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re: OK everyone who wants Mullen fired, what then? Who do we hire?
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:17 am to Talon95
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:17 am to Talon95
I think some of yall need to go look at our past records. You remember Urban had a couple of crappy seasons right? When he had to coach with John Brantley (his recruit, by the way) instead of Tebow suddenly his stress level is unmanageable and he has to "retire". No thanks on Urban Meyer.
At least Mullen has us playing competitive nearly every game. Even the years Muschamp and McElwain were winning the east the teams looked terrible. Remember the McElwain post game interviews? Like he was always surprised we won a game?
He certainly needs to change some things, but we might just have to admit UGA got lucky landing Kirby Smart. And even he has had a few rough seasons. Next year the narrative on him may very well change right back to "good recruiter, bad developer of talent" just like it was before.
We all knew going into this year it might be rough and the schedule lined up in Georgia's favor.
At least Mullen has us playing competitive nearly every game. Even the years Muschamp and McElwain were winning the east the teams looked terrible. Remember the McElwain post game interviews? Like he was always surprised we won a game?
He certainly needs to change some things, but we might just have to admit UGA got lucky landing Kirby Smart. And even he has had a few rough seasons. Next year the narrative on him may very well change right back to "good recruiter, bad developer of talent" just like it was before.
We all knew going into this year it might be rough and the schedule lined up in Georgia's favor.
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:25 am to HTXGator
In general the Fire Mullen talk is premature. he does need to make some coaching staff changes, recruit better and decide what the Gator standard is and how to live up to it. But it's to early for a change right now.
Talk to me about a coaching change if things done improve by 2024.
Talk to me about a coaching change if things done improve by 2024.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:15 pm to UFMatt
Yeah, this year is already shot for recruiting but he can still save the 2023 class. And revamping the staff should take 2 years.
2022 - New assistants means new schemes.
2023 - Perfecting the schemes and evaluations at season’s end.
2024 - Dan saves his job or we have a new head coach.
2022 - New assistants means new schemes.
2023 - Perfecting the schemes and evaluations at season’s end.
2024 - Dan saves his job or we have a new head coach.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 2:59 pm to finchmeister08
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Yeah, this year is already shot for recruiting but he can still save the 2023 class. And revamping the staff should take 2 years.
2022 - New assistants means new schemes.
2023 - Perfecting the schemes and evaluations at season’s end.
2024 - Dan saves his job or we have a new head coach.
I agree with this timetable.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 6:14 pm to finchmeister08
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Yeah, this year is already shot for recruiting but he can still save the 2023 class. And revamping the staff should take 2 years.
2022 - New assistants means new schemes.
2023 - Perfecting the schemes and evaluations at season’s end.
2024 - Dan saves his job or we have a new head coach.
Mullen's has next season to have this team turned around or he will be gone imo. 5 years is plenty of time to have had things squared away with your own recruited players. If he is 1-4 against Georgia next season and loses a couple of others that should be it. Not acceptable at UF with Georgia recruiting how they are and getting the benefit of a much easier SEC East schedule.
Kirby Smart will be 11-1+ pre-SECCG 4 of the last 5 years which shows you can't have recruiting where it is at with Florida right now.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 11/4/21 at 6:14 pm to UFMatt
Just a reminder despite all the bad luck and the defensive incompetence and the issues snapping the ball without a false start lol UF is #11 in total offense even after playing Georgia.
If he can solve his DC problem Uf suddenly has a much higher ceiling with him as coach.
I just wonder if he has the ability to sort it out.
If he can solve his DC problem Uf suddenly has a much higher ceiling with him as coach.
I just wonder if he has the ability to sort it out.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 8:57 am to slayerxing
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I just wonder if he has the ability to sort it out.
Pride and loyalty are usually great attributes, to a point then, like it or not you have to make changes, part with old friends and swallow your pride if what you are doing is not working. Can Coach Mullen do this??? His future at UF may depend on the answer to this question.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:18 am to finchmeister08
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eah, this year is already shot for recruiting but he can still save the 2023 class. And revamping the staff should take 2 years.
2022 - New assistants means new schemes.
2023 - Perfecting the schemes and evaluations at season’s end.
2024 - Dan saves his job or we have a new head coach.
In my humble opinion, I don’t think UF can wait that long. You’re just allowing UGA to continue to grow. That could be 16 years since your last SEC title if he doesn’t figure it out.
But on the flip side, UGA had that ten year gap with Richt and turned things around pretty fast with Smart.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:36 am to Porter Osborne Jr
i agree, but there just isn't really anyone out there right now that's willing to put in the time that Saban/Smart/Dabo/Day do. at least i can't think of one. in my opinion, mullen knows the Xs and Os. he just needs to get out of his mindset that he's the greatest to ever do it with nothing to show for it.
if he wants to leave, then leave. but replacing him whether we fire him or he leaves on his own is going to really suck for who we could get. i don't even know if kiffin can recruit like saban/smart.
if he wants to leave, then leave. but replacing him whether we fire him or he leaves on his own is going to really suck for who we could get. i don't even know if kiffin can recruit like saban/smart.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:45 am to finchmeister08
I know this is the Gator board so this is not meant as an insult, but you guys are starting to sound like us at the end of the Richt years. He was still winning a ton of games but could never break the ceiling. Most of us were afraid to get rid of him because we were nervous about turning into Tennessee but once the band aid was ripped off it's been a fun ride. But there is always the risk of turning into UT or FSU but your admin seems to be better than either of theirs.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:51 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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In my humble opinion, I don’t think UF can wait that long. You’re just allowing UGA to continue to grow. That could be 16 years since your last SEC title if he doesn’t figure it out.
But on the flip side, UGA had that ten year gap with Richt and turned things around pretty fast with Smart.
Smart was set up talent wise to compete in 2017. Richt's last 2 classes were decent top 10 classes and then Smart had a # 3 and a # 6 class going into that season. Smart has been matching Saban since then recruiting wise.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:55 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Thanks for the input, Peter. not that I read it or anything but I am certain it was enlightening. 
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:11 pm to Gator Fever
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Smart was set up talent wise to compete in 2017. Richt's last 2 classes were decent top 10 classes and then Smart had a # 3 and a # 6 class going into that season. Smart has been matching Saban since then recruiting wise.
All very true. There were some deficiencies in one of those classes but the class with Chubb, Smith, and Michel was legit. The transfer portal can help mediate some of that for UF though.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:12 pm to UFMatt
Anytime UFMutt 
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:25 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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In my humble opinion, I don’t think UF can wait that long. You’re just allowing UGA to continue to grow.
Not only UGA. UT looks better under Heupel. Stoops/UK have Mullen’s number. Meanwhile, we’re not improving in any aspect. Mullen almost snapped our 30+ year no shut out streak. He’s a good OC, average head coach.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:27 pm to gatorsimz
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UT looks better under Heupel
God help us all if those asshats figure it out. Their fans will be unbearable. Much like UGA fans of 2017
Posted on 11/5/21 at 3:01 pm to bigDgator
Chris Peterson
Posted on 11/5/21 at 3:39 pm to GatorOnAnIsland
That dude isn't leaving the PNW to coach in Florida. His son has a medical condition and the best doctor for him is in Boise which is why he stayed there so long. He's not coming out of retirement and across the country.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 5:58 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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That dude isn't leaving the PNW to coach in Florida.
Well ok then, how about Chris Peterson?
Posted on 11/5/21 at 8:07 pm to GatorOnAnIsland
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