re: Steck lost this game

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Yeah Rig I have coached football for 17 years and even coached the Wishbone as our O as well as the spread read option, and I am telling you a 3-5 or 4-2-5 look both SUCK vs a competent option.

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So how do you beat it? What's required schematically and personnel wise and where is Missouri deficient?

As many details and as long winded as you want to go would be completely appreciated...

After last night, does it concern anyone that in this next years class we have 2 LB's and 1 DE and 0 DT's committed? That was the thought that went through my head as they were gashing us for 20 yards a carry.

How do you beat an option is not an easy question to ask. I can tell you a 3-5 look with backers playing 5 off is not it.

When we ran the option our mindset was whatever they do we will exploit it. The biggest problems were having strong interior DL that could stuff the combo block and let the backers run unmolested. Controlled blitzing is a win/lose for the D as it may stuff a play or give up a big run. The problem with a 3-4 Nickel (3-5 w/walked up S) is that it makes the combo blocks easier for the OL. They can easily see the backers and have more time to get a push or seal on the DL. Plus the linebackers at 4-5 yards off mean that the read from the QB & Backs is not under any type of pressure. You only really want to throw in that O for big plays and scores, so you have to jam the box. Missouri was running 7 in the box most of the night and playing well off the receivers. I do not think the CB's were really misaligned as much as the backers and safeties. Mizzou should have run either a 3-4 with OLB's in press on the outside (on the LOS) or their normal 4-3 with backers closer to the LOS 2-3 yards (like seen a couple of times in the 2nd half). I would also roll the dice a few times to try and get a big play through a run blitz. Steck got raped by Navy in 09 and our non-attacking style is death vs an offense that the defense has to pressure into mistakes in reads and ball handling.

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Meh. We've seen Mizzou football against power running teams. And we've seen how we perform. Just like tonight. We're entitled to melt down a little and don't need your fricking high-horse attitude or a remedial lesson in football. Gfy and come back later when we're in a better mood.

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I know how it feels to lose the SEC championship. We've done it the last two years.

Don't expect sympathy from me.

I don't think I said sympathy anywhere in my post.

Fwiw, I don't agree with 808, seems like you know football better than anyone on this board to be honest. (That's not a slight at anyone else)

I appreciate your input

I knew when Danielson complained about the 3 man defensive line, Tiger fans would eat that up.

The Tiger defensive ends other than Ealy are 260 or less and this late into the season are all likely 250lbs or less. That's great for rushing the passer but stinks against the option. By going with a 3 man front they basically moved a DE back into OLBer mode. People say "set the edge", 250 DEs can't "set the edge".

The Tiger DTs aren't premier this year. Brantley and Augusta are Freshman.

The idea that playing your ILBers close to the line was the answer is silly. Auburn just adjusted and ran outside. Mizzou adjusted and Auburn went back inside. When the OLBers crashed inside, Auburn swept their FB around to block them off and bam - 15 yard pickup off tackle.

Claiming a simple adjustment would stop an offense that gashed Alabama for almost 300 yards is embarrassing.

"Defending a Spread Triple Option Hurry Up Offense is like fighting terrorism. You have to be right 100% of the time. They only have to be right once."

By 100%, if you mean all 11 defensive players have to be right in reading the play, adjusting to it and executing their assignment, you are correct.

The MU defensive line strength is that they have 4 FAST DEs who get up field to force the QB. That is worthless against the option. In the 4-3 defense, those DEs were essentially useless because they were running upfield and exposing the LBers.

Auburn is playing in the National Championship game with an offense people seem to think is easy to stop.