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how did the big actually vote
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:20 pm
does anyone have the actual vote tally
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:22 pm to robstuckinbama
Minnesota pres made it sound like they didn't even vote. Just a discussion and agreement. Who knows
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:22 pm to robstuckinbama
Nebraska and Iowa voted no in the original vote. Those are the only two Big Ten States that dont have NFL or Major professional sports teams.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:28 pm to robstuckinbama
I'm curious about that, and I'm also curious what the conference rules actually state.
Does the Big 10 specifically prohibit members from participating in sports they do not, themselves, sanction?
As I understand it, Missouri continues to field a wrestling program. It's not an SEC program, because nobody else in the conference has one anymore.
Right now, the Big 10 is not sanctioning fall football. That means there will be no 2020 Big 10 football champion.
That doesn't AUTOMATICALLY mean nobody can play.
Does the Big 10 specifically prohibit members from participating in sports they do not, themselves, sanction?
As I understand it, Missouri continues to field a wrestling program. It's not an SEC program, because nobody else in the conference has one anymore.
Right now, the Big 10 is not sanctioning fall football. That means there will be no 2020 Big 10 football champion.
That doesn't AUTOMATICALLY mean nobody can play.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:35 pm to Scoob
Who knows what the actual conference bylaws are, but at the least this is a "we can't stop you (Nebraska and Iowa) from playing, but we can dissolve your membership if you annoy us..." sort of thing.
With the way regional culture has evolved over the last hundred years, Nebraska and Iowa both fit better in the big 12 then the big 10, but there is no way those schools would ever consider jeopardizing their big 10 membership for one extra year of football let alone consider permanently changing conferences,
With the way regional culture has evolved over the last hundred years, Nebraska and Iowa both fit better in the big 12 then the big 10, but there is no way those schools would ever consider jeopardizing their big 10 membership for one extra year of football let alone consider permanently changing conferences,
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:59 pm to BearBait09
quote:I disagree.
With the way regional culture has evolved over the last hundred years, Nebraska and Iowa both fit better in the big 12 then the big 10, but there is no way those schools would ever consider jeopardizing their big 10 membership for one extra year of football let alone consider permanently changing conferences,
I'd never have thought Texas A&M would dream of cutting ties with Texas, but it's happened.
Nebraska tossed about a century's worth of history and tradition to the curb when they left Oklahoma. That didn't work out so well, this might actually be a good time for them to hit the reset button.
The Big 12 is full of teams that would love to play them again, while the Big 10 doesn't really give a shite about them one way or the other.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 3:05 pm to Scoob
Nebraska’s problem is recruiting.
They may as well just pull a Vandy and perennially soak in money without contributing bowl money to their respective conference.
Not only is the glory gone, but the window is getting much much smaller.
They may as well just pull a Vandy and perennially soak in money without contributing bowl money to their respective conference.
Not only is the glory gone, but the window is getting much much smaller.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 3:09 pm to Scoob
Everything you said is true but it doesn't matter, the big 10 is so far ahead of the big 12 in terms of clout, staying power, academics, the list goes on. The big 12 may be looking good in this one single comparison of likelihood of 2020 fall football, but every single other card in the deck favors the big 10. Nebraska is never going back.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 3:15 pm to BearBait09
quote:Pre-covid, no doubt, the Big 10 was better. But, don't underestimate the damage that will be done to the Big 10 if they don't play football this year. The financial hit will be long lasting. You also have to question the league's long term priorities--if the presidents are willing to indulge in virtue signalling by cancelling football while still holding in person classes, then you can only wonder as to what the next great woke gesture will be. That's not Nebraska, politically or culturally, but if that is going to be the prevailing attitude, then you have to wonder about their place in that kind of league.
Everything you said is true but it doesn't matter, the big 10 is so far ahead of the big 12 in terms of clout, staying power, academics, the list goes on. The big 12 may be looking good in this one single comparison of likelihood of 2020 fall football, but every single other card in the deck favors the big 10. Nebraska is never going back.
I doubt they will do it, but they ought to at least check out the possibilities.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 3:28 pm to robstuckinbama
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how did the big actually vote
By mail and without ID...
Posted on 8/12/20 at 4:15 pm to dstone12
quote:Nah. Their problem is not recruiting, it's self-awareness and being true to who/what you are.
Nebraska’s problem is recruiting.
They may as well just pull a Vandy and perennially soak in money without contributing bowl money to their respective conference.
Not only is the glory gone, but the window is getting much much smaller.
Nebraska has never, ever been about having tons of future NFL skill players all over the field. That's a Southern (SEC, the U, Fla State etc) thing.
It was about having the best Strength and Conditioning program, so you have the strongest players; and running a precise and disciplined triple option out of their version of the Power I.
That wasn't a formula to getting NFL players back then, it doesn't need to be now.
If Wisconsin can win 9-10 games a year relying on building the strongest players (not the most 5 stars), Nebraska could do that too.
Service academies give teams fits with their option games, and that's with players about half as good as what Nebraska could field in a couple years. You start winning at a reasonable rate, you get some TV coverage for big home games again. And then, you can go recruit a couple elite players that fit the schemes (defense, maybe some RBs), selling them on their being the difference that can turn the team from 9 wins to playoff contender.
The biggest problem Nebraska has, is that they actually tried to become a "modern" offensive team. It plays to every weakness they have, and doesn't play to any strength.
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