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re: UNC Admits Academic Fraud: Lack Of Institutional Controls, *NCAA Issues 3rd NOA

Posted on 6/15/15 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by CockInYourEar
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 2:28 pm to
PROBATION!?!?!?

31 Students took fake classes over 2 years towards a M.Ed degree at Barber Scotia in NC, SACS took away their accreditation.

3,100 students took fake classes over 18 years towards a variety of degrees at UNC-CH in NC, SACS gives them probation.

Sure, makes sense. SACS accreditation is meaningless.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 9:11 pm to
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PROBATION!?!?!?


Yeah, at least it could have been double secret probation!

Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:24 pm to
Looks like the canary in the coal mine may be the UNC WBB team as another UNC player is leaving.

Gray granted release

Wonder where she will land, especially if she lands in the SEC.

FWIW, if Gray leaves that will be 3 of the 4 members of that recruiting class. Wonder what Stephanie will do this summer.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 3:27 pm
Posted by CockInYourEar
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 9:22 pm to
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Looks like the canary in the coal mine may be the UNC WBB team as another UNC player is leaving.


They got the mens BBall team in there too a lot, but unc put a spin job using redactions in the documents they released.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/unc-scandal/article24893245.html

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Redactions were to be expected when UNC-Chapel Hill made public the 730 pages of exhibits the NCAA’s enforcement division used to build its notice of allegations against the university. But some of them shield information that wouldn’t appear to run afoul of state and federal privacy laws.

Take, for instance, an email between Janet Huffstetler, the longtime men’s basketball tutor, and Jennifer Townsend, who became the academic counselor for the team in 2009. Huffstetler appears to be missing the days when Dean Smith was coach. She makes reference to changes that took place when Roy Williams took over in 2003, replacing academic counselor Burgess McSwain with Wayne Walden, who followed Williams from Kansas.

“Jenn, for many years, (redacted) was very separate from the Academic Center. Burgess McSwain whom I’m sure you have heard of, kept it that way because Coach Smith wanted it that way. He wanted the (redacted) boys to remain separate and not get lumped in the ‘athlete label’ that I’m sure you have witnessed, often works against them. After Burgess got sick, Coach Williams came, Wayne came, they put (redacted) in the middle of the Academic Center…”

It’s a pretty safe bet the redacted words here are “basketball” or “BB” or “MBB.” It’s difficult to see how their removal satisfies a privacy concern.

Smith and his successor, former longtime assistant coach Bill Guthridge, kept the academic support for his team separate from the Academic Support Program for Student-Athletes. That meant McSwain, a close friend of Deborah Crowder, the former African studies department manager and architect of the fake classes, had academic oversight for men’s basketball. Former Coach Matt Doherty, who ran the team from 2000 to 2003, told investigators last year that Smith and Guthridge wanted him to keep it that way.




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UNC has also redacted dates and course numbers from numerous emails the NCAA has cited in its case. One email, for example, shows that former football academic counselor Cynthia Reynolds asked Crowder if an athlete is running up against the limit of 12 credit hours of independent studies. It was not among the documents released in Wainstein’s investigation.
It would be important to know if that email was sent prior to the 2006-07 academic year, when UNC officials clarified that independent studies were not the correspondence courses being offered out of the Friday Center and were subject to a 12-credit-hour limit for special studies. The university, in a letter to the commission that accredits UNC, said earlier this year that 2006-07 academic year was when the limit was first established for independent studies, and the NCAA’s notice of allegations appears to be accepting UNC’s position.

Wainstein found that Crowder and others at UNC had interpreted the university’s longstanding policy on “special studies” pertained to independent studies. Crowder began disguising her paper classes as lecture courses in 1999 so students didn’t run into that limit, Wainstein said. Many of those who exceeded it were athletes.




^ Dean Smith, Roy Williams and Crowder were all in on the academic fraud.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 9:24 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 3:14 pm to
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FWIW, if Gray leaves that will be 3 of the 4 members of that recruiting class. Wonder what Stephanie will do this summer.


Another shoe drops!

Stephanie granted release from UNC

That means that #1 class from 2013 is now kaput.

On a related note, Gray has transferred to the Cocks. LINK
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 3:17 pm
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:27 pm to
I'm waiting for the shoe to drop on the football and men's basketball teams.

Something must be coming the way there seems to be an abandonment of the ship beginning.

Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 6:22 am to
From the SI article LINK

This was in the comments section

@tarredheel My family has lived in the area since before there was a United States. My ancestors donated hundreds of acres of land to the founding of the University of North Carolina. I'm a graduate of UNC at Chapel Hill. I'm hoping not for the NCAA 'death penalty' to be visited upon the university. I'm hoping for a new 'nuclear option' from the NCAA. Shut down the revenue sports permanently, and make sure that any faculty member participating in this fraud never teaches again at any level any where on the planet.
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 2:06 pm to
I have a UNC friend who served on their Board of Regents at one time and he feels the same way.
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:24 pm to
Roy "not sweating" Williams seems to feel the worst is behind UNC.

Deal has been cut.

Dean Smith gets off
Roy Williams gets off
UNC gets off

Wake Forest gets the death penalty and must vacate the ACC
Posted by CockInYourEar
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:19 am to
https://bobleesays.com/2015/07/16/earth-to-chansky-bonnie-clyde-answer-art/

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Earth to Art Chansky: It wasn’t about the women

In a recent commentary on WCHL, ardent UNC sports fan Art Chansky revealed his strategy for combating the NCAA’s Notice of Allegations [NOA] against the university’s athletic program: Blame it on the women! Complaining of women’s basketball coach Sylvia Hatchell’s (alleged) behind-the-scenes efforts to lobby for a contract extension comparable to the one recently offered men’s coach Roy Williams, Chansky griped that “an exit strategy should be [Hatchell’s’] play.” After all, Chansky claimed, “Hatchell’s program is in the most serious trouble from the NCAA’s Notice of Allegations,” given the high profile of women’s academic counselor Jan Boxill in the email documentation provided in the NCAA report. The whole NCAA investigation is a “witch hunt” with many victims, Chansky suggested, but the uncomfortable reality for women’s basketball is that “[Roy] Williams’ program was not cited in the NOA and Hatchell’s was.” Hatchell should therefore prepare herself to leave UNC “with grace.”




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The propaganda purposes of this particular commentary are obvious even by Chansky’s standards. No team is “cited” in the NOA if by cited one means singled out for likely punishment. As a team and as a program, women’s basketball is cited in the NCAA document no more and no less than any other team or program. (The NCAA’s NOA did note, however, that the “special arrangements” used for eligibility purposes at UNC had particularly benefited “the sports of football, men’s basketball, and women’s basketball.”) Chansky, in other words, is only continuing and amplifying the PR drumbeat that Roy Williams, Larry Fedora and others began some weeks ago, presumably at the urging of university lawyers. They have repeatedly announced that the big-time men’s revenue sports would seem to be in the clear and should expect no further punishment from the NCAA. They would have us believe that the NCAA is prepared to give football and men’s basketball a free pass even after the exposure of decades’ worth of fraud that clearly benefited the football and men’s basketball teams. And they are evidently all too happy to point the finger of blame in the direction of a women’s team in order to lower expectations about the sanctions likely to be imposed on the men’s teams.

Leaving aside the gender politics of this shameless PR strategy–will advocates for women’s sports stand by while….

…. male coaches, boosters, and UNC insiders labor to persuade the NCAA that the Crowder-Nyang’oro scheme was merely a big plot to help women?–Chansky and company face one very high hurdle in pursuit of their propaganda campaign. A mountain of direct and circumstantial evidence makes clear that UNC’s distinctive pattern of academic fraud was developed specifically to meet the needs of the men’s basketball team, and that the corruption reached its highest levels on Roy Williams’s watch.


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The first suspect independent study courses offered by Julius Nyang’oro in the late 1980s were offered to men’s basketball players, some of whom had abysmal SAT scores and perilously low GPA’s before they met professor Nyang’oro. Faculty friends in geography, French, and the school of education had been very helpful to the team throughout the 1980s. But when leadership of the AFRI/AFAM department fell into the laps of two allies of men’s basketball around 1990–Nyang’oro and his assistant Debby Crowder, whose close friend Burgess McSwain served as academic counselor for the men in her remote Smith center office–that department quickly became the go-to academic center for struggling (or academically uninterested) men’s basketball players.

The fraud would morph into a multi-team and three thousand-student debacle before all was said and done, but men’s basketball was always first in line for favors and fake classes. The needs of men’s basketball always came first in the eyes of Debby Crowder. And the 2005 men’s team, whose roster was stocked with players for whom both McSwain and Crowder felt great sympathy, benefited from unprecedented levels of favoritism. The team as a whole took well over one hundred paper classes; as one would expect, the starters on that team benefited disproportionately from the scam.
This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 9:22 am
Posted by CockInYourEar
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:51 am to
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/unsealed-documents-reveal-various-improper-benefits-received-by-unc-football-players-153142890.html

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Court documents unsealed in North Carolina show the various improper benefits given to Tar Heels football players that led to the program’s 2012 NCAA sanctions.
According to the Associated Press, the documents were unsealed in the case involving Christopher Hawkins, a former UNC and Marshall cornerback who was arrested in May and charged with violating North Carolina’s state sports agent law. Hawkins allegedly gave former UNC defensive end Robert Quinn $13,700 in cash and helped him sell game-used equipment for $1,700. Hawkins also allegedly improperly contacted another UNC player about potential representation.

According to the newly unsealed court documents, Hawkins acted as “an agent/runner” to provide illegal benefits to other athletes as well.


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Among the extra benefits revealed in the documents, defensive back Kendric Burney told investigators that he received “monthly payments” from Hawkins while an eligible athlete at UNC.




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Burney told investigators that Parker would invite athletes to the house he shared with Parker and there would be “envelopes with their names on them lined up on a table.”

Additionally, Quinn, now with the St. Louis Rams, and wide receiver Greg Little, an NFL free agent, said they received payments from Blazer.
Posted by CockInYourEar
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:30 pm to
https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article27955738.html

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UNC Athletic Director Bubba Cunningham refusing to renew Sylvia Hatchell’s contract.

Roy Williams and his program were in scandal report, and he got a contract extension.

The football program was in the report, and its coaches are telling recruits there will be no repercussions from NCAA investigation.




Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 8/8/15 at 3:30 pm to
no real news, just making sure this does not fall off the 1st page
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 11:14 pm to
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Another shoe drops!

Stephanie granted release from UNC

That means that #1 class from 2013 is now kaput.


She has officially now transferred to Ohio State. Looking at the Heels official site, looks like the 2015 - 2016 roster is now down to just 9 players from 13 or 14 last year. Looking like things will get worse before they get better.

Seems they are setting up the women's team to fall on the sword for football, and most importantly, mens basketball.
Posted by CockInYourEar
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:18 am to
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She has officially now transferred to Ohio State. Looking at the Heels official site, looks like the 2015 - 2016 roster is now down to just 9 players from 13 or 14 last year. Looking like things will get worse before they get better.

Seems they are setting up the women's team to fall on the sword for football, and most importantly, mens basketball.


I'm hoping the ncaa does the right thing and nails all the program with lack of institutional controls, but I won't be surprised when Commish Swofford (who was the unc AD when all the cheating started,) pulls his weight with the ncaa officials and they just blame everything on women's basketball (b/c that's why everyone cheats, they want great women's basketball teams.)
Posted by ConwayGamecock
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:38 pm to
Well, at least not EVERYONE at The Hill is taking the Three Blind Mice approach to the scandal:

Opinion: UNC should stand by employees in a consistent manner
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:51 pm to
ESPN reports more potential violations (of course aimed at the women and soccer but not football and m basketball)

LINK

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. -- North Carolina uncovered possible additional NCAA violations in women's basketball and men's soccer while preparing the response to its long-running academic scandal, the school announced Friday.
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 11:23 pm to
https://abc11.com/sports/grand-jury-indicts-former-unc-football-player/963760/

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HILLSBOROUGH, N.C. (WTVD) -- A grand jury has indicted a former UNC player who was arrested and charged with violating North Carolina's state sports agent law.

Defensive back Chris Hawkin was arrested back in May and faces two charges of trying to induce former Tar Heels defensive end Robert Quinn to sign a contract with him in 2010 -- by giving Quinn $13,700 in cash, and by helping him sell game-used equipment for another $1,700. Quinn now plays for the St. Louis Rams.

Hawkins, 32, also is charged with intentionally initiating contact with former UNC defensive back Jabari Price in 2013 via Instagram without being a registered agent, and of intentionally failing to register as an athlete agent.

North Carolina is one of 43 states with a sports agent law. Hawkins is the sixth person to be arrested in the North Carolina Secretary of State's long-running probe connected to improper benefits for Tar Heels football players. That probe began in summer 2010 amid an NCAA investigation into the program.
Posted by CockInYourEar
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 11:27 pm to
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ESPN reports more potential violations (of course aimed at the women and soccer but not football and m basketball)

LINK

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. -- North Carolina uncovered possible additional NCAA violations in women's basketball and men's soccer while preparing the response to its long-running academic scandal, the school announced Friday.




They are trying to push back the judgement until after basketball season.....go figure.
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Cunningham said he still hopes the investigation will be resolved by spring 2016.

Cunningham said he still hopes the investigation will be resolved by spring 2016.

Posted by CockInYourEar
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:12 pm to
There's more to it form this poster on the link. It's from an NCState fan on their Scout board.

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-- Research and intel is still being gathered on potential higher numbers, but it can be stated with confidence that there are currently (as of 9 OCT) four schools that have tasked their respective university legal teams with a “what if” scenario, so to speak. “If the NCAA does not take adequate action against UNC with regards to UNC’s academic infractions (when compared to our infractions, and the penalties we ultimately received), then what is our legal recourse?” And “legal recourse” doesn’t necessarily mean appeals – they are also talking about revenue compensation due to the unfair penalties, monies lost due to negative publicity, etc.

And an ironic twist that was revealed last week with regards to possible litigation: SMU is reportedly NOT one of those schools – at least not yet. Rumor is that they felt they were going to be shielded from major penalties BECAUSE they had Larry Brown. You can figure out why they felt that way… and the ramifications (to other certain schools) based on what was eventually handed down.

-- It has been mentioned earlier on the boards about a “general atmosphere that points to severe punishment”. This remains accurate, and has only grown stronger over the past month. There are numerous people who comprise the “pool” from which the eventual Committee on Infractions will be chosen (for UNC’s specific case). Fact: UNC has put out feelers to see if they can “stack the jury”, so to speak. Fact: Certain NCAA employees have (literally) laughed at this effort, going so far as to tell jokes (in private, of course) about those efforts. (once again… those previous statements are ones that I state as clear facts)

Regardless of those ill-intended efforts… some of the COI “pool” have received documentation (official, not rival-submitted) on the breadth of the scandal (including, but not limited to, numerous portions of the NOA’s supporting documentation that UNC redacted from its release), and a “rough draft” of potential penalties have been bandied about, off-the-record.

Some of those rumors have filtered back to Chapel Hill. Word from INSIDE THE SCHOOL is that reality may be finally setting in at the upper levels.


https://www.scout.com/college/north-carolina-state/forums/2515-packpride-sports/14183646-cheater-continuing-saga-strongly-recommend-page-2?s=178&page=2
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