of the holiday so they incorporated it into their myth.
You probably think they only burned witches too.
Fact is, most Christian holidays did adopt many Pagan rituals and customs into their customs. Probably, because of it being a new religion and it's easier to convert to a newer religion with familiar rituals and customs, although beliefs and changes were made.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:17 pm to samson'sseed
quote:frick Saturn.
Saturnalia
I didn't need to know this shite. I was perfectly happy minding my own business.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 5:35 pm to SEC. 593
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Your Christ wasn't born in 1 CE/AD. Most religious scholars have put his birth around 5-6 BCE.
Let me know if you need this Jew to fill you in more about your messiah.
You're wrong, he was born on Dec. 25th, 0000. That's the reason Christmas is on Dec. 25th.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 6:13 pm to Alahunter
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Fact is, most Christian holidays did adopt many Pagan rituals and customs into their customs. Probably, because of it being a new religion and it's easier to convert to a newer religion with familiar rituals and customs, although beliefs and changes were made.
The purported intelligence of posters who read a blurb on the web and have no overarching sense of history or culture is an endless source of entertainment for me.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:16 pm to the808bass
I pulled this from a website with Bible verses as references. While it doesn’t say exactly when His birth is, it does give pretty good points if you use history, science, and societal customs as a guide. Again, as a Catholic myself, this does not change the fact that we are celebrating Jesus birth and should continue to do so.
First, we know that shepherds were in the fields watching their flocks at the time of Jesus' birth (Luke:2:7-8). Shepherds were not in the fields during December. According to Celebrations: The Complete Book of American Holidays , Luke's account "suggests that Jesus may have been born in summer or early fall. Since December is cold and rainy in Judea, it is likely the shepherds would have sought shelter for their flocks at night"
Second, Jesus' parents came to Bethlehem to register in a Roman census (Luke:2:1-4). Such censuses were not taken in winter, when temperatures often dropped below freezing and roads were in poor condition. Taking a census under such conditions would have been self-defeating.
Given the difficulties and the desire to bring pagans into Christianity, "the important fact then which I have asked you to get clearly into your head is that the fixing of the date as December 25th was a compromise with paganism" (William Walsh, The Story of Santa Klaus , 1970, p. 62).
Since Elizabeth (John's mother) was in her sixth month of pregnancy when Jesus was conceived (Luke:1:24-36), we can determine the approximate time of year Jesus was born if we know when John was born. John's father, Zacharias, was a priest serving in the Jerusalem temple during the course of Abijah (Luke:1:5). Historical calculations indicate this course of service corresponded to June 13-19 in that year ( The Companion Bible , 1974, Appendix 179, p. 200).
It was during this time of temple service that Zacharias learned that he and his wife, Elizabeth, would have a child (Luke:1:8-13). After he completed his service and traveled home, Elizabeth conceived (Luke:1:23-24). Assuming John's conception took place near the end of June, adding nine months brings us to the end of March as the most likely time for John's birth. Adding another six months (the difference in ages between John and Jesus (Luke:1:35-36)) brings us to the end of September as the likely time of Jesus' birth.
Although it is difficult to determine the first time anyone celebrated December 25 as Christmas Day, historians are in general agreement that it was sometime during the fourth century. This is an amazingly late date. Christmas was not observed in Rome, the capital of the Roman Empire, until about 300 years after Christ's death. Its origins cannot be traced back to either the teachings or practices of the earliest Christians
First, we know that shepherds were in the fields watching their flocks at the time of Jesus' birth (Luke:2:7-8). Shepherds were not in the fields during December. According to Celebrations: The Complete Book of American Holidays , Luke's account "suggests that Jesus may have been born in summer or early fall. Since December is cold and rainy in Judea, it is likely the shepherds would have sought shelter for their flocks at night"
Second, Jesus' parents came to Bethlehem to register in a Roman census (Luke:2:1-4). Such censuses were not taken in winter, when temperatures often dropped below freezing and roads were in poor condition. Taking a census under such conditions would have been self-defeating.
Given the difficulties and the desire to bring pagans into Christianity, "the important fact then which I have asked you to get clearly into your head is that the fixing of the date as December 25th was a compromise with paganism" (William Walsh, The Story of Santa Klaus , 1970, p. 62).
Since Elizabeth (John's mother) was in her sixth month of pregnancy when Jesus was conceived (Luke:1:24-36), we can determine the approximate time of year Jesus was born if we know when John was born. John's father, Zacharias, was a priest serving in the Jerusalem temple during the course of Abijah (Luke:1:5). Historical calculations indicate this course of service corresponded to June 13-19 in that year ( The Companion Bible , 1974, Appendix 179, p. 200).
It was during this time of temple service that Zacharias learned that he and his wife, Elizabeth, would have a child (Luke:1:8-13). After he completed his service and traveled home, Elizabeth conceived (Luke:1:23-24). Assuming John's conception took place near the end of June, adding nine months brings us to the end of March as the most likely time for John's birth. Adding another six months (the difference in ages between John and Jesus (Luke:1:35-36)) brings us to the end of September as the likely time of Jesus' birth.
Although it is difficult to determine the first time anyone celebrated December 25 as Christmas Day, historians are in general agreement that it was sometime during the fourth century. This is an amazingly late date. Christmas was not observed in Rome, the capital of the Roman Empire, until about 300 years after Christ's death. Its origins cannot be traced back to either the teachings or practices of the earliest Christians
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