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Thoughts on Kerwin Bell as OC?

Posted on 10/28/13 at 8:58 pm
Posted by gatordmb89
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 8:58 pm
Just wanted to make a thread about this on our home board. It has been discussed a ton on a few other Gator boards, and it was only a matter of time until it was brought here.

Personally, I have never been a huge Bell fan, but IMO this hire is almost a necessity for Muschamp. Bell's offenses have been really good wherever he has been, and his scheme is very vertical, but multiple. I am done with the whole needing to "prove" yourself at a high level after Weis and Pease, then seeing what Malzahn, Freeze, and Morris have accomplished after being removed from the HS ranks.

This hire would do just what Muschamp needs IMO. Bring excitement to Gator Nation, an OC that is multiple and balanced, and also someone who can develop QB's. It is a win/win to me.

Thoughts?
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 9:06 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:00 pm to
This was brought up in another thread, but I'm all for it.

Bell is an unknown to Gator opponents in CFB, and hes a die-hard Gator at heart.

No issues with me.
Posted by BasedGator
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:34 pm to
I still have no idea how good he really is. I think a lot of people have created a legend about him because they think he is the second-coming of Spurrier.

I'd also question if Muschamp would be willing to let him run his real offense. If he did, I'd probably rather us get a proven Air-raid guy, but I think we could do worse than Kerwin.
Posted by gatordmb89
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:35 pm to
Kerwin isn't an "air-raid" guy though. His offenses are actually pretty balanced.
Posted by BasedGator
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:48 pm to
Modern air raid offenses like West Virginia and Ok State are pretty balanced too. West Virginia has run it 47% of the times. I imagine Kerwin's offense has a similar 60/40 pass/run ratio.
Posted by gatordmb89
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:49 pm to
Gotcha.
Posted by 08Gatorbait
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 2:15 am to
Don't know. He hasn't done this at a major college level so I'm still torn. If he is good I'd love it always liked the guy. But if the choice is him or a proven oc...is rather take proven
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 6:04 am to
quote:

Don't know. He hasn't done this at a major college level so I'm still torn


I see your point, although some of the smaller school guys have done pretty well at the BCS-level (Chip Kelly from NH to oregon, for example).

quote:

If he is good I'd love it always liked the guy. But if the choice is him or a proven oc...is rather take proven


Fair enough, and I still kind of lean this way too.
Posted by bengalbait
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 9:16 am to
All homerism aside, I think the one thing that would suffer right away from this hire would be recruiting of top level receivers and RBs. Why come to a program with an unproven OC when you could go to elsewhere and shine.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 9:18 am to
Why would any of those top recruits come now with Pease calling the shots?
Posted by bengalbait
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 9:25 am to
I don't mean with Pease still at the helm but rather a bigger name more proven OC over Bell.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 11:45 am to
What bigger name is available?

Kerwin would sell his passion, game film at JU and stats at JU to recruits. It's what all new coordinators do to sway recruits. That doesn't worry me a bit.

I'm all for Kerwin and wouldn't feel bad if he didn't pan out. We could use his love of UF and balanced attack right now.
Posted by olemc999
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

He hasn't done this at a major college level so I'm still torn.


Art Briles never did either and look at what he is doing.
Posted by austingator
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 2:45 pm to
Nobody can be worse than Pease.

And Kerwin made Brantley look good, so he has to be good no?
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 10/29/13 at 7:57 pm to
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Kerwin made Brantley look good


Yep. Amazing, honestly.
Posted by cornhat
Member since Feb 2011
3393 posts
Posted on 10/29/13 at 8:06 pm to
Dmb: Some Nole fan on the SEC rant just said today Cook and Lane to FSU or Miami is a greater possibility with our offensive woes. Troll or legit?
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 10/29/13 at 8:23 pm to
My suggestion would be not to listen to TheOcean in regards to anything that involves UF.

UF feels very good about where they stand with both Cook and Lane.

FSU is pushing the Winston angle on all these HS SR's, but the coaching staffs are pretty darn smart. The rebuttal is simple, "you want to go play 1 year with Winston?"
Posted by 08Gatorbait
Member since Jul 2013
2316 posts
Posted on 10/29/13 at 8:54 pm to
I played at Trinity my first year in high school

We had 2 black kids that year in the school

I went back three years later, there are gang signs spray painted on cars in the parking lot. I went to the middle school connected with Trinity before that(Blessed Trinity) and we had almost no black students. Iggy. We had Iggy in my 8th grade..that was all.

yet the high school that couldn't score a TD it's first year was suddenly a state power, and had 20 percent african american's in the school, almost every one played sports.

Which of course, leads to the obvious conclusion if you are from Ocala and know the area...the coaches at Trinity paid to get these guys. Trust me. I went to the church, for 8 years. I went to the school for four. There are almost no black members. The school was also expensive if you didn't go to the church and have financial backing from father pat.

So if he is cheating in high school...that is not a good start. Yes I know they cheated btw..Ocala is a small town. You hear enough to know what's going on.
This post was edited on 10/29/13 at 8:55 pm
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 10/29/13 at 9:06 pm to
Not taking up for Kerwin or anything, because I don't know if he cheated or not.

With that being said, Florida High School Football is one of, if not the dirtiest states there is in regards to cheating, etc.
Posted by 08Gatorbait
Member since Jul 2013
2316 posts
Posted on 10/29/13 at 9:17 pm to
I don't know about other high schools really. But I know in the Ocala area, no one else but Trinity was thought to have been cheating. I mean they went from worst to first in two years. And the population change that hadn't happened since the church and school founded all in that two years time was...alarming. But then again the rich in Ocala were at Trinity. School had serious money to deal with...great place to sell coke too my no longer friend found out lol.
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