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How long 'til we lose Pinkel

Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:31 am
Posted by panzerfahre
Kirksville, Mo
Member since Oct 2013
1472 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:31 am
The wife and I were talking about coaching issues in college and pro teams. Pinkel has achieved a level of greatness that will last for decades and keep in our school history forever.

So when does he go. Does he leave while we are on top, or stay until we start sucking it?

If we win the SEC this year, I think Pinkel hits the door in the next season or two. Probably to take the HC job at pro team in need of rebuilding. Possibly Houston.

If we don't win the SEC this year, I think he will stay for up to four years to try winning it.

Thoughts?
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:33 am to
I don't see him coaching anywhere else. How old is he? I see him sticking around a couple more years or so and grooming Henson. Could be wrong.
Posted by Rodeonaut
Member since Nov 2013
810 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:34 am to
He's in his 60s. Mizzou is his baby. He's not leaving it until he retires.
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5251 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:37 am to
quote:

He's in his 60s. Mizzou is his baby. He's not leaving it until he retires.


This is it, will retire a Tiger
Posted by panzerfahre
Kirksville, Mo
Member since Oct 2013
1472 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:38 am to
That would be good.

My wife is convinced we lose him within a season or two because of the NFL's need for some new coaching blood. I'm not sure. I think he could make that jump - but not until after winning the SEC and a natty.

Posted by TrueSon2014
Member since Jan 2013
373 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 10:02 am to
While i think he is a great coach, I think his strength is developing talent.

Just look at the stars our athletes are given on Rivals. 2*-3*'s, Mathematically we should not be competing to the level we are right now let alone a SEC level. Pinkel coaches up his players and gets them to preform their best. Not saying it couldnt happen in the NFL just saying i think his strongest part of what he does is recruit players he calls "boys" he knows he can develop into "men" a football studs. A few years ago the blue chips came calling and he stayed true to Mizzou, and thats the way I see him going out to, HCGP TrueSon Through and Through.

JMO
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9441 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 10:03 am to
We're not losing Pinkel. Much like Saban, he's too old to start over somewhere else. Pinkel will retire at Mizzou.
Posted by zou_keeper
St Louis
Member since Jan 2012
1571 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 10:07 am to
quote:

He's in his 60s. Mizzou is his baby. He's not leaving it until he retires.

Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9441 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 10:10 am to
Ah, I see you're also procrastinating, brother. Good work.
Posted by ZouTigers
St Louis
Member since Nov 2012
179 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 10:34 am to
He's 61, under contract through the age of 65.
He's making roughly $2.5 million per. Sometimes a higher figure is quoted.

Assistants in the NFL don't make more than $2 million per usually.
Posted by MIZ_STL
ABQ
Member since Sep 2013
1336 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 10:56 am to
quote:

He's in his 60s. Mizzou is his baby. He's not leaving it until he retires.

+1
Posted by ZouDerrty
Dallas,TX
Member since Jul 2012
250 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 11:05 am to
He already told Ohio St a couple years back when they were looking no.....and him and alden are home boys so I doubt he will ever leave.
Posted by MizzouJim
Member since Nov 2013
419 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 11:07 am to
We will not lose him until his retirement. A few things:

1. He doesn't have the time left in his coaching to rebuild or reform a new program in his image.

2. The NFL is high risk and low reward given his position and salary at Mizzou. Even a salary that doubles what he makes wouldn't make him leave, considering that he could be a 2 or 3 year NFL head coach if he isn't successful. Compare that to being set for the rest of the life at a place he loves and has carefully crafted in his image at Mizzou.

3. He wants very badly to cement his legacy at Mizzou and retire here is the winningest coach by far.

4. He experienced a national championship while on staff with Don James at Washington, who was very much a father figure to him. Especially with Coach James' death, I think he would like very badly to win a national championship at Mizzou, and know that he's built a program that will last based on those shared values as an homage to his mentor.

4. Personal redemption is a strong motivator for him to put some years of success between himself and last year. This year is evidence of that.

It would not surprise me to see him coach until he's 67 or 68, given his health holding up.
Posted by zou_keeper
St Louis
Member since Jan 2012
1571 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Ah, I see you're also procrastinating, brother. Good work.


it's getting bad
Posted by Stlox
Maryland Heights, MO
Member since Jul 2013
795 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 12:19 pm to
I agree with Jim.

However, I see us losing some assistants. Stec wants to be an HC, and he's running out of time. I could see him go somewhere else next year.

I don't see Henson leaving yet. He needs another year or two at OC to pad his resume, or seek Pinkels job at retirement.
Posted by Mizzou23
Missouri
Member since Mar 2012
1979 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:22 pm to
If Pinkel wanted to leave he would have taken the Notre Dame interview before they hired Kelly.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4039 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 6:48 pm to
I'm sorry, I don't see the NFL as a option for him.
Posted by FightTigers
Missourah
Member since Oct 2011
2693 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 7:13 pm to
No offense to HCGP but he is not an NFL coach at this point. I think he retires from mizzou when gets burnt out.
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 7:46 pm to
I'm so jealous with your stability in regards to head coaches. For the past decade, we've had so many issues. I think Freeze will have some staying power, but consider yourselves very fortunate to have consistency. Hell, why do you think Bauer changed his mind? (that kid seems like a class act).

Good luck this weekend, and I hope y'all win out.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63853 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

Just look at the stars our athletes are given on Rivals. 2*-3*'s, Mathematically we should not be competing to the level we are right now let alone a SEC level.


Those rankings are subjective. Once Mizzou proves themselfves, ie as of now, those 2 stars become 3 stars, and those 3 stars become 4 stars, as soon as word hits the wire that Mizzou offered a kid.

They call it the Bama Bump because it's more obvious when Bama offers a kid, his rankings immediately jump, and the fact one of the major recruiting services accidentally admitted that it's true.... but it's not just Bama. Any big shot program that offers a kid with low rating, immediately gets a bump from the rating service, the rating services assume the professionals saw something in the kids that they didn't, for whatever reason.

Mizzou's recruiting rankings will mysteriously climb this year and going forward, but it won't be because Mizzou suddenly started recruiting better, it will be because you've finally earned enough respect to rub off on the kids you are targetting.

This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 8:15 pm
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