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Butch Jones and Roy Williams standing behind him holding diplomas.


The roots of all this started in the Dean Smith era you know.


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UNCheat:
AFAMily Program

Here are some that I found that could be somehow incorporated into your idea.

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This dirty play still irks me.
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If you change "Coaching" to "Cheating" this sign will make TV, and it will also be your best bet to get into a fight.
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"Tarnished Heels" I like that.

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I think that guys was already on the payroll so maybe the 82 banner gets the red X as well.

Tuck the Far Babies.


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re: UNC Admits Academic Fraud: Lack Of Institutional Controls, *NCAA Issues 3rd NOA
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DawgCountry


Thanks for that link, everyone should read that, there are some good zingers and one headscratcher in it.


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The NCAA is between a rock and a hard place because it badly needs North Carolina athletics to be vibrant and healthy. A few years of severe sanctions against UNC means a potentially huge revenue loss for the NCAA, from both television rights and post-season play. Before these revelations of extreme cheating, Carolina had a squeaky-clean reputation, due in large part to the integrity of late basketball coach Dean Smith. That’s all over now.



I don't see them as a huge loss of revenue for the NCAA. One team is just a drop in the bucket for the NCAA, and it's not like unc is like a texas.

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Once I told former UNC athletic director John Swofford I wanted to write a story that, in part, looked into athletic department finances. Swofford placed his hand on my shoulder and said: “Now, Patrick, why would you want to write about a thing like that?”


.....

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UNC has to give Williams his walking papers. Williams, who likes to flippantly refer to the scandal as all that “junk going on,” is a big part of the problem. Despite his status as the state’s highest-paid employee, Williams did not do his job. At best, he is an incompetent administrator who failed to maintain control over the handful of athletes he was supposed to monitor. At worst, he knew all about the cheating and took a see-no-evil-Joe-Paterno approach, hoping his immorality would go undiscovered.



damn, he compared him to JoePa and child rape....

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Additionally, all UNC victories for any years in which ineligible players were used should be vacated. Williams – and UNC basketball – should have those wins wiped from records. The Carolina football program, and any other nonrevenue teams that used ineligible players, should face the same fate.




This guy had access to their financial data...does unc football really not turn a profit?!?!



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University of
No-Show
Classes

Established 1993

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...North
...Carolina
LiAr...
LiAr...

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Julius Nyang'oro gave me an "A" at my tailgate today


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Mary Willingham gave me these tickets

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change this to say LIAR instead of LOVE
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Rosa Parks deserved more than 10 sentences

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SWOFFORD LIED TOO

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stick a Pinocchio nose on this ugly abomiation

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This goes back to Dean Smith and John Swofford when he was running UNC in the 80's. My guess is it will be another UCLA with Wooden and Papa Sam. NCAA drug their feet for 5 or 6 years and let Wooden retire and the scandal never hit his records or UCLA's.

I will bet the plan will be similar with UNC about 5 or 6 years from now.

North
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Always
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re: UNC Admits Academic Fraud: Lack Of Institutional Controls, *NCAA Issues 3rd NOA
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Papa Sam


...was indicted by the FBI for money laundering & racketeering 4 days after he died in '87.

Wooden was an interesting individual. I honestly believe he was disgusted with things even though he had to know what was going on with Gilbert & the players all those years. Wooden certainly benefited from the talent, though.

Gene Bartow actually "officially thanked" the NCAA back in 1993 for not investigating UCLA in 1976

I've never been remotely enamored by anything Dean Smith did on or OFF the court. Condolences to his family for his passing, however he is not the 'saint' the media has long portrayed regarding his image and legacy.

Swofford & Ken Haines = two peas in a pod. dirty.
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re: UNC Admits Academic Fraud: Lack Of Institutional Controls, *NCAA Issues 3rd NOA
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UNC Chapel Hill released the details of a "notice of allegations" from the NCAA Thursday in which the collegiate sports governing body found a lack of institutional control that constitutes a "severe breach of conduct" at the North Carolina school.


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The 59-page notice from the NCAA enforcement staff details five alleged violations including impermissible benefits to student-athletes and interference by school officials in the investigation.


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The university has 90 days to file a response if it intends to challenge any of the allegations. Once the response is submitted, the enforcement staff at UNC has 60 more days to craft its response to the Committee on Infractions - the panel that will ultimately decide UNC's fate. A Committee on Infractions hearing will then be set where UNC will present its case. Then - after another six to eight week waiting period - the committee will deliver its infractions report. UNC could then accept or appeal the report.

If all of that plays out, the hearing would likely be in the fall and a final decision could be rendered sometime early next year.


LINK

It's on the ESPN ticker and they even had a "breaking news" section where the anchor talked about it for 30 seconds
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http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/13012146/ncaa-charges-north-carolina-tar-heels-five-serious-violations

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NCAA charges UNC with five Level I violations in academic probe


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The NCAA has charged North Carolina with five violations connected to the school's long-running academic fraud scandal, including a lack of institutional control for poor oversight of an academic department popular with athletes.


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The five charges listed in the NCAA's notice are:

• There was a lack of institutional control in failing to "sufficiently monitor'' the AFAM department as well as the academic support department for athletes, noting athletes received "preferential access'' to the department's irregular courses.

• Academic counselors leveraged relationships from the fall semester in 2002 to the summer session of 2011 with AFAM department faculty and staff to provide athletes with benefits "not generally available to the student body.'' Those benefits included suggesting assignments to the department, turning in papers for athletes and recommending grades.

• Academic counselor Jan Boxill, who worked with women's basketball, provided improper assistance by sometimes adding content to athletes' papers. Also, in at least one case, she recommended a grade for submitted work.

• Former AFAM office administrator Deborah Crowder, one of two department staffers most directly linked to irregular courses in the department, didn't cooperate with NCAA investigators.

• Former AFAM department chairman Julius Nyang'oro, the other staffer most directly linked to the department's irregular courses, also declined to cooperate with the NCAA probe.


I looked at the 59 page report linked in the ESPN article. Here are some names I found mentioned.

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December 14, 2014 – Interview transcript of Roy Williams (R. Williams),
head men's basketball coach. This includes, but is not limited to, R.
Williams' concern about the number of men's basketball student-athletes
majoring in AFRI/AFAM.
(RWilliams_TR_120414_NorthCarolina_00231)


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FI239: January 27, 2015 – Interview transcript of Butch Davis (Davis), former
head football coach. This includes, but is not limited to, Davis' description
of the relationship between ASPSA and the football program.
(BDavis_TR_012715_NorthCarolina_00231)


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FI5: July 22, 2010 – Email from Jan Boxill (Boxill), then philosophy instructor,
director of the Parr Center for Ethics, women's basketball athletic
academic counselor in ASPSA and chair of the faculty, to Travis Gore
(Gore), administrative support associate in the AFRI/AFAM department.
This includes, but is not limited to, recommending a grade on a paper for a
then student-athlete.
(Item1_BoxillToGore_072210_NorthCarolina)


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FI9: September 23, 2008 – Email from Boxill to Crowder. This includes, but is
not limited to, Boxill stating that a women's basketball student-athlete only
needs a D in an AFAM course.
(Item1_BoxillToCrowder_092308_NorthCarolina_00231)


THIS IS A BIG ONE.
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June 19, 2009 – Email from Reynolds to Andre Williams (A. Williams),
former director of football student-athlete development. This includes, but
is not limited to, Reynolds' statement that Crowder was retiring from the
AFRI/AFAM department and that the football student-athletes should
expect C's and D's if they failed to turn in papers before Crowder's
retirement.
(Item8_WilliamsFromReynolds_061909_NorthCarolina_00231)


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FI98: February 26, 2008 – Email from Crowder to Blanton. This includes, but is
not limited to, Crowder mentioning that she would deliver signed forms
for student-athletes quietly so as not to raise suspicion.
(Item5_BlantonFromCrowder_022608_NorthCarolina_00231)



this one made me laugh. "caught you cheating, it's cool, just try again."
quote:

FI119: – Email from Crowder to , former football
student-athlete, and , former football student-athlete. This
includes, but is not limited to, Crowder expressing her disappointment that
the two student-athletes turned in the same paper, providing them with a
new assignment and pointing out how she usually gives them the benefit
of the doubt.
(Item2_CrowderTo _ _NorthCarolina_00231)


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FI252: PowerPoint drafted by Bridger for the football staff. This includes, but is
not limited to, Bridger pointing out that the staff put football studentathletes
into courses where they did not have to go to class, did not have to
meet with professors and did not have to pay attention or take notes.
(PowerPoint1_WainsteinSupplement_NorthCarolina_00231)


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Specifically, individuals in the academic administration on campus, particularly in
the college of arts and sciences, did not sufficiently monitor the AFRI/AFAM and
ASPSA departments or provide appropriate supervision for these academic units
and their staffs. The AFRI/AFAM department created anomalous courses that
went unchecked for 18 years.
This allowed individuals within ASPSA to use these
courses through special arrangements to maintain the eligibility of academically
at-risk student-athletes, particularly in the sports of football, men's basketball and
women's basketball.


Look at the date on this. This is AFTER the scandal already broke out. THEY STILL HAVE men's basketball players enrolled in the AFAM courses.
quote:


FI221: December 14, 2014 – Interview transcript of Roy Williams (R. Williams),
head men's basketball coach. This includes, but is not limited to, R.
Williams' concern about the number of men's basketball student-athletes
majoring in AFRI/AFAM.
(RWilliams_TR_120414_NorthCarolina_00231)


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FI240: November 5, 2014 – Interview transcript of Steve Robinson (Robinson),
assistant men's basketball coach. This includes, but is not limited to,
Robinson's description of how the men's basketball team handled
academic issues.
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Specifically, individuals in the academic administration on campus, particularly in the college of arts and sciences, did not sufficiently monitor the AFRI/AFAM and ASPSA departments or provide appropriate supervision for these academic units and their staffs. The AFRI/AFAM department created anomalous courses that went unchecked for 18 years. This allowed individuals within ASPSA to use these courses through special arrangements to maintain the eligibility of academically at-risk student-athletes, particularly in the sports of football, men's basketball and women's basketball


Dean Smith. Bill Guthridge. Matt Doherty. Roy Williams.

1993 - 2005 - 2009 ... let's see if the goats sacrifice those banners in order to escape sanctions. their arrogance will likely not let that happen.
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I honestly believe he was disgusted with things even though he had to know what was going on with Gilbert & the players all those years. Wooden certainly benefited from the talent, though.


I think that movie "Blue Chips" was a thin "fiction" of UCLA in the 60's and 70's. Like Dean Smith looking the other way at UNC, I think Wooden did the same. Neither may have come up with the schemes but I really believe they had broad if not full knowledge. Maybe within themselves it was *nudge nudge wink wink* so they would now have what refer to as plausible deniability.

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Condolences to his family for his passing, however he is not the 'saint' the media has long portrayed regarding his image and legacy.


I feel the same. Like Wooden, I think the media will continue to protect his "saintly" past.

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I've never been remotely enamored by anything Dean Smith did on or OFF the court.


I blame his "stall ball" for the eventual shot clock being employed to prevent it, yet they actually act like stall ball was good for college basketball because Dean Smith did it. Pete Correl @ Princeton controlled the ball but he did so with crisp passing, weaves, and backdoor cuts which at least made it fun to watch when run well, which Princeton did.


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I blame his "stall ball" for the eventual shot clock being employed to prevent it, yet they actually act like stall ball was good for college basketball because Dean Smith did it. Pete Correl @ Princeton controlled the ball but he did so with crisp passing, weaves, and backdoor cuts which at least made it fun to watch when run well, which Princeton did.



SCLibertarian and I had long conversations about the Princeton offense when we were at USC together. Big fan of that offense.

The Goats *should* be in serious trouble. I don't expect anything to happen, even now, but it's looking at least a little worse for them.


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re: UNC Admits Academic Fraud: Lack Of Institutional Controls, *NCAA Issues 3rd NOA
UNC media outlets are trying to report that the football team is safe. They said the punishment from two years ago covers these transgressions.

If you catch anyone saying that, let them know that 'YES, while the 2012 punishment was for academic fraud, that specific academic fraud was in relation to a tutor Butch Davis setup for the players to write papers for them...even for the paper/fake classes. These new academic fraud accusations were not part of the 2012 investigation/punishment and show an 18 year track record of systematic lack of institutional controls for all sports, including football.'

Though the NCAA is just a puppet organization and has as much integrity/credibility as SACS, neither of these bitches are going to do anything significant. They will lose some scholarships, forfeit some wins, maybe lose a banner or two, but there is no death penalty or massive reduction in scholarships coming their way. If penn state can rape boys and cover it up and be back up and running in 2 years, nothing significant is going to happen to unc.


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Big fan of that offense.


Me too!

Did you ever see the interview when Pete retired?

They were asking what he thought the biggest change in college basketball was during his career. You could tell the guy doing the interview was looking for something like 3 pt shot, free agency, freshmen starting, or the like.

Pete's response (paraphrased from a sometime faulty memory)
"when I started basketball players were thin and graceful like ballet dancers, now I get football players"


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UNC trying to give Roy Williams a contract extension


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From ESPNU ...

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/13012146/ncaa-charges-north-carolina-tar-heels-five-serious-violations

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NCAA charges UNC with five Level I violations in academic probe

North Carolina's long-running academic fraud scandal now includes five NCAA charges, including a lack of institutional control for poor oversight of an academic department popular with athletes and the counselors who advised them.

The school released a 59-page notice of allegations Thursday from the NCAA, which uses the document to specify violations uncovered during an investigation. The charges were more broad-based than focused on individual sports, with the NCAA regarding academic irregularities in the formerly named African and Afro-American Studies department as potential improper benefits by saying athletes received access to courses and other assistance generally unavailable to non-athletes.

No coaches were named in the five allegations, though one dealt specifically with the conduct of a women's basketball adviser for providing too much help on research papers.

UNC must file a response to the NCAA within 90 days of receiving the notice, which would likely lead to a hearing with the infractions committee followed by a ruling weeks to months later.

"Everybody wants to bring closure to this," athletic director Bubba Cunningham said Thursday. "It's not a pleasant chapter in the history of the university."

The list of charges include counselors providing "special arrangements" to athletes by working with AFAM faculty and staff, such as requesting course offerings or obtaining assignments for athletes, over a roughly nine-year period starting in 2002.

In charging a lack of institutional control, the NCAA said the school didn't do enough to monitor the AFAM department or the academic support program for athletes. That allowed counselors to use the irregular courses to help keep at-risk athletes eligible, "particularly in the sports of football, men's basketball and women's basketball," according to the notice.

All five charges are considered potential Level I violations, described by the NCAA as a "severe breach of conduct." Cunningham said it is too early to speculate on potential sanctions the school could face.

"Everyone who loves Carolina is truly saddened by these allegations," Hall of Fame basketball coach Roy Williams said in a statement. "We aspire to and work toward meeting higher standards than the actions that warranted this notice. Our university and numerous outside groups have looked at every aspect of our academic and athletic life. As a result, Carolina has implemented scores of new processes and checks and balances that have undoubtedly made us a better university. Hopefully, we will never again receive such a notice."

The NCAA reopened its investigation last summer into academic misconduct, an offshoot of a 2010 investigation into the football program that led to sanctions in March 2012. The focus was on courses that were often treated as independent studies requiring no class time and one or two research papers, with many operating that way despite being scheduled as lecture classes.

An eight-month investigation conducted by former U.S. Justice Department official Kenneth Wainstein stated that office administrator Deborah Crowder -- not a faculty member -- typically handed out assignments and high grades after only a scan of the work.

Wainstein's October report found problems running from 1993 to 2011 and affecting more than 3,100 students, with athletes across numerous sports accounting for roughly half the enrollments in problem courses.

The five charges listed in the NCAA's notice are:

• There was a lack of institutional control in failing to "sufficiently monitor" the interactions between the AFAM and the academic support departments, and athletes received "preferential access" to AFAM's irregular courses.

• Academic counselors "leveraged" relationships from fall 2002 to summer 2011 with AFAM faculty and staff to provide athletes with benefits such as suggesting assignments, turning in papers for them and recommending grades. In addition, 10 athletes exceeded UNC's 12-hour limit of independent study credits countable toward graduation between fall 2006 and summer 2011 due to misidentified "paper classes."

• Women's basketball counselor Jan Boxill provided improper assistance by sometimes adding content to athletes' papers and recommended a grade for submitted work in at least one case.

• Crowder, one of two AFAM staffers most directly linked to the irregularities, didn't cooperate with NCAA investigators.

• Former AFAM department chairman Julius Nyang'oro, the other staffer most directly linked to the irregular courses, also declined to cooperate.

Both Crowder, who retired in 2009, and Nyang'oro cooperated with Wainstein's probe amid the backdrop of a criminal fraud investigation. Boxill resigned in February as a philosophy professor after the school informed her it planned to fire her after the release of Wainstein's report.

The fraud case has led to several lawsuits from former UNC athletes against the school or NCAA, as well as questions from UNC's accreditation agency.

The school announced May 22 it had received the NCAA's notice but didn't release the document publicly until Thursday to redact information to comply with privacy laws.





Also ...

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NCAA's notice seems to have spared Roy Williams

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/13013267/north-carolina-tar-heels-notice-allegations-ncaa-looks-favorable-coach-roy-williams



Cheese Grits
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"Everybody wants to bring closure to this," athletic director Bubba Cunningham said Thursday.


yet they have now drug this out several years by fighting such massive indictments of wrongdoing.

UNC wants to bring closure but not at the expense of responsibility or acceptance of punishment via sanctions.

Meet the new UNC, same as the old UNC.


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UNC gets 1 year probabtion from accrediting body for academic fraud

An accreditation agency important to colleges receiving federal funds put the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill on probation Thursday for a year over its academic fraud scandal.

The board of Southern Association of Colleges and Schools' Commission on Colleges stopped short of imposing the harshest penalty, which would have blocked the country's oldest public university from receiving federal funds including student loan proceeds.

At a meeting in Portsmouth, Virginia, the group determined that UNC-CH failed to comply with seven key operating principles for member universities, among them: integrity, program content, control of intercollegiate athletics and academic support services.


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Slap on the hand.

This is going to be so pathetic.


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