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re: Let’s Talk About How Bad Drink is at Evaluating Talent

Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:32 am to
Posted by JBlutarsky
Member since Mar 2016
361 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:32 am to
I think your sock has a hole in it.

If you think high school stats automatically carry over to college your dumber than your comment.

If you couldn't see that Horn was tentative, slow, looked confused, played like a deer in headlights then you're not only stupid you're blind.

Why do people keep ignoring what the coaching staff (and Chase Daniel) have seen in practice?

Sam Horn may be a great quarterback at Mizzou. He's not there yet.

Why would you subject him to our sieve of an offensive line at this point in his career? Because you hate Brady Cook?

Who knows, maybe Drink will start Horn and let him play the entire game against k-State. If we're going to lose anyway (which everyone has already decided) then put him in and let him get his arse kicked repeatedly to shut you dumb frickers up about it.
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
2663 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 12:27 pm to
Let's look back at the thread title ...

"Let's Talk About How Bad Drink is at Evaluating Talent"

Then you assume and explain that I don't know much about college football recruiting, talent evaluation, etc. Sure, Jan. You have no idea who I am but let's just say I know a lot more about it than you think ...

Anyway, the point is and was ... Drink and the coaching staff (who are just his synchophants at this point) ARE BAD AT TALENT EVALUATION ...

As to starting Horn for K-State, that would be the right answer (since yes I think we're going to lose anyway) ... it would take all the pressure off him from the fan base and would be a win-win for him ... see I tried it, Horn threw 3 picks and we lost by 28 instead of 21 ...

But we've beaten this horse to death. Drink is a chicken shite coach who won't be on the sideline next year when he has lost the fanbase, regardless of posting another 6-6 record ...

An initial coaching committee is already underway as Mizzou athletics can't lose the revenue from football ... the extension play was the same as what happened with Cuonzo (shore up commits/recruits, assess transfers, etc) ... and Cuonzo was gone the following year after the extension ...because he lost the fanbase ...

All Drink had to do was shut his mouth and give Horn (or Garcia) a chance in these last 2 games but he's too arrogant and stupid to understand it at all ...
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 12:33 pm
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5366 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 12:56 pm to
I agree to a point. Yes Horn looked tentative but...

Football coaches do the oddest thing. They develop depth everywhere except QB. The starter gets almost all the practice snaps, so no one else develops.

If Horn was made the starter and got more practice snaps, he would look better in games.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5836 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:05 pm to
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Now do college stats.


Last year Horn had 1 rush for 10 yards for an average of 10 yards a carry.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111524 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

average of 10 yards a carry

Check mate.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14934 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

I don't have any "love" for Drink.

I'm basing my comment off what I saw in the first game.

If y'all think Horn is a mobile, running quarterback that's fine. From what I've seen that's not the case.

How about did Horn get equal reps in practice? I doubt it. That is why you saw how he was in that one game.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5836 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

How about did Horn get equal reps in practice? I doubt it. That is why you saw how he was in that one game.


Tollison and Horn were not on the same page.
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
6745 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:34 pm to
Hey, at least now we know that Cooks torn Labrum had virtually no effect on his ability to throw a football.
Posted by JBlutarsky
Member since Mar 2016
361 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:58 am to
Why no stats from THIS year?

Because he's had 3 rushes for -1 yard.

That puts him at 4 rushes for 9 yards in his career.

This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 8:58 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111524 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:27 am to
You cracked the code!!
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
6745 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:44 am to
The point is this: Cook is not getting it done. Drink has nothing to lose by playing his 4 star recruit QB. The worst that happens is he proves Drink right. Because no one believes what Drink says.

Frankly, the only way Drink keeps his job is if Horn proves him wrong. Think about that.

It may well be too late anyway.
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 12:07 pm
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
2663 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Frankly, the only way Drink keeps his job is if Horn proves him wrong.


Based on thread title, I think that does him in ...

Let's say he switches to Horn and kid balls out to 9+ win season ...

If I'm AD, after that first press conference, post game comment, dissmissive attitude towards reporters/ fans, etc. ... I fire him anyway.

Drink is in a no win situation unless Horn, Garcia, etc. fail ... or Brady Cook suddenly becomes the second coming of Joe Montana ...

Drink has 100% lost the fan base ... there were multiple times on both Saturdays where Faurot faithful were booing, loudly and often ... even after simple 3 and outs ...

He's finished and he'll get his payout and an OC job in the MAC and be perfectly content ...

[Note: I don't think it is a plausible scenario where Horn (or Garcia) leads this team to a 9 win season ... the Offensive scheme is terrible, same as 2022, and only way we win 6+ games is if the defense puts the offense on their back as in 2021, 2022 ...]

This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 12:34 pm
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15972 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:37 pm to
I didn't want to start a new thread for this

we're currently worse than we were in the final week of the 2022 according to sp+

Final ranking for 2022:
40th, off ranked #74th, def ranked #19th ST ranked #38th

ranking as of week 2:
46th, off ranked #64, def ranked #25, ST ranked #118-FFS
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 2:37 pm
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17991 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:52 pm to
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46th, off ranked #64


this should go in the official Drink support thread.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111524 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

the Offensive scheme is terrible


It’s Drinkwitz’s.

He was forced to hire an OC. He did. It’s still his offense.

It’s going to be his arrogance that is his undoing, almost certainly.
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
6745 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:25 pm to
Gabe Dearmond numbers: Drinks 2021 recruiting class.

23 total signees, national rank of 19

2 starting
2 in rotation
16 (!) have left.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5366 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:59 pm to
What???? That's impossible.
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5893 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:46 pm to
Is this real?
Posted by GalacticaCannon
Member since Aug 2022
2922 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:38 pm to
The 21 class was ranked 26 by 247 composite, not 19. So that’s already wrong.

But we did lose:

Lovett
Macon
Wingo
Ford
Butts
Perkins

To name just a few.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5836 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:41 pm to
A few ran out of Eligibility
These 7 are still here and there might be a few more
1. Ndoma-Ogar
2, Hicks
3. Cooper
4. Wilson
5. Carnell
6. Hibbler
7. Hoerstkamp

This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 6:42 am
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