re: So is it really Maty Mauk

Welp, they've already suspended him. He gone

He'll be booted. They just have to get their ducks in a row first

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It is just recently that it has become such a taboo drug and subject.


I don't know about that. I don't ever remember the general public being accepting of people doing lines. I've known plenty of people who have done it and went on to live productive lives and I've known more that have had their lives ruined by it. I don't wish the kid ill. It's just an image we don't need. Not in the 80's. Not now.

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Doesn't sound like they have seen this video before now.

Sounds like he's gone for good.

As far as cocaine goes, it was less taboo until around 1980 because it wasn't that popular or well known. When George Jung (Johnny Depp's Character in Blow) and Pablo Escobar flooded the market, people started dropping like flies. Len Bias? I've lost friends recently due to heart attacks likely caused by depreciated heart lining from their cocaine use in the 80s and 90s. Verry different stigma than pot.

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I love how your old defense was that it was hearsay. I also love your new defense.

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+1

Personally, I am so tired, embarrassed, shocked, whatever word you want to insert over all of this.

We need to just cut ties and be done with it.

This might be old news, but it's not going away. Who knows what other skeletons in the closet there are still waiting to get out?

And can we say with any certainty the "new" Maty is any different from the old?

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I love how your old defense was that it was hearsay. I also love your new defense.

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What can I say? I don't care about recreational drug use. I find it funny that people are so apologetic for weed, but so against coke/adderall/etc. Both being illegal and all. One makes you a dumb kid, and the other an enigma?

Either way, my opinion is still the same, it would be worse to do something after a video came out (assuming they knew about the event before)

You should have lead with that, then. "I don't care if Maty is snorting cocaine and dealing it." Not your silly "You didn't personally witness it so you have no proof so we should pretend like nothing happened."

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Not your silly "You didn't personally witness it so you have no proof so we should pretend like nothing happened."

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That is also true, it was all speculative until now. But don't double dip on the criticism. If you were upset about it back then, cool, you were right. Just admit you don't like the kid. This new/old video shouldn't change your perception of the situation if you have already resigned yourself to the fact back in September/October.

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And he is still putting the program in a bad light

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That there is the debatable point. Video is at least from before December, as evidenced by the haircut. If this video/situation was the reason for original suspension, it seems to me that it would be bad look to re-punish him after already reinstating him.

Sure, you can say he should already be gone by now, but that doesn't have to do with the present conundrum. He is/was back on the team. My opinion, but here are the scenarios.

1. New evidence, unknown to staff- If by some unlikely even that the staff didn't know about this, the decision is pretty easy, and understandable. By know about it, I mean the use, not the video.

2. New evidence, known already, punishment- Ray Rice situation. Extra punishment only because a video came out, not a good look.

3. New evidence, known, no punishment- acknowledge this was this issue that led to initial suspension, got help, etc, No further punishment.


I really don't see any other scenario. 1 and 3 seem like decent options. 2 seems like digging a further hole.

Personally, the video showed me Mauk is not a coke head. He didn't know what he was doing. He looked like a kid pretending to do a fake bump. Definitely hanging with the wrong crowd though with drugs and d-bag tendencies on display.