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Posted on 10/16/25 at 5:29 pm to notsince98
Valid point and the reason for my question. I’m afraid this coaching cycle we are going to see salaries reset. If we believe in Drink, do we increase, lock him up and stay out of the conversation of coaching changes? With the portal, coaching changes can have an immediate impact on a program.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 5:49 pm to Arktigers
Drink didnt take more money on his last extension. He took more money for his assistants. I don't worry about Drink wanting more money, I worry about PSU being a great job to have. 111K in the stands, easier path to the playoff. That's my concern.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 5:55 pm to surgicalvenom
Indiana just gave Curt 11.6 million reasons a year not to consider PSU
Posted on 10/16/25 at 6:06 pm to navynuke
That’s kind of my point. Continue to invest in Drink (if you believe) and make it more difficult to leave. Offer an extension to at minimum gage intentions. Mizzou doesn’t have 100k stadium but the gap between programs isn’t what it was. Just thinking Mizzou should get in front of this if FL, AU etc jobs also come open.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 7:18 pm to Arktigers
In the day of NIL, those are not better jobs.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:43 am to Arktigers
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Continue to invest in Drink
Agreed. He has put a great staff together, has elevated HS recruiting, and has navigated the NIL and Portal as well as anyone in the country. Letting him walk to another program would eventually cost Laird his job.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:10 am to navynuke
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Letting him walk to another program would eventually cost Laird his job.
The chances of someone recreating / continuing what Drink's started would be a tall task.
surgicalvenom talking about an easier path to the playoffs at Penn State is absolutely true. And with Drink establishing connections in Pennsylvania I'd be lying if I said it's not concerning. Looking at PSU's and Missouri's future schedules (with all the in-conference B1G cupcakes vs the SEC), I could see someone wanting to leave one step ahead potential 6 or 7 win seasons. I think Drink is up to the SEC challenge but he'll have to be relentless 24/365.
The SEC is going to regret going to 9 game regular seasons when the committee goes ahead and awards playoff berths to 1 loss teams who didn't play representative schedules.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:20 am to navynuke
Drink is building a legacy at MU. I saw his interview and his comments about being just close enough to home.
If he moves on he becomes another gun for hire who is always looking for the next big payday. Building a real legacy, and making millions, while living in the great state of MO seems like a no brainer to me.
If he moves on he becomes another gun for hire who is always looking for the next big payday. Building a real legacy, and making millions, while living in the great state of MO seems like a no brainer to me.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:23 am to Mizz-SEC
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I could see someone wanting to leave one step ahead potential 6 or 7 win seasons. I think Drink is up to the SEC challenge but he'll have to be relentless 24/365.
Penn State wants a National Championship. Mizzou is just a better, do things at your pace, and the way you want to kind of place. Nobody wants to be under the microscope like Penn State.Moreover, James Franklin, IMO, didn't deserve to be fired when he did. Maybe in December but not now.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:53 am to Mizz-SEC
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he'll have to be relentless 24/365.
He'd have to be just as relentless coaching at Penn State. Franklin went from final four of the CFBP to unemployed in 10 months. He got them as close to a natty as they have been in decades and all it took was 3 losses. Im not sure that decision makes it a very desirable position for anyone not named Matt Rhule.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 1:56 pm to navynuke
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He got them as close to a natty as they have been in decades and all it took was 3 losses.
I get the sentiment behind this statement but I also think there is a bit more into it. I dont think it was just 3 losses. Heck, I dont even think the Oregon loss factored into it. I think he was fired for two losses. The UCLA loss was just unexplainable or tolerable. Then to follow that up with the Northwestern loss during a season where you have THE QB you hand picked to lead you to the promise land... and I dont blame PSU for thinking if they want to stay in the NC talks moving forward, they couldn't afford to go backward.
This also doesn't even go into JF's record vs ranked or top 10 teams. He had peaked and PSU wants to win it all. JF showed he wasn't going to get them there. Now is it more likely they plummet into oblivion vs keep getting better? Probably but the gamble makes sense.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 2:17 pm to notsince98
Franklin's crime was letting Oregon blow the season. We face the same challenge tomorrow vs Auburn. In reality you could swap Franklin and Drink and get the same thing. Both trusted their QBs to be up to the task and both were let down. But, finding "the guy" at QB is probably the most challenging thing for a coach in all sports.
Hell, if Drink left, Mizzou signing Franklin would probably be as cohesive a hire that could be made. The coach that keeps Zollars probably goes further but who knows.
Hell, if Drink left, Mizzou signing Franklin would probably be as cohesive a hire that could be made. The coach that keeps Zollars probably goes further but who knows.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 2:49 pm to surgicalvenom
Only slight difference in QB situation is Drink took a chance on his current QB. JF should have known everything about Allar since he is a multi-year starter. JF had zero unknowns with his QB situation.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 2:58 pm to surgicalvenom
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Mizzou signing Franklin
Hard pass.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 10/17/25 at 3:36 pm to notsince98
But in all fairness, in 2023 Cook threw a bad pick 6 vs LSU and an interception to a nose guard vs UGA costing that team a CFP spot. Shouldn't Drink be accountable for not recognizing that this was not the QB to get to the next level?
Posted on 10/17/25 at 4:31 pm to surgicalvenom
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But in all fairness, in 2023 Cook threw a bad pick 6 vs LSU and an interception to a nose guard vs UGA costing that team a CFP spot. Shouldn't Drink be accountable for not recognizing that this was not the QB to get to the next level?
You won’t get much disagreement from me. Drink just doesn’t have the big wins under his belt to justify his current salary. We are paying him based on hope and potential right now.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 5:36 pm to notsince98
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You won’t get much disagreement from me. Drink just doesn’t have the big wins under his belt to justify his current salary. We are paying him based on hope and potential right now.
Common denominator has always been the QB room. He’s done amazing things for our RB room, our WR room, and our Dline room. Yea, our DB room needs work (I think that’s a coaching issue where we clearly don’t have the guy we need).
But QB runs the show. If Drink ever had a legit QB talent, he’d be stacking wins at fricking Mizzou and making the rant wankers kiss themselves.
Unluckily for us, he’s failed every time there so far.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 7:15 pm to navynuke
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He'd have to be just as relentless coaching at Penn State. Franklin went from final four of the CFBP to unemployed in 10 months. He got them as close to a natty as they have been in decades and all it took was 3 losses. Im not sure that decision makes it a very desirable position for anyone not named Matt Rhule.
This. I love Drink, I am a Drink dude. I am not worried about him leaving at all. Has family in Joplin, from Arkansas with family still in-state.
Throw in the fact that he will get nowhere near the leeway he has received at Mizzou. You think PSU and their fans would be good with:
5-5
6-7
6-7
For his first three seasons? Obviously, there is no telling what would happen if he took the position. But, my point is that he had 3 bad seasons (by my standards anyway) and we stayed with our guy. We supported him and now he is on his way to doing something amazing at Mizzou. Drink obviously realizes he built this, and I am sure is smart enough to realize that there is really no reason to do it again. Keep the train on the tracks and beat the piss out of Auburn. M-I-Z!
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