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What should we add when we remodel WB?
Posted on 6/18/18 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 6/18/18 at 7:47 pm
Twitter poll is running right now LINK, after this State article, Minor change to Williams-Brice coming this year. 2019 could be different story
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In 2019, after South Carolina’s football coaches move from the Floyd Football Building to the new $50 million football operations center, things could get interesting.
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Tanner again: “As football moves over to the football operations center, we hope to convert some space for future amenities.”
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“It would be premature to go on record about anything that may be done with the space that will become available once football transitions to its new facility,” a school spokesman wrote.
That leaves the ideas up to us, folks.
So, with that space available in two seasons, what could South Carolina add that would mean the most for Gamecocks fans?
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:22 pm to KSGamecock
Honestly, my issue with most sporting events these days is cost. You wanna keep the fan base rabid in the future find a way to get the most people in for the cheapest cost. You can say that people will watch at home but catering to luxury boxes or other things targeted to older alumni is a proposition that I think is misguided. Target the students and young alumni who may not be cash rich and build loyalty. They’ll spend the money down the line once they’re established in their careers. Without them, the future gets bleak.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:27 pm to KSGamecock
Get rid of the piss troughs
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:36 pm to KSGamecock
Bring back Doo Doo ice.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:21 am to KSGamecock
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So, with that space available in two seasons, what could South Carolina add that would mean the most for Gamecocks fans?
Since most of us are peasants, it probably won't mean much to most Gamecock fans at all. It'll probably be something geared toward the richer fans.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:32 am to Cockopotamus
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Get rid of the piss troughs
I actually like these.
Also the bathroom lines are pretty non existent with these .
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 9:52 am
Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:46 am to GetCocky11
Roaster has the hook up.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:44 pm to KSGamecock
I think the university's focus should be doing whatever is possible to buy up any and all available properties down Shop and Bluff Road for beautification. The Fairgrounds and Farmers Market have come so far, but there are still some real eyesores on the I-77 side of the stadium.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 11:47 pm to Carolina_Girl
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Roaster has the hook up.
I know what they want to do ... but Eddie Floyd has threatened to go ballistic if they do.
So there are going to be some special box type facilities in his building along with some VIP viewing area and some more shops put in ... they are even talking about food this and that which would be stupid as frick if they went that direction.
East side men's and women's lower level bathroom facilities are supposed to be upgraded but we've got a plumbing issue with the city ... sometimes we just need to go Trump trade war with the City of Columbia honestly. Just say frick'em and raise tarrifs on their asses, especially after the shite show flood last year.
They are also planning on doing a lot with the lower level in terms of more food and drink options. They are going to dress it up down there, make it look better to visiting fans.
There is a push to make the main entrance on the west side and give it a columned look with arched covered entrances .... but who knows where that is going to go. It would be kind of cool seeing everything focused on the west side coming and going in between the Gamecock Park and the new FBOps building though.
The Saturday only new game day only lockerroom in the stadium is going to be spectacular when they finally get that done.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:19 am to scrooster
Curious to know what Floyd is blocking.
Personally, I think this is a chance to get ahead of the curve of the SEC and we're going to miss it. The future isn't adding more seats or boxes, in fact, I would argue it's about reducing the number.
I'm a season ticket holder and donate at scholarship level. I can't make it to weekday basketball games and only marginally care about baseball. Basically, I pay 1k for every home game. That sucks.
I would be much happier to pay that with a better gameday experience. Get rid of the benches and put in individual seats. Expand access to concessions. Put in actual restaurants a la major league baseball. Air conditioning the concourses with a better demarcation b/w shopping and food/drink and getting into the stadium. I hate having to wade through lines on people getting sandwiches and bathroom in order to just get to my seats.
What needs to happen in the next decade is for USC to convince people that it's worth paying the 1k to go into the games and not just tailgate and watch on the 60 inch plus TVs with satellite or sit at home by the pool and grill with friends.
Add to that, I can't even write off my donations now!
Personally, I think this is a chance to get ahead of the curve of the SEC and we're going to miss it. The future isn't adding more seats or boxes, in fact, I would argue it's about reducing the number.
I'm a season ticket holder and donate at scholarship level. I can't make it to weekday basketball games and only marginally care about baseball. Basically, I pay 1k for every home game. That sucks.
I would be much happier to pay that with a better gameday experience. Get rid of the benches and put in individual seats. Expand access to concessions. Put in actual restaurants a la major league baseball. Air conditioning the concourses with a better demarcation b/w shopping and food/drink and getting into the stadium. I hate having to wade through lines on people getting sandwiches and bathroom in order to just get to my seats.
What needs to happen in the next decade is for USC to convince people that it's worth paying the 1k to go into the games and not just tailgate and watch on the 60 inch plus TVs with satellite or sit at home by the pool and grill with friends.
Add to that, I can't even write off my donations now!
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:45 am to SirBigSpur
I could not possibly agree more with your post. Spot on.
I have a few friends who gave up their tickets this year -- one lives about three hours away, but the other is in Columbia and would rather just sit at home and watch on TV in the A/C. He plans to just do a mini plan or buy single game tickets to a game or two. The Gameday Experience needs to be better in order for people to still put a premium on actually attending the games. Hopefully, we amp that up in a big way, because last year was a little frustrating. Even the heralded DJ sucked and wasn't loud enough to pump the crowd up most of the time.
I have a few friends who gave up their tickets this year -- one lives about three hours away, but the other is in Columbia and would rather just sit at home and watch on TV in the A/C. He plans to just do a mini plan or buy single game tickets to a game or two. The Gameday Experience needs to be better in order for people to still put a premium on actually attending the games. Hopefully, we amp that up in a big way, because last year was a little frustrating. Even the heralded DJ sucked and wasn't loud enough to pump the crowd up most of the time.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 11:55 am to SirBigSpur
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Curious to know what Floyd is blocking.
Having his building torn down and completely rebuilding the entire North Endzone.
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Personally, I think this is a chance to get ahead of the curve of the SEC and we're going to miss it. The future isn't adding more seats or boxes, in fact, I would argue it's about reducing the number.
It's split almost down the middle on that.
Half wanna leave it where it is, the other half wanna expand to 90k+ but make it a palace in the process. Part of that is a vanity expansion to be bigger than what Clemson has, part of that is to simply upgrade the stadium's facilities and amenities. I've heard the phrase, "finest stadium experience in the conference" used several times and it's always about giving it a more pro-stadium type feel.
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I'm a season ticket holder and donate at scholarship level. I can't make it to weekday basketball games and only marginally care about baseball. Basically, I pay 1k for every home game. That sucks.
That's becoming an issue for a lot of fans ... but what we know is that when all the teams are winning everyone is happier to contribute, donate, buy-in at those levels and above.
We wanna compete with UF for all-sports trophie ... then those Gamecock Club dollars have to keep rolling-in.
Remember, your club dollars go to scholarships. Private donars cover most of the major aesthetics and much of the actual building costs themselves. Now, stadium upgrades, that's a different ballgame and has to be sold in a different way. But it's going to happen eventually ... just not as fast as some fans want it to. There are some announcements forthcoming ... a lot of us are holding our breath waiting to see what's been agreed-to.
As I understand it East Lower entry ports ... all of that empty space under there is going to be upgraded with food and drink kiosks and the bathrooms are going to be upgraded.
North Endzone is going to be awhile because you've got to fight Eddie Floyd plus Hyman jumped the gun with the video board upgrade ... it was needed but he should have done the upgrades to the North Endzone before installing the new video board.
Everyone has agreed that bowling-in Billy Brice would be a mistake.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:07 pm to KSGamecock
It's not a renovation on the stadium, but I always loved the proposal of lowering George Rogers Blvd and building an overpass from the fairgrounds.
Some of you might remember this rendering that some guy did a while back. Not endorsing the changes to the stadium, just the overpass.
I know it will never happen, but I think this would be clutch. Plus it creates another nice plaza area.
Some of you might remember this rendering that some guy did a while back. Not endorsing the changes to the stadium, just the overpass.
I know it will never happen, but I think this would be clutch. Plus it creates another nice plaza area.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:51 pm to Bluefin
Me likey.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:18 pm to KSGamecock
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What should we add when we remodel WB?
A championship banner?
Posted on 6/21/18 at 12:04 am to Bluefin
Actually, they're still thinking about the overpass just not the lowering of GR Blvd.
I think that might happen one day if they do not decide to go full blown coliseum entrance from the west side.
I do remember that dropping GR Blvd pie in the sky. It would never work ... too much infrastructure underground feom electricity to plumbing and now fiber optics. Not to mention the drainage issues and the traffic hazzard.
I think that might happen one day if they do not decide to go full blown coliseum entrance from the west side.
I do remember that dropping GR Blvd pie in the sky. It would never work ... too much infrastructure underground feom electricity to plumbing and now fiber optics. Not to mention the drainage issues and the traffic hazzard.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 7:46 am to scrooster
The overpass walkway seems like a no-brainer. Frees up traffic, eases the stress on resources (i.e. less cops directing traffic) and would improve foot traffic around the stadium for the experience.
I can actually somewhat understand Floyd's point. However, it was twenty-five years ago. I don't see the point of demolishing when remodeling is feasible. It's not really the bones of WB that suck, it's the aesthetics. Use the existing structure as you will, but improve the utilities and the look.
What ever happened to the purchase of the land near the river? And are there bids to move further down shop road? There's a good start to something down there, but USC needs to make an effort to own everything within at least a halfmile radius around the stadium to improve the look.
I can actually somewhat understand Floyd's point. However, it was twenty-five years ago. I don't see the point of demolishing when remodeling is feasible. It's not really the bones of WB that suck, it's the aesthetics. Use the existing structure as you will, but improve the utilities and the look.
What ever happened to the purchase of the land near the river? And are there bids to move further down shop road? There's a good start to something down there, but USC needs to make an effort to own everything within at least a halfmile radius around the stadium to improve the look.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:05 am to scrooster
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Everyone has agreed that bowling-in Billy Brice would be a mistake.
Is this because too much capacity would be created or aesthetically?
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:00 am to Bluefin
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It's not a renovation on the stadium, but I always loved the proposal of lowering George Rogers Blvd and building an overpass from the fairgrounds.
Wouldn't it just be easier to build (a) pedestrian bridge(s) up and over?
If you planned it correctly, it could intersect with the ramps, put in gates, and let people flow over the road in and out.
Edit: I didn't see Rooster's post before I typed this.
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 11:02 am
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:16 am to atlgamecockman
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Is this because too much capacity would be created or aesthetically?
I've been told several different things ... the talk really started in 2003. Biggest one at the time was cost and access. The spiral ramps would have to be completely taken down and, as I understand it they are load bearing so it would be an engineering nightmare and double the costs.
Aesthetics are another problem as Billy Brice has its personality.
Airflow is another. Bowling it in was supposed to raise the ambient temp in the stadium by some crazy amount ... like 15° or something. Wasn't just about air flow but body heat with increased capacity and all that. One of the problems with W-B in that regard is its position running north and south means the East side absorbs a lot of UV radiated heat for an extended period of time and is not shielded like other stadiums.
I've sat in East Club for almost three decades now and almost since I was first moved there they've talked about enclosing East Club and installing tinted glass and AC ... I do suspect that will happen eventually because it is badly needed but as to when, who knows.
Every once in awhile we get feelers about increased costs and license fees ... and that usually gets shot down in a hurry. We're already paying a lot.
FWIW the declination in our stadium is advantageous to the ball players because the first eight weeks of the season they don't have to deal with sun in their eyes fielding punts, KOs and long passes during day games ... the sun is to their left and right since all games began after 12Noon.
There's been some talk about actually lowering the field like they did at The Big House .... and that is a very feasible possibility and may happen one day to add seats without bowling-in the stadium.
Seating capacity is not a major concern right now although I know they'd like to take it over 87k ... they're more concerned with adding premium seating and more private boxes.
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