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For those that need reminding and humbling, we are 1-3 with the 'Canes since 2002...
Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:21 am
Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:21 am
2002 - Got trounced in the Swamp form the defending national champions.
2003 - Probably allowed that greatest comeback in Miami history after being up 33-10 at halftime.
2008 - Are savior Tim Tebow finally gets us a win.
2013 - Let a team that was horribly worse than us squeeze out a win due to an inept Jeff Driskel. This set the tone for a 4 win season after that.
Just because they appear to be worse than us on paper doesn't mean anything.
2003 - Probably allowed that greatest comeback in Miami history after being up 33-10 at halftime.
2008 - Are savior Tim Tebow finally gets us a win.
2013 - Let a team that was horribly worse than us squeeze out a win due to an inept Jeff Driskel. This set the tone for a 4 win season after that.
Just because they appear to be worse than us on paper doesn't mean anything.
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 11:22 am
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:09 pm to finchmeister08
Different ages with different context.
People said the same thing about FSU.
"Six years...it won't be easy...it's still a rivalry..."
It was easy and those six prior years didn't mean a damn thing.
Don't bring this cowardly shite to our already desolate board.
People said the same thing about FSU.
"Six years...it won't be easy...it's still a rivalry..."
It was easy and those six prior years didn't mean a damn thing.
Don't bring this cowardly shite to our already desolate board.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:58 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Don't bring this cowardly shite to our already desolate board.
I laughed!
Posted on 7/23/19 at 1:00 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
2013 wasn't so long ago and it was a "definite" win for florida. we both know what happened.
nothing is guaranteed. and it's not about being "cowardly", it's about looking like idiots if the worst happens. and the worst can happen in week "0" when you start the season off against an in-state rival.
nothing is guaranteed. and it's not about being "cowardly", it's about looking like idiots if the worst happens. and the worst can happen in week "0" when you start the season off against an in-state rival.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 1:04 pm to finchmeister08
That was the same year we went 4 - 8.
This is not a Muschamp team, I'm sorry.
You're comparing apples to oranges. Any team can win, but predicting that this is 50/50 is just as silly as predicting it's 100/0 in favor of us. I'm not predicting that.
I'm predicting 90/10, because there are always freak accidents and turnovers that can change any given game, but there's no way you can watch their Spring Game and think that absolute dogshit offense is going to throw or run against our defense.
This is not a Muschamp team, I'm sorry.
You're comparing apples to oranges. Any team can win, but predicting that this is 50/50 is just as silly as predicting it's 100/0 in favor of us. I'm not predicting that.
I'm predicting 90/10, because there are always freak accidents and turnovers that can change any given game, but there's no way you can watch their Spring Game and think that absolute dogshit offense is going to throw or run against our defense.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 1:47 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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That was the same year we went 4 - 8.
yup, could easily happen this year. i'm with you. probability of that happening is slim. but it could still happen.
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predicting that this is 50/50 is just as silly as predicting it's 100/0 in favor of us.
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I'm predicting 90/10
so you're not 100% arrogant. just 90%.
but i feel my point still stands. our 1-3 could've vary easily had been 3-1.
same goes for the auburn game this year. we're 1-4 with them. we lost to them in '06 and auburn didn't have one offensive score the entire game. 2007 shouldn't have been the game that it was. 2011 should have been ours as well or it could've been.
i'd say we're the better team for that game as well, but from a program standpoint, we don't usually perform well in them. regardless of who's playing and coaching.
miami and auburn will be hard fought games. you know, it's funny, i remember back in 2013, the slogan here was "BOMBS OVER CORAL GABLES". boy did we eat those words.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 1:59 pm to finchmeister08
The point of statistics and predictions is to elect the most relevant information.
If I say I have a 90/10 shot of passing a test and you say that we could also be hit by a meteor because "aNyThInG cAn HaPpEn" then we're not having a logical nor sane conversation.
Injuries happen, turnovers happen, NCAA sanctions happen.
If our teams line up and play, our team has a lot more factors going for it than there's does, statistically, observably and objectively.
In the end, this is an extremely experienced SEC HC with an in tact staff vs. a first year HC with a completely disjointed staff outside of maybe the DC who worked with Manny in the past.
They also have a completely broken position at QB and OL, just read their own fan's comments.
Saying anything can happen isn't an argument, it's simply a platitude.
If I say I have a 90/10 shot of passing a test and you say that we could also be hit by a meteor because "aNyThInG cAn HaPpEn" then we're not having a logical nor sane conversation.
Injuries happen, turnovers happen, NCAA sanctions happen.
If our teams line up and play, our team has a lot more factors going for it than there's does, statistically, observably and objectively.
In the end, this is an extremely experienced SEC HC with an in tact staff vs. a first year HC with a completely disjointed staff outside of maybe the DC who worked with Manny in the past.
They also have a completely broken position at QB and OL, just read their own fan's comments.
Saying anything can happen isn't an argument, it's simply a platitude.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 2:17 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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If I say I have a 90/10 shot of passing a test
that's a little different because you're the one taking the test. you're not, however, out on the field playing the game. we could easily be unprepared as we would be fully prepared. if this was FAMU, i'd feel differently. i'd be right there with you. but this is miami. and miami isn't FAMU.
i agree with you, that on paper, we should definitely win. but wins aren't definite in rivalry games. especially rivalry games that are the first game of the season.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 2:38 pm to finchmeister08
What leads you to think Manny will have his entire team more prepared than Mullen's?
Posted on 7/23/19 at 4:00 pm to finchmeister08
After looking at the two teams more closely the last couple of weeks, I don't see this being a slaughter like some are predicting.
It's a rivalry game.
Miami's front 7 is good. Florida's front 7 is good. Both offenses will struggle. I think the difference is Florida's secondary and at QB Florida is probably better, which is enough to win this without big mistakes.
It's a rivalry game.
Miami's front 7 is good. Florida's front 7 is good. Both offenses will struggle. I think the difference is Florida's secondary and at QB Florida is probably better, which is enough to win this without big mistakes.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 5:00 pm to slayerxing
Manny has always had difficulty with power running teams, this is not going to be any different.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 6:00 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
First, Fincy, 2002 I was in the Swamp for the 2002 and they had basically an NFL team...we fought them for a while but first year coach Zook didn't have the talent or depth to win.
2003 Finch, learn your history lesson.... We had true frosh Leak trying to lead but he threw picks. The starter going into the game was Ingle Martin, really a punter and he got injured early...afterwards he assumed punting duties.
In 2013 we were riddled with injuries to key players before season started and it got worse later. When we lost to Ga Southern we really had no linebackers except 1 against an option team..we had to use a walk on and a true frosh who was going to be r/s'ed.
In reality those 3 games that were Ls is understandable.
I know Miamuh will be jacked up because its the poor kids vs the rich kids. But jacked only takes you so far if your really outgunned in every way.
2003 Finch, learn your history lesson.... We had true frosh Leak trying to lead but he threw picks. The starter going into the game was Ingle Martin, really a punter and he got injured early...afterwards he assumed punting duties.
In 2013 we were riddled with injuries to key players before season started and it got worse later. When we lost to Ga Southern we really had no linebackers except 1 against an option team..we had to use a walk on and a true frosh who was going to be r/s'ed.
In reality those 3 games that were Ls is understandable.
I know Miamuh will be jacked up because its the poor kids vs the rich kids. But jacked only takes you so far if your really outgunned in every way.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 6:53 pm to real_gator8
Didn't Driskell break his leg in that game vs Miami in 2013? I mean its hard to lose your starting qb during the game and expect to win while the rest of the team was sleepwalking.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:10 pm to Louisiana Gator
Driskel broke his leg in the Tennessee game.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:51 pm to real_gator8
Ingle Martin actually started the second half and it was 19-10. Deshawn Wynn takes it to the house on the first play and Carthon pounds one in with 6 minutes left in the 3rd.
Insert Brock berlin’s perfect game after that.
Gave up the last score with less than 2 minutes left. And the one interception Leak has was at the end of the game for the win.
Insert Brock berlin’s perfect game after that.
Gave up the last score with less than 2 minutes left. And the one interception Leak has was at the end of the game for the win.
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 7/23/19 at 7:51 pm to finchmeister08
Maybe it’s just youthful arrogance but I truly believe we are going to whip the shite out of Miami.
My Dad has the same caution as finch when we discuss the game
My Dad has the same caution as finch when we discuss the game
Posted on 7/23/19 at 8:13 pm to atlgator
Will he be 30 this year as well?
Posted on 7/23/19 at 8:45 pm to finchmeister08
Not quite. Miami’s hope is a Muschampian style game plan where their front 7 dominates our OL to the point that we can’t even scheme around it. I don’t see our OL unit being THAT bad and I don’t see Mullen not being able to scheme around the OL (if they are overmatched) against someone he is so familiar with.
And then they also have to find a way to score on us. I just don’t see it happening.
And then they also have to find a way to score on us. I just don’t see it happening.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:05 pm to real_gator8
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we fought them for a while but first year coach Zook didn't have the talent or depth to win.
Oh comon that is BS. Spurrier left Zook a fricking Ferrari in his first year and he ran it right into the ground. That 2002 team was way more loaded than people think.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:05 pm to finchmeister08
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Ingle Martin actually started the second half and it was 19-10. Deshawn Wynn takes it to the house on the first play and Carthon pounds one in with 6 minutes left in the 3rd.
Insert Brock berlin’s perfect game after that.
Gave up the last score with less than 2 minutes left. And the one interception Leak has was at the end of the game for the win.
EDIT: NM thinking of wrong time in game. Could've sworn Hester ran back a punt return for a TD in the comeback, but it was the opening kickoff.
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 9:10 pm
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