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Thoughts on Shane Beamer
Posted on 11/13/20 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 11/13/20 at 5:36 pm
How would you feel if he was hired as HC? He was a very successful recruiter here. He is at Oklahoma right now.
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Posted on 11/13/20 at 6:13 pm to Carolina101
Absolutely not, let him cut his teeth at a g5 school or at least be a Coordinator first.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 6:14 pm to Carolina101
I would be fine with Shane Beamer. He has worked all over the place and has the connections to put together a good staff. He can recruit too. Way better than Muschamp.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:15 pm to Carolina101
I would be onboard with it for sure
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:55 pm to 29206_gamecock
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has the connections to put together a good staff.
We need our own Dabo.
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 11/14/20 at 12:02 am to Carolina101
I couldn't feel any worse about being a Gamecock than I have the last 5 years. I'd love to say that to Muschamps face but I don't think it would even matter. He's never, not once wanted to actually win here. I think Beamer actually would give a shite.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 8:33 am to Carolina101
Definitely not. We’re at a critical point in Gamecock Football where alumni and booster support is dwindling significantly. We’ve invested a great deal of money in improving our facilities and have had zero ROI. We only keep regressing while everyone around us gets better and better.
Shane Beamer has proven nothing. Why on earth, when our program is desperate for a proven winner, would we take a risk on a guy who has just floated around and hasn’t even been offered a HC role by a G5 school? Recruiting is just one aspect of the job, and we are currently witnessing a “good recruiter” run our program deeper into the dirt.
I get that we’re South Carolina and we always make stupid decisions, but to read that Beamer is actually on some “insider” short lists for HC is very troubling. He needs to prove he can lead a program first, we don’t have the luxury of giving him a few years to figure it out right now. That’s why Freeze needs to be our top priority.
Shane Beamer has proven nothing. Why on earth, when our program is desperate for a proven winner, would we take a risk on a guy who has just floated around and hasn’t even been offered a HC role by a G5 school? Recruiting is just one aspect of the job, and we are currently witnessing a “good recruiter” run our program deeper into the dirt.
I get that we’re South Carolina and we always make stupid decisions, but to read that Beamer is actually on some “insider” short lists for HC is very troubling. He needs to prove he can lead a program first, we don’t have the luxury of giving him a few years to figure it out right now. That’s why Freeze needs to be our top priority.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 2:34 pm to Bluefin
Not sure we will do much better. I mean Hugh freeze is the best option. Good coach great quarterback coach but I’m not sure Tanner would hire him cause he has some baggage. Same with the coastal Carolina coach. We will probably be stuck between hiring a Beamer or a Shawn Elliott or settle for another retread like Tom Herman or Mark richt. Getting rid of Muschamp is the easy part.
Many people think that it will take a Sam Pittman type to be our next coach. Again Hugh freeze in my opinion is the guy if Tanner would pull the trigger. We could probably get Hugh freeze.
Many people think that it will take a Sam Pittman type to be our next coach. Again Hugh freeze in my opinion is the guy if Tanner would pull the trigger. We could probably get Hugh freeze.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 4:03 pm to 29206_gamecock
Did you intentionally leave Napier out?
Posted on 11/14/20 at 4:24 pm to Carolina_Girl
I don’t know much about Napier but he seems to be someone that many fans think is a possibility. I have heard tony Elliott mentioned as well.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 3:07 am to Carolina101
Angry. This would be a trash hire
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:45 am to Carolina101
Can we all cut the shite? Literally 2 of the last 3 coaches to win the ship had no hc experience when they took over. In addition, Kirby smart, Lincoln riley... no hc experience. WTH are you guys even taking about.
Any of the beamers,napiers, chadwells etc could come and be a bust. I would argue that banner having first hand knowledge of the steps Kirby and Lincoln took to be successful is just as important. What guys like Napier and chadwell being to the table is offensive scheme. In case you haven't watched, we have no one to catch the ball. Assuming they could actually recruit, which we don't know, by the time they get the talent level where we'd need it to be able to capitalize on a new scheme, we'd have so much tape out there that the scheme wouldn't be an advantage anymore anyway.
Any of the beamers,napiers, chadwells etc could come and be a bust. I would argue that banner having first hand knowledge of the steps Kirby and Lincoln took to be successful is just as important. What guys like Napier and chadwell being to the table is offensive scheme. In case you haven't watched, we have no one to catch the ball. Assuming they could actually recruit, which we don't know, by the time they get the talent level where we'd need it to be able to capitalize on a new scheme, we'd have so much tape out there that the scheme wouldn't be an advantage anymore anyway.
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 6:47 am
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:21 am to GameCocky88
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Can we all cut the shite? Literally 2 of the last 3 coaches to win the ship had no hc experience when they took over.
They also took over programs that were in way, way, way, way, way, way better situations than South Carolina is now.
Billy Napier is the most appropriate option for South Carolina.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:50 am to GetCocky11
You're not wrong and napier does make sense. My argument is that saying no hc experience in and of itself isn't a valid argument against beamer. What it comes down to for him is who would he get for coordinators?
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:44 am to GameCocky88
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My argument is that saying no hc experience in and of itself isn't a valid argument against beamer.
But Beamer doesn't even have OC experience.
The best position he's had is Assistant HC, which is basically just Assistant to the Regional Manager.
He could be an awesome coach, but there is too much unknown and a risk for us to take at this point IMO.
ETA: I will say that I'd feel much better about hiring Beamer than I would for the likes of McElwain or some other proven failure. Just hope it doesn't come to that.
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 8:57 am
Posted on 11/16/20 at 9:09 am to Carolina101
If we hire Shane Beamer, we might as well start saving up for another buyout 3-4 years from now.
Just because someone has that coaching last name, doesn't mean they'd be a good head coach. How'd SOS Jr work out for us?
Just because someone has that coaching last name, doesn't mean they'd be a good head coach. How'd SOS Jr work out for us?
Posted on 11/16/20 at 9:09 am to Bluefin
That's true and there is precedent of those having been successful, albeit fairly rare. John harbaugh, Dabo and to a certain extent orgeron.
Beamer would absolutely be a more difficult interview bc he'd have to convince me of who he'd get to coordinate, why those guys and how realistic it is to get them. He doesn't have the track record to put people at ease.
To your point about AHC.... the question does remain... why would riley whos been successful at a storied program be willing to give beamer that title when he's really only been a TE/ST coach? There's def a skillset there
Beamer would absolutely be a more difficult interview bc he'd have to convince me of who he'd get to coordinate, why those guys and how realistic it is to get them. He doesn't have the track record to put people at ease.
To your point about AHC.... the question does remain... why would riley whos been successful at a storied program be willing to give beamer that title when he's really only been a TE/ST coach? There's def a skillset there
Posted on 11/16/20 at 9:31 am to GameCocky88
To be clear, I'm just playing devils advocate. Not sold on beamer either but the immediate disqualification seemed a bit much
Posted on 11/16/20 at 9:53 am to Bluefin
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But Beamer doesn't even have OC experience.
That sounds familiar, Dabo, Pittman, Oregeron, Meyer etc
Posted on 11/16/20 at 12:13 pm to Carolina101
Depressed.......
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