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NBA radio Rick Kamla and AD on John Wall

Posted on 9/24/21 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 9/24/21 at 2:41 pm
They think Wall's best fit would be with Pels, only in a buyout though. Rick suggested using the MLE (which we still have available) on Wall, something like a 2/20 deal.

I think I would like that, Wall/NAW/Ingram/Zion/Val with Graham/Sato/Hart/Trey/Hayes off the bench.

Thoughts?
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
6553 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 2:44 pm to
Great idea

I look forward to hearing that he signed a 1 year - $17,390 deal with a team in L.A. or New York
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115473 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 2:57 pm to
If the 2nd year is a team option sure, but we also don't have an available roster spot to my knowledge.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14158 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 2:58 pm to
We don't have an open spot, however Wenyen is on a NG contract, so he would likely have to go.

Second year would be a player option, reason being Wall would be trying to guarantee he gets some of the money back he gave up in the buyout (40 million or so)
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 2:59 pm
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 3:00 pm to
The spacing issue would rival last years, but the raw talent would be improved.

I wouldn’t say no, but I’m not sure I’d agree it’s the best fit.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17444 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 3:06 pm to
If anything, he can teach Zion the value of getting your money now before you blow your knee out and tank your value.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

I look forward to hearing that he signed a 1 year - $17,390 deal with a team in L.A. or New York


Could 100% see him landing in Brooklyn to replace Kyrie if he refuses to get the vaccine.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115473 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 3:07 pm to
I'm actually excluding Wenyen and including Herb Jones.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/24/21 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

If the 2nd year is a team option sure, but we also don't have an available roster spot to my knowledge.


Creating a roster spot would not be a big problem.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110670 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 3:47 pm to
I'd only want him on a really cheap or 1 year deal playing spot minutes, like 15 mpg or something. Anything else is a no for me.

I don't want a guy playing 32 minutes a night at guard shooting 31% from 3.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52530 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 3:53 pm to
Doubt we’d get him. Especially if it’s a min deal. He’s probably prefer to go to a contender with that kind of offer
Posted by PigDog33
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2021
749 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 4:01 pm to
Only shot at getting stars is through trades.
Nobody in demand is choosing to come to the Pels right now. So there is not shot on John wall coming here after a buy out. That’s just reality.
A winning season or two should change that hopefully.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6536 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 4:02 pm to
Those two dudes are super annoying. Ya boy Rick is an idiot who talks too loud
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14158 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 4:13 pm to
We would have to pay him to get him here. We are the only team left with the full MLE and the only ones that could offer him the most money, along with playing time.

He could take a minimum deal with a contender, but then he would be giving up even more money in the long run by losing what he gave in the buyout, plus not getting minutes so he loses the opportunity to show himself and get another bigish contract. He's only 31, if he can get a buyout and land on a team he can actually play 28-30 mpg for, show himself, then he's still got an opportunity to land another deal with someone that maybe willing to pay him.

It also would go a long way in the national media narrative that Zion has no help and needs to get out (which is bullshite)
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14158 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 4:25 pm to
Forgot about Herb.

Creating a spot wouldn't be a big issue though, you do it if he would come.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115473 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 4:30 pm to
John Wall isn’t a star anymore.
Posted by aswemajor
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2011
1703 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 4:53 pm to
I’m down for John Wall. Don’t care how slow he is as long as he can keep everybody under control and get us calmly into our sets.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94846 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 10:35 am to
If Wall gets a buyout, he has no need to get a deal over the minimum for any seasons where Houston is paying a buyout.

This is a standard deal whenever a player takes a buyout. Any contracts he gets for seasons covered by the old team are dirt cheap. Any seasons after that point are at market rate.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9758 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 11:59 am to
Why would he take a buyout? He is guaranteed 90M over the next two years. Why take less?
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14158 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 1:21 pm to
Houston will not give him a buyout unless he gives up a significant chunk of money.

Their reasoning was based on noteam that makes sense will trade for him with his current contract, and by Thanksgiving he will get antsy and want to play, so he maybe more prone to giving up 20-30 million to get a buyout.

In that scenario he would have to go to a team that he can actually get real minutes on, and still make the most money possible, and with Pels having a "need" for another vet player and having the most money available to offer via MLE, it would be the best "fit" for Wall.
This post was edited on 9/25/21 at 1:22 pm
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