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re: Let’s Talk About How Bad Drink is at Evaluating Talent
Posted on 9/10/23 at 11:46 am to Broz1839
Posted on 9/10/23 at 11:46 am to Broz1839
Yeah. They own 7 Imo’s and a couple Sugarfire.
Unless they’re the highest performing Imo’s, that’s probably not going to give the cash flow necessary to buy a starting QB job.
They also have a development company doing multi-use developments in St Louis area and Northwest Arkansas. Their listed revenue is under $5M for that venture.
I’m sure they’re doing very well. I don’t think they have the money necessary to buy an SEC QB job for a program.
Unless they’re the highest performing Imo’s, that’s probably not going to give the cash flow necessary to buy a starting QB job.
They also have a development company doing multi-use developments in St Louis area and Northwest Arkansas. Their listed revenue is under $5M for that venture.
I’m sure they’re doing very well. I don’t think they have the money necessary to buy an SEC QB job for a program.
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Posted on 9/10/23 at 2:45 pm to the808bass
Cook gonna be a 3 year starter and never have a game with 300 yards passing
Posted on 9/10/23 at 2:54 pm to mizslu314
Not gonna happen guys. Fan support has eroded. Drink is done after this year. The defense is already losing alot due to graduation. Keeping Drink and Cook makes a mass transfer portal exit on the offense. We wouldn't recover.
The pieces are there, we just need keadership.
The pieces are there, we just need keadership.
Posted on 9/10/23 at 3:49 pm to the808bass
I don’t think he was ready to be a SEC coach. He was 37 when he got the job and he is learning as he goes. I think when looking for a coach 4 years ago the athletic department didn’t want to spend $6 to $7 million on a coach that might leave after a few years or pay a coach they fired.
By hiring a “talented offensive minded young coach” the AD thought they would have more control over the program. The first few years of Drink is what they expected or better. They knew he would make some bad decisions, but would learn as he goes.
He is probably going to be here for awhile.
Most of post are about how he his bad evaluating talent and game day coaching. Those are just a few things he has to fix. A few of my problems is that he seems to coach not to lose and his defensive remarks after games/not taking responsibility for decisions he made. The worst problem is playing Cook. When Bazelak QB most of us did want him to play Cook.
He does have some good attributes to go along with his bad. Most of his good has come from off the field decisions. He is a good salesman
1. Drink has a done a good job hiring assistant coaches.
2. Him and his staff has done a better job at recruiting in-state(ESL too)players than past coaches.
3. For some reason he has helped sell more tickets to home games
4. Over the last year he helped get more NIL money than I thought he could
5. He helped make a big push for the state NIL law
He is still young and can get better at on the field play calling. One of the reasons he was hired was for his offensive mind and his offense has been bad for 3 years, but he has not had a regular season losing record and that’s not bad for a new Mizzou coach that was left with very little offensive talent especially in the SEC.
I’m not even close to 100% sold on Drink. I do think he will get better, but so do most young coaches.
Pinkel was 51 when he had his 1st winning season and 53 when he had his 2nd winning season at Mizzou. Pinkel’s 1st 3 seasons he was 17-19 the same as Drink.
I got really excited early with Pinkel. I went to the bowl game his 3rd year and watched his team play terrible and lose to Arkansas. After losing to Kansas and having a losing record the next season like a lot of fans I was ready for him to be fired.
By hiring a “talented offensive minded young coach” the AD thought they would have more control over the program. The first few years of Drink is what they expected or better. They knew he would make some bad decisions, but would learn as he goes.
He is probably going to be here for awhile.
Most of post are about how he his bad evaluating talent and game day coaching. Those are just a few things he has to fix. A few of my problems is that he seems to coach not to lose and his defensive remarks after games/not taking responsibility for decisions he made. The worst problem is playing Cook. When Bazelak QB most of us did want him to play Cook.
He does have some good attributes to go along with his bad. Most of his good has come from off the field decisions. He is a good salesman
1. Drink has a done a good job hiring assistant coaches.
2. Him and his staff has done a better job at recruiting in-state(ESL too)players than past coaches.
3. For some reason he has helped sell more tickets to home games
4. Over the last year he helped get more NIL money than I thought he could
5. He helped make a big push for the state NIL law
He is still young and can get better at on the field play calling. One of the reasons he was hired was for his offensive mind and his offense has been bad for 3 years, but he has not had a regular season losing record and that’s not bad for a new Mizzou coach that was left with very little offensive talent especially in the SEC.
I’m not even close to 100% sold on Drink. I do think he will get better, but so do most young coaches.
Pinkel was 51 when he had his 1st winning season and 53 when he had his 2nd winning season at Mizzou. Pinkel’s 1st 3 seasons he was 17-19 the same as Drink.
I got really excited early with Pinkel. I went to the bowl game his 3rd year and watched his team play terrible and lose to Arkansas. After losing to Kansas and having a losing record the next season like a lot of fans I was ready for him to be fired.
This post was edited on 9/10/23 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 9/10/23 at 4:05 pm to MizzouBS
The difference is with the transfer portal its harder to develop talent. Coaches have to be willing to change lineups to find the best GameDay players. You win now or lose your best recruits to the portal. If Bama, Mississippi, Auburn, Georgia can switch QBs to find the best GameDay player then there is no reason for Drink to dig in and sacrifice play.
Posted on 9/10/23 at 4:21 pm to surgicalvenom
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then there is no reason for Drink to dig in and sacrifice play.
I think he is afraid of losing. When Saban switched to Tua over Hurts he knew that was his best chance of winning. I don’t think early in his career he would have done that. He had the confidence in his decision even if Tua would have lost he would still have the support from the AD and the fans. He makes his decisions to win.
Drink wouldn’t do that because he is afraid of making a bad decision and it costing him the game
This post was edited on 9/10/23 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 9/10/23 at 4:42 pm to MizzouBS
"3. For some reason he has helped sell more tickets to home games
4. Over the last year he helped get more NIL money than I thought he could
5. He helped make a big push for the state NIL law"
It was the AD. She is the one doing most of that stuff not Drinkwitz. He might have done a tiny bit, but it was the AD doing it the most and she has done a fantastic job so far.
4. Over the last year he helped get more NIL money than I thought he could
5. He helped make a big push for the state NIL law"
It was the AD. She is the one doing most of that stuff not Drinkwitz. He might have done a tiny bit, but it was the AD doing it the most and she has done a fantastic job so far.
This post was edited on 9/10/23 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 9/10/23 at 4:48 pm to TrueLefty
Desiree is not putting up with his shenanigans I saw interview with her ..she believes in recognizing talent and nurturing it...I don't see that with Drink we've been spoiled with great QBs in the past ..fans aren't buying it
Posted on 9/10/23 at 5:10 pm to TrueLefty
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It was the AD. She is the one doing most of that stuff not Drinkwitz. He might have done a tiny bit, but it was the AD doing it the most and she has done a fantastic job so far.
It’s not her. But she’s doing a good job.
Posted on 9/10/23 at 7:11 pm to the808bass
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It’s not her. But she’s doing a good job.
Football coaches worked a lot with State Representative Kurtis Gregory to help pass the new NIL Law in Missouri. A lot fans have forgot about him or don’t know who he is.
Gregory started around 40 games for Mizzou. In 2007 he was the starting guard for the best OL and offense in the country.
Posted on 9/10/23 at 11:44 pm to MizzouBS
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He is still young and can get better at on the field play calling. One of the reasons he was hired was for his offensive mind and his offense has been bad for 3 years, but he has not had a regular season losing record and that’s not bad for a new Mizzou coach that was left with very little offensive talent especially in the SEC.
After calming down a bit (facilitated by beer, gin, and wine and a beautiful hint of fall fire pit this evening), the knot in my stomach is lessening and I’m trying to gain perspective. Drinkwitz may someday be a decent coach, but he is over his head at the moment. The SEC is not a proving ground. He’s simply not the guy for us right now. Frankly I don’t know who is but no one is offering me DRF money to figure it out. We’ve got to move on. I’m getting older and I have only so many rebuilding years left in me.
BTW…I’m a season ticket holder and will attend EVERY game this season no matter how bad it gets, so I’m not just talkin’ out my arse here. I’m staying invested!
Posted on 9/11/23 at 12:58 am to the808bass
When she told memphis and mtsu where we were going to play games and none of them were on their fields and they could either take a check and stfu or gtfo our schedule she won me over.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:32 am to MIzzouMark
Is there anyone communicating with Drinkwitz right now about his football team playing poorly on offense? Why wasn't he not able to make adjustments and why not give other quarterbacks a chance/ more reps? Who will be the one communicating to Drinkwitz about those things? Also, the fans are showing their frustration so far. That shouldn't ever happen since he refuses to listen to fans about the situation at quarterback and the lack of downfield throws. A HC should give an explanation and there was little, or none was given.
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 1:38 am
Posted on 9/11/23 at 9:48 am to TrueLefty
Yes. With our current offensive line play we definitely need an immobile, pocket quarterback!
You know, someone to stand there for 3-4 seconds to make sure he finds those receivers 80 yards downfield.
Brilliant.
Wish I would have thought of that.
You know, someone to stand there for 3-4 seconds to make sure he finds those receivers 80 yards downfield.
Brilliant.
Wish I would have thought of that.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:05 am to JBlutarsky
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Yes. With our current offensive line play we definitely need an immobile, pocket quarterback!
You know, someone to stand there for 3-4 seconds to make sure he finds those receivers 80 yards downfield.
Here were Sam Horn's high school senior stats:
Rushing: 62 carries, 621 yards (Avg: 10 ypc), 7 TDs, Long of 70 ...
Here's was Cooks stats his senior year:
Rushing: 51 carries, 375 yards (Avg: 7.4 ypc), 3 TDs, long of 39 ...
Horn played at 7A in Georgia and won the state championship while Cook played at 5A in MO and finished with an 8-4 record ...
It's just weird how the narrative doesn't match the stats from their careers ...
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:16 am to JBlutarsky
Horn can move like Drake Maye if he’s allowed to flourish. So STFU ya dumb SoB.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:25 am to JBlutarsky
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Yes. With our current offensive line play we definitely need an immobile, pocket quarterback!
You know, someone to stand there for 3-4 seconds to make sure he finds those receivers 80 yards downfield.
Brilliant.
Wish I would have thought of that.
Considering your love for Drink, maybe you should sit this out for a while.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:31 am to notsince98
I don't have any "love" for Drink.
I'm basing my comment off what I saw in the first game.
If y'all think Horn is a mobile, running quarterback that's fine. From what I've seen that's not the case.
I'm basing my comment off what I saw in the first game.
If y'all think Horn is a mobile, running quarterback that's fine. From what I've seen that's not the case.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:32 am to AmishSamurai
Now do college stats.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:35 am to JBlutarsky
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Now do college stats.
Listen, Drink.
Play the kid and we can actually get a comparison ...
And since you based what Horn can do off of Game 1, based on Game 2 ... Cook doesn't even have the speed to outrun MTSU lineman/linebackers so he's gonna get murdered in SEC play if we think we have the next coming of Cam Newton in him ...
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 10:41 am
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