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re: Why can't we fire Anderson now?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:40 am to Remote Controlled
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:40 am to Remote Controlled
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I'm probably not the only one who feels that way, but since you seem to want to give Kim a reach around for his outstanding work, we should keep him.
Obviously you haven't read any of my posts about KA. I've said this multiple times: I've supported him the past 2 yrs but this year it's put up or shut up. I just don't agree with firing a coach mid-year because there are no worthy replacements.
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:53 am to Remote Controlled
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I think hiring a D-2 coach to coach an SEC team already looked pretty clueless.
No need to double down.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:55 am to spytiger
Nothing to gain by firing him this early in the year. Let it play out.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:20 am to mizslu314
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Gregg Marshall is a f****** douche. It will be really hard for me to watch mizzou basketball if he's the coach
Have no fear. Our window with him has closed. Probably on both ends. We will have a completely different fricking douche as our coach.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:29 am to the808bass
One of the main reasons Marshall wanted the guarantees last time around was that he recognized that Mizzou was in need of a complete rebuild. Mizzou still is in that same position.
If Mizzou wants a quality and proven coach it will take $4-5 a year over a 7 year contract, or a rolling contract.
It's never been something that Mizzou has done with new coaches. Both MA and GP ended being well paid among coaches, but neither started that way.
If Mizzou wants a quality and proven coach it will take $4-5 a year over a 7 year contract, or a rolling contract.
It's never been something that Mizzou has done with new coaches. Both MA and GP ended being well paid among coaches, but neither started that way.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:18 pm to mizslu314
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Gregg Marshall is a f****** douche. It will be really hard for me to watch mizzou basketball if he's the coach
Calipari's face is the only thing that shows up on wiki when you search 'douche'.
Bill Self is a douche.
College basketball is slimy. As long as they're not leaving land mines all over the place like Haith, you're probably going to have to deal with some sleazy characteristics if you're gonna get a blue-blood.
And you'd watch Mizzou in the Sweet 16 no matter who the coach was.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:28 pm to wubilli
Marshall didn't not come because we were in a "total rebuild." That's what haters of Haith/lovers of Kim say. We had a more talented roster than WSU did that year. I know several people will lose their shite reading that. Doesn't change the truth of it.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:05 pm to the808bass
Was the impending investigation part of the reasoning?
And/or the cultural issues which he would have had to address.
Safe play to stay where he was at in an environment that he had complete control over vs coming into a situation that had some underlying issues and a question mark with investigation.
*shite. Wait. Was the Marshall thing pre-Haith? I don't even know anymore.
And/or the cultural issues which he would have had to address.
Safe play to stay where he was at in an environment that he had complete control over vs coming into a situation that had some underlying issues and a question mark with investigation.
*shite. Wait. Was the Marshall thing pre-Haith? I don't even know anymore.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:36 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Was the impending investigation part of the reasoning?
According to Anderson, Alden didn't inform him of the impending investigation. If he didn't tell Anderson, I can't imagine he told Marshall.
I'm not altogether convinced our Athletic Department didn't investigate itself to give it an excuse to keep Kim another year with some donors.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:37 pm to the808bass
It funny that Mizzou hoops discussions the last few years always breaks down to KAers or Haithers.
Rebuilds happen all the time in college hoops. Duke and Kentucky have to do it every year because of how they recruit. Haith's approach with transfers led to the team needing to be rebuilt every year as well.
Mizzou was 9 wins bad, but also wasn't 20 wins good either.
Marshall wanted some guarantees in his contract because he knew that it would take a couple of years to build Mizzou up so that it was similar to what he had at WSU. Mizzou wasn't willing to give Marshall those guarantees.
Rebuilds happen all the time in college hoops. Duke and Kentucky have to do it every year because of how they recruit. Haith's approach with transfers led to the team needing to be rebuilt every year as well.
Mizzou was 9 wins bad, but also wasn't 20 wins good either.
Marshall wanted some guarantees in his contract because he knew that it would take a couple of years to build Mizzou up so that it was similar to what he had at WSU. Mizzou wasn't willing to give Marshall those guarantees.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:39 pm to wubilli
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Marshall wanted some guarantees in his contract because he knew that it would take a couple of years to build Mizzou up so that it was similar to what he had at WSU. Mizzou wasn't willing to give Marshall those guarantees.
That's not what I heard. But I'm not 100% positive my version is the gospel. I heard he let his family decide and they didn't want him to take the job with his son's last year of high school approaching.
If we were willing to give a four year contract to a shite coach, I don't see us not giving a 5-7 year contract to Marshall.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:42 pm to wubilli
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Haith's approach with transfers led to the team needing to be rebuilt every year as well.
Haith had to do that because the boosters lost their shite when he only went to the NIT. But they were fine with winning 8 games Kim's first year. That's not an impossible riddle to figure out, but no one likes to hear the answer.
I do agree that Haith wasn't an inspiring coach and had obvious, glaring deficiencies which were always going to be there. Anderson makes him look like a basketball savant.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:50 pm to the808bass
The real mistake was when Mizzou missed on Marshall, Wolfe and other higher ups ordered Alden to hire KA instead of going to his second, third, & fourth options.
If those types stay out of AD operations Mizzou still could have hired a good proven coach.
If those types stay out of AD operations Mizzou still could have hired a good proven coach.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:53 pm to wubilli
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The real mistake was when Mizzou missed on Marshall, Wolfe and other higher ups ordered Alden to hire KA instead of going to his second, third, & fourth options.
There was no second, third or fourth option. Alden calling Jamie Dixon on Monday morning with a Hail Mary offer isn't an "option." And at that point, the other options had withdrawn their names.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 5:00 pm to the808bass
That's not the story that I have heard. There were still some good options available.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 5:56 pm to wubilli
White and the slimy dude who went to Tenner were off the table at that point. I didn't hear any other coaches connected to the job. But that doesn't mean there weren't other options.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 6:09 pm to the808bass
Ben Howland wasn't even contacted.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 6:38 pm to the808bass
I didn't down vote that, btw.
That's not a terrible theory.
Maybe Kim was just saying what he thought he should say.
Maybe it's true he wasn't told.
In either case maybe the coaches circle knew Haith left land mines.
That's not a terrible theory.
Maybe Kim was just saying what he thought he should say.
Maybe it's true he wasn't told.
In either case maybe the coaches circle knew Haith left land mines.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:18 pm to Sleeping Tiger
The story I heard was that Gregg Marshall's wife had a "lost weekend" in Tijuana that resulted in not one, but two abortions. First one didn't take, apparently.
Thing is, she fell madly in love with the doctor who performed the second procedure (first one she is in the process of suing). This why she lobbied so forcefully for her hubby to stay.
Thing is, she fell madly in love with the doctor who performed the second procedure (first one she is in the process of suing). This why she lobbied so forcefully for her hubby to stay.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:52 pm to sofa
What do we gain from firing him now? Serious question.
What do we lose?
How do his players react? How about recruits? Who coaches the rest of the season? Is that a better option? What active coaches would even listen to a school with an interim coach this early in the season as compared to quiet back door inquiries with a head coach already in place? Are we in a better search position with a grad assistant in charge?
All questions I hope Sterk is smart enough to ask along with many others. All questions I hope Sterk is smart enough to answer.
In the meantime we have KA. Some of us will just have to scream, jump up and down, and hold our breath until we turn purple.
What do we lose?
How do his players react? How about recruits? Who coaches the rest of the season? Is that a better option? What active coaches would even listen to a school with an interim coach this early in the season as compared to quiet back door inquiries with a head coach already in place? Are we in a better search position with a grad assistant in charge?
All questions I hope Sterk is smart enough to ask along with many others. All questions I hope Sterk is smart enough to answer.
In the meantime we have KA. Some of us will just have to scream, jump up and down, and hold our breath until we turn purple.
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