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re: I’m tired of Frank Martin basketball

Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:29 am to
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:29 am to
Sin and PJ have been the best players he’s recruited.
In terms of pure talent
One ended up as a draft pick the other is seeing time in the G League
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 8:30 am
Posted by SECUSC4
Member since Jun 2018
1355 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:10 am to
I hate watching it. Its just passing around the top back and forth for a long time. I swear its like they dont know what to do on offense.

Whens baseball season start...
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13257 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:14 am to
Frank losing out on Juwan Gary was proof that he's not landing players like Sin and PJ again.

But I'm sure pulling in a top-rated player from Latvia or Belarus should make up for it.
Posted by Mr.Sinister
South Carolina
Member since Dec 2012
4956 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:34 am to
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Ive said this about Football and I'll say it about basketball.
I don't care if the kid kicks kittens on his spare time.

I don't either, not really a huge fan of basketball as it is. Point I was trying to make was Frank has become a better life coach than a basketball coach.

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Gimme a kid like Zion any day.

Said every other school that didn't land (pay enough) for him

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Who by the way I'm pleasantly surprised about.

Why?

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Thought he was going to be this one trick pony

One trick ponies don't have the type of hype that kid received

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Reminds me of Shawn Kemp and Charles Barkley.

Both of these guys were legitimate one trick ponies unless you count murdering buffets, which of course murdered their one trick basketball skills
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:40 am to
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One trick ponies don't have the type of hype that kid received

yes they do, his dunks were outrageous.
Have you also seen the social media hype these other two kids have gotten last year (Mac Mclung and Jordan McCabe)

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Both of these guys were legitimate one trick ponies unless you count murdering buffets, which of course murdered their one trick basketball skills

Eh, both were legitimate threats inside the paint had nice post moves, hall of famer players, rebounding, and just psychical.

When I mean a One Trick Pony I'm talking a guy like Darvin Ham, Larry Nance Sr, or Daryl Dawkins.

shite maybe even DeAndre Jordan, although he's 7 foot so doesn't work.

Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:40 am to
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Latvia

We need to recruit Porzingis' future son ASAP.
Posted by Mr.Sinister
South Carolina
Member since Dec 2012
4956 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:49 am to
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his dunks were outrageous.


They still are

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Have you also seen the social media hype these other two kids have gotten last year


Nah, gave up social media.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:01 am to
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They still are

Oh they are I meant, that's all we saw.

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Nah, gave up social media.


Yea Social media basically is now run by guys that can dunk or "jelly"

RJ Barrett who is far and away the best player in this class and the first overall pick didn't get nearly the amount of social media hype as the other guys because he didn't do what the people like.

Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25862 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:09 am to
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It’s like we have a first year coach every year

Same excuses every year. I get it’s a tough spot, but damn


And to think we could've had Gregg Marshall.


And I'm with you. I get that players have constantly been injured, gotten in trouble off the court, or are having some academic issues so it's been difficult to piece a full team together... but how many years are you not going to be able to to piece a team together because of those reasons? If it is happening every single year like it is, there's clearly a problem at the top.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37613 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:09 pm to
Anybody remember how the early schedule went the season we went to the Final Four?
Posted by KingSlayer
Member since May 2015
2854 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:17 pm to
I remember Thornwell missing games early that year. We got any Thornwell's showing up later this year? Not exactly the same situation.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 10:18 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37613 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:43 pm to
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And to think we could've had Gregg Marshall

Never could have.

He pissed off Mike McGee first.

Then he pissed off Hyman with his bullshite.

Ray Tanner would not even know where to begin with Marshall's ego.

Never was going to happen. Never will happen.

Marshall likes to tell everyone he's snubbed us twice already.

The guy has to be the center of attention.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 5:47 am to
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Anybody remember how the early schedule went the season we went to the Final Four?


In 16-17 without Thornwell we lost to Clemson, Seton Hall (in MSG went to that game, basically a home game for them) Memphis.
Not exactly bad losses.


That year we also beat a Ranked Michigan (Big Ten champs that year) and a ranked Syracuse in Brooklyn (i went to that game too practically a home game for them)
And a very good Monmouth team that won the MAAC and went 27-7

Then we went 12-6 in a munch weaker SEC with the SEC POTY.
The SEC seems to be stronger this year so I doubt 12-6 will happen
My predictions aren’t as good on conference record in hoops as they are in football so i don’t know what we will do. I’m guessing 4-14 or 5-13?

Only time will tell if the Wofford and Stony Brook losses are THAT bad, but those are one bid conferences and we shouldn’t be losing to them. Especially one by 20 at home
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 5:49 am
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:04 am to
We have a tough 3 game slate in a row of ranked teams after Coastal and Wyoming.


Top 5 @ Michigan, Top 5 UVA and top 25 Clemson.
We can’t win any of those games shooting 28% from 3
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51270 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:57 am to
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Anybody remember how the early schedule went the season we went to the Final Four?


We weren't losing to SoCon teams by 20 at home.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12184 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:25 am to
LINK /

Read this and see if it doesn't sound exactly what our program is going through now.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:57 am to
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Read this and see if it doesn't sound exactly what our program is going through now.

The only difference though is Frank oddly was much more successful at K State.

And they really didn't miss a beat when he left.

Maybe it was Brad Underwood?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12184 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:13 am to
Are you trying to compare the ff team to this years team? Sin isnt suiting up anytime soon.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25862 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:53 am to
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Never could have.

He pissed off Mike McGee first.

Then he pissed off Hyman with his bullshite.

Ray Tanner would not even know where to begin with Marshall's ego.

Never was going to happen. Never will happen.

Marshall likes to tell everyone he's snubbed us twice already.

The guy has to be the center of attention.


Cry me a river (the admin, not you rooster). I think the respective egos of Marshall, Hyman, and Tanner be damned when we're getting squashed by freakin' Wofford.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:13 am to
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Are you trying to compare the ff team to this years team? Sin isnt suiting up anytime soon.

I mean he may be comparing it to them? Or just asking how our OOC was, which we only lost 3 (we will probably go 6-6 in this years OOC)
And even without sin we had good wins as well as "good" losses.
We lost to Seton Hall by 3 (in MSG, homegame for them) and @Clemson by 2.

That was the time frame that Dozier really elevated his game (In that time he was named SEC POTW). I remember around then WAY too early mocks and NBA analysts talked about him being a draft pick. (I actually remember sitting near some Seton Hall alums, nice people and they were VERY impressed with the game Dozier had, really thought he had the talent to make it (which he technically is but didn't get drafted)

I don't see any NBA talent AT THIS MOMENT on the team right now.

This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 9:17 am
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