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Here’s an interesting thought...
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:30 am
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:30 am
With us only being 3 games into the season, we could have Franks for 2 more seasons.
I really hate it for the dude, but.... should we move on?
That’s a lot of experience to lose but you gotta think about how Emory might feel/do. Or any future QB we recruit.
I really hate it for the dude, but.... should we move on?
That’s a lot of experience to lose but you gotta think about how Emory might feel/do. Or any future QB we recruit.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:33 am to finchmeister08
I think he'll end up transferring tbh. I didn't see him staying after this season without the injury.
That said, I guess how the season turns out could have a lot to do with his decision. If Trask lights it up and Emory gets good reps in and cements himself as the guy next year, I feel FF may move on. But, if it all goes to shite, then...
That said, I guess how the season turns out could have a lot to do with his decision. If Trask lights it up and Emory gets good reps in and cements himself as the guy next year, I feel FF may move on. But, if it all goes to shite, then...
This post was edited on 9/15/19 at 1:39 am
Posted on 9/15/19 at 2:35 am to finchmeister08
If I were him, I'd look to transfer to an Air Raid offense. He's wasting his time at Florida where it's pretty run heavy and pass second. Guys like Dak Prescott are just natural passers, same with Tebow. Both of them were just natural gamers who didn't need a ton of coaching.
Trask is a career backup and looks better. I think the circumstances mask how good he is (he, too, was playing in a system that was not built for him in high school) but in the end -- he's a guy with virtually zero high school or college experience.
Trask looked more comfortable, period. The offense moved with him, period. Sometimes it's not fair (Driskel and Harris comes to mind), but at this point I'd say:
Transfer to Texas Tech or Washington, take your Medical Shirt year and last year to just learn to throw. The problem with Florida's offense is you can't just learn to throw, there are so many parts of the game that you need to work on outside of simply being a good passer.
I also think the lack of fishbowl culture and pressure will do very well for him. At Florida, we have 8 games where on a bad day we could lose them almost any given year -- and only losing one of them will likely sink our year.
Miami would have literally set us back another 5 years.
Kentucky two times in a row would make it outrageously easy to negatively recruit us.
Then we have LSU, Auburn this year, UGA, Missouri -- those are six games we could have lost. We could easily be 1 - 2 right now and looking at legitimately heating up Mullen's seat.
tl;dr I think the pressure of Florida is just too much for him, and he'd be better off at another school learning the passing game rather than trying to be a power read option QB at Florida.
Trask is a career backup and looks better. I think the circumstances mask how good he is (he, too, was playing in a system that was not built for him in high school) but in the end -- he's a guy with virtually zero high school or college experience.
Trask looked more comfortable, period. The offense moved with him, period. Sometimes it's not fair (Driskel and Harris comes to mind), but at this point I'd say:
Transfer to Texas Tech or Washington, take your Medical Shirt year and last year to just learn to throw. The problem with Florida's offense is you can't just learn to throw, there are so many parts of the game that you need to work on outside of simply being a good passer.
I also think the lack of fishbowl culture and pressure will do very well for him. At Florida, we have 8 games where on a bad day we could lose them almost any given year -- and only losing one of them will likely sink our year.
Miami would have literally set us back another 5 years.
Kentucky two times in a row would make it outrageously easy to negatively recruit us.
Then we have LSU, Auburn this year, UGA, Missouri -- those are six games we could have lost. We could easily be 1 - 2 right now and looking at legitimately heating up Mullen's seat.
tl;dr I think the pressure of Florida is just too much for him, and he'd be better off at another school learning the passing game rather than trying to be a power read option QB at Florida.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 2:44 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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If I were him, I'd look to transfer to an Air Raid offense
Crazy that I thought he may wanna give Leach a call a while back. If you've ever seen an Air Raid practice, all they do is throw throw throw routes till the point they can hit the shite blindfolded.
This post was edited on 9/15/19 at 2:45 am
Posted on 9/15/19 at 2:47 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Trask is a career backup and looks better
Trask looked good no doubt, but how much of that was Trask and not KY having no idea what he brought to the table since youd have to go back years to find clips of him playing?
Either way, lets keep the shite rolling and blow UT's asses out the Swamp this week
This post was edited on 9/15/19 at 2:49 am
Posted on 9/15/19 at 3:20 am to dbuchanon
Trask, as a pure passer, is way better than Franks.
Vision, foot movement, especially the release, touch and just general quarterbacking is an improvement. The reason Kentucky couldn't do anything is because they didn't know what we could do. Let me give an example:
With Franks, you know that 80% of his passes are on the line with the occasional bomb sprinkled in. Your defensive gameplan is really simple. Load the box, blitz occasionally, drop back into coverage and really hope that he makes a mistake rather than hits, which, as much as I hate to say it -- is probably more often than not going to be a mistake. An incompletion or an interception. You saw this on the first drive. Play one deep and you're solid.
With Trask, you literally have no idea where that ball is going. Almost all of his passes were downfield and they were to all different parts of the field, with a few screens sprinkled in (that also opened up). It's not that Trask was facing an easier defense, it's just that the offense wasn't predictable like it is with Franks.
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As with Leach, I would have really liked to see what he could do with Franks. The offensive passing schemes are so much more designed for a guy like Franks who is tall, strong and not afraid to run a little here and there. I really think he could make an absolute killing over at TT or WSU.
Vision, foot movement, especially the release, touch and just general quarterbacking is an improvement. The reason Kentucky couldn't do anything is because they didn't know what we could do. Let me give an example:
With Franks, you know that 80% of his passes are on the line with the occasional bomb sprinkled in. Your defensive gameplan is really simple. Load the box, blitz occasionally, drop back into coverage and really hope that he makes a mistake rather than hits, which, as much as I hate to say it -- is probably more often than not going to be a mistake. An incompletion or an interception. You saw this on the first drive. Play one deep and you're solid.
With Trask, you literally have no idea where that ball is going. Almost all of his passes were downfield and they were to all different parts of the field, with a few screens sprinkled in (that also opened up). It's not that Trask was facing an easier defense, it's just that the offense wasn't predictable like it is with Franks.
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As with Leach, I would have really liked to see what he could do with Franks. The offensive passing schemes are so much more designed for a guy like Franks who is tall, strong and not afraid to run a little here and there. I really think he could make an absolute killing over at TT or WSU.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 4:21 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
To be fair Straws when Trask came in we were in desperation mode and just gave up the run....thus having to throw downfield with the clock ticking. Trask made some great throws that were clutch and I never doubted that he could take us downfield. Emory is still trying to master the passing game...but can be electric running.
You take away the 76 yd jet sweep run by Hammond and we ended up with about 60 yds rushing for the night and that's not good moving forward. Trask or Emory are going to be pressured early and often when rivals see our game film. Lets pray that the OL gets better soon.
You take away the 76 yd jet sweep run by Hammond and we ended up with about 60 yds rushing for the night and that's not good moving forward. Trask or Emory are going to be pressured early and often when rivals see our game film. Lets pray that the OL gets better soon.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 4:23 am to real_gator8
Yeah, 76 yards kinda bumped up the avg
Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:49 am to finchmeister08
Yea he cant be here two more years. I've been patient assuming Jones just isnt ready. But next year Jones is getting the keys...or he will have to transfer I'd think. Cause AR is coming in too.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:01 am to finchmeister08
Why was Franks the starter since game 1 ?
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:29 am to GatorOnAnIsland
Straws you have had Franks transfer a dozen times the past 2 years and that never happened. Did it ever occur to you that Franks really enjoys being at UF? He can definitely apply and probably receive a sixth year from the NCAA. We don't know what the future holds.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:41 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Agree with all your comments, but it seemed to me that Trask doesn't have a very strong arm. I like his quick release but the receivers seems to have to wait on the ball a little bit.
Also the OL sucks. We are going to struggle in every conference game because of this, so buckle your chinstraps.
Also the OL sucks. We are going to struggle in every conference game because of this, so buckle your chinstraps.
This post was edited on 9/15/19 at 11:22 am
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:27 am to bigDgator
Trask reads the field well. My concern is he throws into traffic and that could hurt us badly. He has thrown three balls that should have been picks. He needs to let some plays go. Hopefully Mullen illustrates that this week. Especially under pressure. He did very well adjusting presnap too from what I saw on the replay. He can move the ball.
All this doesnt honestly matter if we dont improve running and defense.
1. More Jet sweeps and option plays. It works.
2. Pierce needs the ball more. Davis seems off, and Perine almost seems to have lost a step. I know he is better at blocking and catching but Pierce seems the best runner we have right
3. We have been losing to many jump balls. It's like we do not know how to play the ball in the air. Wilson regressed, and it sucks cause he was so good as a freshman.
4. Feels we didnt have designed plays for players like Copeland. That kid is a monster. Have to get him the ball with Toney out.
5. Punt return is bad.
All things considered...we need a decent chunk of improvements before the major games. If we fix a few things we could be very, very good. Trask or Franks wont matter vs the big boys if the other parts arent cleaned up.
All this doesnt honestly matter if we dont improve running and defense.
1. More Jet sweeps and option plays. It works.
2. Pierce needs the ball more. Davis seems off, and Perine almost seems to have lost a step. I know he is better at blocking and catching but Pierce seems the best runner we have right
3. We have been losing to many jump balls. It's like we do not know how to play the ball in the air. Wilson regressed, and it sucks cause he was so good as a freshman.
4. Feels we didnt have designed plays for players like Copeland. That kid is a monster. Have to get him the ball with Toney out.
5. Punt return is bad.
All things considered...we need a decent chunk of improvements before the major games. If we fix a few things we could be very, very good. Trask or Franks wont matter vs the big boys if the other parts arent cleaned up.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:49 am to Gatorbait2008
We have one major glaring weakness and it is the OL. Being able to run the ball will take the pressure off the QB and defense. It will also help us in the passing game. It is hard for any RB to look good behind a bad OL. Also hope we can keep our 2 remaining QB's healthy which is not a given with bad blocking.
We are getting crushed on time of possession and that wears on a defense. Especially one that is not deep and has multiple people out. Zuniga got hurt early in this game and that is a killer.
We are getting crushed on time of possession and that wears on a defense. Especially one that is not deep and has multiple people out. Zuniga got hurt early in this game and that is a killer.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:53 am to Gatorbait2008
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Trask or Franks wont matter vs the big boys if the other parts arent cleaned up.
As long as we can get easy passes and make first downs, it won't matter.
Getting three first downs in a row by passing opened the game up. If we can at least execute like that, we'll be just fine as the running game will start to loosen up a little.
Everything looks way different when competent passing is added to the equation.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:57 am to bigDgator
Also guys not one team has had to scout and prepare for trask with that said we will see what happens with tenner and Towson ( 2 games we should win easily) but with 2 plus games of trask playing when we hit the meat of our schedule October with aubbie, LSWHO kittins, uga that will give us a mighty big answer plus trask is injury prone so they need Emory ready to go and try get him as many snaps as possible the next 2 weeks
Posted on 9/15/19 at 12:17 pm to AlbinoGator
Keep in mind Straws that UKs secondary already had no returning starters from last year, an ejection and an injury late 3rd qt and their secondary was depleted and they HAD to play soft to prevent bombs over their heads.
Trask played very well...but Im pointing out what you would point out about Franks.
Trask played very well...but Im pointing out what you would point out about Franks.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:06 pm to real_gator8
I would like to see Jones get some playing time . Trask arm is not strong and it’s going to bite us in the butt when we play better teams . Once we know the east is out of reach Jones needs to play or he should just Transfer. We are going to have a hard time winning with a crap OL and Fromm type QB with a weaker arm.
Mullen has to get find a way to help the QB with this weak OL. Jones is athletic enough we can roll him out of the pocket and make the defense actually worry about us running the ball.
Mullen has to get find a way to help the QB with this weak OL. Jones is athletic enough we can roll him out of the pocket and make the defense actually worry about us running the ball.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:21 pm to tjv305
Mullen said Emory will get time
Posted on 9/15/19 at 1:30 pm to real_gator8
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Keep in mind Straws that UKs secondary already had no returning starters from last year, an ejection and an injury late 3rd qt and their secondary was depleted and they HAD to play soft to prevent bombs over their heads.
Trask played very well...but Im pointing out what you would point out about Franks.
These are bullshite excuses lol. I'm sorry, man, but this is what happens whenever Trask goes in the game. Same with Missouri. The reason they're switching to that Zone is because Trask will have enough time and find the open receiver -- and he did.
It's not a lack of prep time, it's not because he's playing a different defense, it's not because their third string DB is that much worse than their second string -- it is simply that Trask opens the field up because he can do something Franks cannot:
Hit people in the middle of the field with consistency.
Defending a Franks led offense is really simple:
Shut down the edge, play QB Spy/drift the safety into the box and play cover-1.
With Trask it's not that easy. You have to prepare for the slant, the dig, the drag, the perimeter and even the deep ball -- and he regularly hits those passes with accuracy. The offense can simply take more chances and widen the defense, this causes them to have to play defense drastically different.
You can't load the box if the QB can hit patterns regularly outside of the box.
And it irks me because I broke this down two years ago.
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