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RoyalAir
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re: This Darla Moore thing just nails the coffin shut
The snub had to have been intentional. Was Caslen still pissed that she opposed his hiring? If so, this was petty and foolish.

Was Moore more trouble than she was worth? Maybe, but her school was the only program we have that is of significant renown. Dropping her in this way only tarnishes the school, it doesn't help it at all.


Caslen has a long arse row to hoe to earn any political capital or social goodwill. He's off to a pretty dismal start.


Carolina_Girl
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re: This Darla Moore thing just nails the coffin shut
Found this interesting.

Shane Beamer and Bob Caslen were both at The Masters today but not together.

Shane was with Harris Pastides. Totally separate from Caslen.


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SOSFAN
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re: This Darla Moore thing just nails the coffin shut
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Caslen has a long arse row to hoe to earn any political capital or social goodwill. He's off to a pretty dismal start.


Caslen gave the marching orders to clip both Muschamp and Martin so he has some social good will from me.


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Bluefin
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re: This Darla Moore thing just nails the coffin shut
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The snub had to have been intentional. Was Caslen still pissed that she opposed his hiring? If so, this was petty and foolish.

If Caslen (either under the influence of the BOT or by his own intent) directly instructed our Stewardship Office not to reach out to Darla to at least offer condolences, then USC is officially the biggest shite show university in the country.

If our Stewardship Office simply wasn't aware of Darla's mother's condition and dropped the ball, it is an alarming view into the overall incompetence of our university and its leaders. A simple "We're praying for your family and are here for anything you need," even if you're feigning it due to recent disagreements, is Donor Relations 101.

Either way, you don't let political grudges spill over into family affairs. Darla was clearly looking for an excuse to publicly eviscerate our university after Caslen was forced through, but it shouldn't have been over something as effortless as offering condolences. Surely it was only a matter of time before we gave her another reason to do it.

Our entire university, from top to bottom, is amateur hour. Our president is a political puppet. And there's not a damn thing we can do about it.


GetCocky11
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re: This Darla Moore thing just nails the coffin shut
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Our entire university, from top to bottom, is amateur hour. Our president is a political puppet. And there's not a damn thing we can do about it.


The side effect of campus being literally across the street from the State House.

USC has been politically messed with since Reconstruction.


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crispyUGA
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re: This Darla Moore thing just nails the coffin shut
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The snub had to have been intentional.


Not necessarily. Central development was an absolute mess for a while, and that was exacerbated when they eliminated about 12 positions due to budgetary concerns (I would think that you'd want to keep those people who are responsible for bringing in money when you're worried about, well, bringing in money). I won't go into the details, but there was kind of a perfect storm of events that plausibly could have led to that ball getting dropped.


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SCLibertarian
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re: This Darla Moore thing just nails the coffin shut
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Would that mean we become a private school?

When 44% of your freshman class is from out-of-state, it's hard to argue that USC is still the University OF South Carolina.


zcoop
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re: This Darla Moore thing just nails the coffin shut
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Either way, you don't let political grudges spill over into family affairs. Darla was clearly looking for an excuse to publicly eviscerate our university after Caslen was forced through, but it shouldn't have been over something as effortless as offering condolences. Surely it was only a matter of time before we gave her another reason to do it.
I think the real rub for her was that Clemson (Her dad's alma mater), extended condolences and USC didn't until later. She donated to both schools but USC got the pork.


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I Bleed Garnet
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re: This Darla Moore thing just nails the coffin shut
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When 44% of your freshman class is from out-of-state, it's hard to argue that USC is still the University OF South Carolina.



Isnt Alabama now more out of state than In state?
ETA: looks like Clemson is similar to us (42% of freshman class from out of state)
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Cockopotamus
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re: This Darla Moore thing just nails the coffin shut
Schools get more money from out of state students so they make big efforts to recruit them.

Part of what’s driving all the amenities and new building/dorm projects


RoyalAir
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re: This Darla Moore thing just nails the coffin shut
But SCLib is right. The school shouldn't exist to cater to the Out of Staters. It exists for the locals. Full. Stop.

When USC goes out of its way to recruit others, many times those kids from Ohio and New Jersey don't leave. That changes the demographics of the state.


Cockopotamus
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re: This Darla Moore thing just nails the coffin shut
Oh I wasn’t trying to say it was a good thing. That’s just the reality of higher education economics when the federal government subsidies the entire cost.

Kids that would have been financially unable to go out of state can now go to the other coast on the federal government’s dime. And universities are taking advantage of that because they can charge more money for out of state tuition, even after offering a scholarship


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I Bleed Garnet
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re: This Darla Moore thing just nails the coffin shut
Why doesn’t the state of SC do what the state of NC does regarding out of state to in state?
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SCLibertarian
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re: This Darla Moore thing just nails the coffin shut
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Why doesn’t the state of SC do what the state of NC does regarding out of state to in state?

Because the state of NC has more people, better schools and less poverty than SC. They can get the cream of the crop from NC and then cherry pick whomever they want from out-of-state because UNC is basically a Public Ivy type school. I imagine that USC feels if 82% of our student body were in-state, our university rankings would fall drastically, due to either taking less students or taking more students with lower standardized test scores.


I Bleed Garnet
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Member since Jul 2011
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re: This Darla Moore thing just nails the coffin shut
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Because the state of NC has more people, better schools and less poverty than SC. They can get the cream of the crop from NC and then cherry pick whomever they want from out-of-state because UNC is basically a Public Ivy type school. I imagine that USC feels if 82% of our student body were in-state, our university rankings would fall drastically, due to either taking less students or taking more students with lower standardized test scores.

Oh
I see
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