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re: Auburn police have arrested 16 y/o for manslaughter in death of RB and wife
Posted on 7/4/19 at 7:57 am to Jyrdis
Posted on 7/4/19 at 7:57 am to Jyrdis
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Doing 90 in a 55. Can’t wait to see this defense. Will the attorney argue that the kid didn’t know how fast he was going or wasn’t aware of how fast he was going? I suppose you’d have to be high for that to occur . Or will the attorney argue that he did know how fast he was going and (insert some convoluted idea) the kid should be set free?
You won't see anything because he's going to take a plea deal ASAP
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Posted on 7/4/19 at 8:24 am to greygoose
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I asked a question, then presented the facts, as we know them. Your deceptive tactic, attempted to combine the two. You are obviously a person of questionable intelligence.
I believe the lawyer said he was at the lake w his girlfriend and her parents. Haven't seen one report he was smoking weed with friends. And hard to believe he was smoking w/ someone's parent's around.
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:13 am to AuSteeler
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hard to believe he was smoking w/ someone's parent's around.
First time I smoked it was provided by one of my friends parents. that part is super easy to believe.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:00 pm to JamalSanders
if Alabama law allowed, if I were the DA, I'd drop charges on the 16 y/o (or reduce them to something minimal) and drop the hammer on whatever adult gave him weed if that is indeed what happened. That would be actual justice.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:12 pm to Tiguar
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if I were the DA, I'd drop charges on the 16 y/o (or reduce them to something minimal)
Damnit. I have always liked you
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drop the hammer on whatever adult gave him weed if that is indeed what happened.
Should happen as well if that is what happened and they can prove it.
Dropping charges on people who make mistakes are how the wheels start to fall off
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:15 pm to LanierSpots
Charges should only be dropped if the weed was found to be a significant contributor.
A 16 year old is still a kid from a risk/benefit assessment standpoint. They aren't completely developed to meaningfully assess the risks of driving under the influence.
It's up to the adults in the room- if an adult gave him weed and let him drive resulting in deaths, it's the adults fault almost entirely.
A 16 year old is still a kid from a risk/benefit assessment standpoint. They aren't completely developed to meaningfully assess the risks of driving under the influence.
It's up to the adults in the room- if an adult gave him weed and let him drive resulting in deaths, it's the adults fault almost entirely.
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:21 pm to Tiguar
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A 16 year old is still a kid from a risk/benefit assessment standpoint. They aren't completely developed to meaningfully assess the risks of driving under the influence.
IF that is your opinion then 16 year olds should not be allowed to drive a car without another adult in the car. You cant have the same freedom without the same responsibility.
Its a big part of what is going bad with our country right now. You can not have it both ways. If you take the wheel, you are just as responsible as the other drivers on the road
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:31 pm to Tiguar
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it's the adults fault almost entirely.
Perpetuating the societal decline where accountability isn't mine, but someone else's.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:35 pm to LanierSpots
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IF that is your opinion then 16 year olds should not be allowed to drive a car without another adult in the car. You cant have the same freedom without the same responsibility.
Not at all an equivalency to what I'm saying. The kid is responsible for his actions in the car unless someone who knows better impeded his actions by giving him an illegal substance.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:36 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Perpetuating the societal decline where accountability isn't mine, but someone else's.
It's literally someone else's fault if someone gave the kid weed and the weed was found to be a contributing factor.
Adults are in positions of authority for a reason.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:44 pm to Tiguar
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It's literally someone else's fault if someone gave the kid weed and the weed was found to be a contributing factor.
So you are saying the "adult" forced the 16 year old to smoke pot or the 16 year old "elected" to smoke it?
If a 16 year old can not decide wether or not to smoke pot and then drive a car and the responsibility is on the person who he got it from, then we are in a much worse condition than I thought
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:49 pm to Tiguar
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It's literally someone else's fault if someone gave the kid weed and the weed was found to be a contributing factor.
So you are saying that if a adult offered a 16 year old alcohol and the kid elected to drink it and drive, then the kid is not really at fault but the responsibility solely lies on the adult?
Im sorry, I just can not accept that
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:50 pm to LanierSpots
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You can not have it both ways. If you take the wheel, you are just as responsible as the other drivers on the road
I agree. “He’s just a kid” doesn’t fly when the kid holds real world responsibilities with life or death consequences.
That’s like saying “poor Johnny. He was only seventeen when he accidentally shot his friend while hunting. Complete accident. He’s an A&B honor roll student and attends my church.”
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:50 pm to Tiguar
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It's literally someone else's fault
Okay
Posted on 7/5/19 at 1:40 pm to Tiguar
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It's literally someone else's fault if someone gave the kid weed and the weed was found to be a contributing factor.
Exhibit A as to why you should never trust your peers as jurors.
Posted on 7/5/19 at 1:46 pm to HailToTheChiz
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Exhibit A as to why you should never trust your peers as jurors.
Not pilling on Tigur cause I usually like her better than most of you but I have been on some Jurys that your statement is 100% correct. I am serious
I was on a Jury in Hall County a few years back where I 17 year old "kid" was in possession of a stolen (stripped to the bone) car and was being tried for a few different things. Possession of stolen property, no license, no insurance, etc. It was a trial that should have taken about 5 mins.
Basically this kid was working for a chop shop. He was driving a vehicle (pretty new Acura) from being stripped to where ever they take them. Got pulled over for swerving and it all went bad from there
I was the foreman on the jury and the very first thing we did was take a vote to see where everyone was before we started discussion. Everyone except one lady voted guilty of all counts. She would not budge and had no rational to her vote other than, "She didnt think he stole it". Which was not even up to us to decide
In the end, she came out and said, "I have a 17 year old son and I would like to think if he did something wrong, there would be atleadt one person on the jury who would give him a second chance". No shite
5 hours later we got to go home
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