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re: Georgia Breakdown.

Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:11 am to
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:11 am to
Beware the transitive property. What happens in one game doesn’t always impact another. Especially in rivalry games.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89936 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 7:48 am to
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If they can't get onto Kentucky's half of the field before 6:20 left to go in the Third Quarter I'm not sure Georgia can say they are a surefire win against anyone at the moment.


I don't think anyone is a surefire win, but I would certainly pick us to win over missouri, atm, and tech and not really feel that's a stretch.

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Kentucky literally started a Wide Receiver at Quarterback


and threw for 17 yards and produced zero points. What else should we have done?

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Fromm had 35 passing yards.


he had a pretty bad game but wasn't asked to do hardly anything. It was a deluge (there were only 28 total passes attempted combined between both teams) and we averaged 5.5 YPC for the game so didn't really NEED to pass much. But I certainly agree that it was a terribly ugly game, both to watch and in the box score.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
27707 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:39 am to
Wasn't saying Georgia did poorly on defense at all vs UK. Just saying it's hard to take a lot from that game defensively. USCe was moving the ball decently at least till Hilinski went down.

ND was a great defensive game for sure. The adjustments to shut down their TE in the second half was great coaching.

I don't think anyone doubts UGA is a very, very good defense. Like I said you and Auburn are very similar teams. Difference in the defenses are Auburn has two stud Dline who disrupt a little better than Georgia's so far this year. Your safeties are a lot better(Reed is a stud). Corners I think we can beat them with Jefferson and Hammond fairly consistently.

I just...I don't know. If you go back in our forum for the LSU and Auburn games you will find I haven't been confident in either of those. PIcked us to barely survive each game, and vs LSU I didn't like the match up at all.


Just from watching the games(slow season at work I have time to kill lol). If this Georgia we have seen the last month comes out, I think Florida wins...and comfortably.

If Coley and Smart develop a strong game plan and change up some of the offensive principles...then it's a dog fight.

Georgia needs screens, crossing routes, bunch formations, Play action rollouts(Fromm isn't insanely slow), wildcat to change of pace. Just show some kind of offensive scheme that isn't "We have more talent so we don't need to do anything special". Cause that works vs bad teams...it works vs okay teams. It doesn't work vs good teams. UF doesn't have depth like Georgia..but our first string is as good right now.


Georgia also seems to like the idea of winning in the fourth. Wear the other team down and then gash them in the fourth. Well UF has been the best team in the nation in the fourth this year in terms of points scored vs points allowed. So Georgia won't have as easy a time with that because UF has done a very good job of building a well conditioned team with Savage and it's shown for two years now.


Don't know...maybe I'm just a blind homer. I can see us losing, but not to the Georgia team that has played from ND on. Smart has to change it up. If you start scheming...we could be in trouble. I just don't think that is in Kirby. He seems to be happy with the offense(saying they have more explosive plays now) and thinks the plan works if they don't turn it over.

It won't. It won't vs UF and it won't vs Auburn. The talent is close enough to where scheme is important.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:53 am to
everything you said is pretty much the concsensus of every UGA fan, and hell anyone that has even watched us.

I'm fully confident that our defense will keep us in the game throughout. If our offense trots out the same plodding archaic 1970s version we've seen the last few weeks we might not score a point. If we mix it up and throw over the middle and incorporate some intermediate routes and add some variety to the playcalling, I like our chances.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
49085 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:00 am to
I think the one thing that everyone is forgetting is that this is a rivalry game. So just like Miami, throw out the records and stats because it will be a war. It is the biggest regular season game for both teams.

The way the Cocktail Party should be.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:56 pm to
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I don't think anyone is a surefire win, but I would certainly pick us to win over missouri, atm, and tech and not really feel that's a stretch.



You said if you beat Florida you'll likely go to the SECCG. I'm correcting you. If Georgia has struggled with SCAR and Kentucky then you can't say that it's a given going down the stretch.

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and threw for 17 yards and produced zero points. What else should we have done?



Definitely not beat your chest about an extremely hobbled Kentucky team on the road starting a Wide Receiver at QB. Congrats, I guess.

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he had a pretty bad game but wasn't asked to do hardly anything. It was a deluge (there were only 28 total passes attempted combined between both teams) and we averaged 5.5 YPC for the game so didn't really NEED to pass much. But I certainly agree that it was a terribly ugly game, both to watch and in the box score.


Uhh, Trask had no problem passing in the rain. He had 4 touchdown passes against the team Georgia couldn't score more than 20 against at home.

He did it as the away Quarterback, to boot.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:01 pm to
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Beware the transitive property. What happens in one game doesn’t always impact another. Especially in rivalry games.


I'm comfortable in saying that if Georgia struggled at home back to back weekends with poor QB play and failed to score more than 17 vs. South Carolina and then failed to score more than 21 against Kentucky that these are good signs for our team.

Not 100%, but this does not bode well for them.

Especially since Kyle had three touchdowns against Kentucky in the 4th quarter alone (Georgia's entire production at home against them) and then Trask had three touchdowns against South Carolina in the 4th quarter alone (more than Georgia's entire production at home against them).

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Especially in rivalry games.


I have never bought that shite lol. I remember when we had never beaten Michigan. I remember FSU having 6 wins over us. I remember Kentucky having lost 30+ to us. I remember not having beaten Miami more than once in what, 20 years? I remember Auburn "having our number".

I feel confident about this game.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89936 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:14 pm to
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You said if you beat Florida you'll likely go to the SECCG. I'm correcting you.


If we beat UF we would have to lose 2 of our remaining 3 SEC games. So yes, I think it's a relatively safe bet that we can beat 2 of those 3 teams.

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Definitely not beat your chest about an extremely hobbled Kentucky team on the road starting a Wide Receiver at QB. Congrats, I guess.


I'd love for you to point out where anyone is beating their chest. Have you listened to any uga fans since saturday? Most of us are downright pissed off.



Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
12917 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 3:22 pm to
Bottom line, LSU was the best team that UF will play this year and they went toe to toe with LSU in Baton Rouge for 3 quarters. Auburn is the second best team the Gators will play this year and UF beat them at home. UG is the 3rd best team they play and the Gators have them at a neutral site with UF having the momentum at this point in the season. If the Gators can stop Swift or keep him in check, IMO this is a game that the Gators could win by 2 scores. 31-17ish.

Go Gators!
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 4:10 pm to
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If we beat UF we would have to lose 2 of our remaining 3 SEC games. So yes, I think it's a relatively safe bet that we can beat 2 of those 3 teams.



How safe? Georgia was -21 against South Carolina. Missouri beat up on South Carolina. Missouri just lost to Vanderbilt.

I could see Georgia losing to Missouri and Auburn going forward. Definitely Texas A&M.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
27707 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 4:42 pm to
Transitive property doesn't work in football straws. If Georgia beats UF, that would mean Georgia improved a lot in the bye week. So why would you assume they lose two games after UF? Think it's pretty fair to say we are the best team remaining on their schedule. If they beat us, they should win the SEC East. They can still lose one of those three and be in, which they likely would.

I think losing to us could snow ball however. Georgia fans will be up in arms if UF beats Georgia this year. Mainly because they see Florida as still rebuilding, while this was their year. Fromm is a veteran, loaded Oline, loaded backfield, experienced defense. I think most Georgia fans are in playoff or bust mode. So losing to UF in Mullen's second year would bring hell fire on Smart. Would be fun to watch
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:20 pm to
The transitive property is literally how most analytics are done regarding predictions in football.

If they lose to South Carolina, they could very easily lose to Missouri, A&M and/or Auburn.

Simply beating Florida doesn't guarantee the East by any stretch of the imagination if they struggle with Kentucky and South Carolina. Some teams are also built to beat others -- like LSU vs. Florida and Florida vs. Auburn.

Auburn played directly into our strengths, this does not mean that Auburn will have the same struggles against other teams.

All analytics are based on these types of comparisons.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 3:14 pm to
If only we would have closed the gap this offseason, then Florida would be ranked... even higher over UGA than they are?
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 4:24 pm to
"Rabble, rabble, recruiting in the SEC, rabble rabble."
Posted by GatorPA84
PNW
Member since Sep 2016
6119 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 5:22 pm to
The leg jumpers sure are scared. You can see it in their posts. They know they short reign is coming to an end. I can’t wait to bump our “ while the swamp burns” thread
Posted by real_gator8
Redington Shores
Member since Mar 2019
961 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 11:13 pm to
Both teams will have their backs to the proverbial wall and each knows a loss is probably the end of hoping to be in Hotlanta. We are 2-2 in the past four games yet...UGA has acted like they have dominated us...not true.

Gator fans had to endure the countless shite threads started by leg humpers during the spring and summer. Well, that rooster is going to come back to roost. I for one will not let jack wagoners like rat dog hear the end of it till I get tired of rubbing raw dog hide. Payback is a beatch.
Posted by gatorsimz
cafe risque
Member since Feb 2009
8416 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 5:30 am to
If Greenard, Zuniga, and Toney are all back at 100%, I think we should win. I’ll say 24-14 gators.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:00 am to
I’m feeling 31-20 Gators

Late score to put the nail in the coffin
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
27707 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 10:04 am to
My biggest concern in the game is that Grantham does not commit to man coverage on the outside and let's Georgia throw into zones. Fromm can read a zone well. I would hope they see the tape on how to defend them and do exactly what ND and USCe did. Henderson is the only corner it seems he has faith in to press. I would think Dean could press the slot because of how strong he is and Wilson could at least sink in some to cut off quick throws a little better. Just hate seeing the dink and dunk we allow.


If we press them in man, I don't see how Georgia wins. They simply do not have the talent outside to win one on one match ups consistently. Especially if Cager isn't playing. If we play passive Fromm will have a field day. Man up, blitz his arse, and load the box the whole game so he has to throw to the man coverage.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:00 pm to
I worry more about our pass rush simply not getting home. If Greenard and Zuniga play we will win. As long as they are healthy, our defense is going to do very well.
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