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Saban speaks about Tua's season
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:43 pm
Saban speaks about Tua's season with the NFL Network:
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On Tua Tagovailoa: “I think Tua played for the first seven or eight games last year, if it’s possible to play perfectly — take care of the ball, no interceptions, really high completion percentage, take what the defense gives — and I think he did that flawlessly in our first seven, eight games. Then you start thinking about, ‘Well, I’m going to try to make some plays here, and I’m going to throw the ball down the field.’ And I think when you get out of that and you start to be a little more outcome-oriented, worrying about the result rather than just staying focused with the process and taking what they give you, I think you put yourself at risk to make mistakes, and I think Tua did that a little bit down the stretch. I think he learned from that, and I think we want him to be the guy that just makes the decisions that he needs to make to make good plays down in and down out and not try to force plays downfield and make big plays.”
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:46 pm to Bham4Tide
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“I think Tua played for the first seven or eight games last year, if it’s possible to play perfectly — take care of the ball, no interceptions, really high completion percentage, take what the defense gives — and I think he did that flawlessly in our first seven, eight games
oh, no way. Some folks, even Alabama fans, have decided that Tua is a one read qb. Taking what the defense gives you obviously implies otherwise.
That silly Saban.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 1:53 pm to John Milner
Tua is projected as a number 1 draft pick for a reason. The nitpicking is crazy.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 3:24 pm to Bamaorbust
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Tua is projected as a number 1 draft pick for a reason.
And set a ncaa record for passing efficiency.
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The nitpicking is crazy.
But the worst thing is that he proved in the early part of the season that he was, in fact, good at working through his progressions. Some folks evidently just totally ignore the fact that the injuries affected his entire game.
He did, though, get the stars in his eyes when the Heisman talk heated up, and started favoring the long ball for those ESPN highlights. Some folks, though, talked like he just did not and evidently could not work through the progressions. One read they said. That's bullshite and Nick Saban obviously doesn't agree with them.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 9:56 am to John Milner
Honestly I think the Georgia game needs to be thrown out as one massive outlier. Combine the fact that that was probably the most hurt he played during a game with all of the drops and you just cant really derive much from that game
Take out that game and here are Tua's stats in 5 games against top 20 defensive efficiency teams
1343 Yards (267 pg)
65% Completion
8.9 ypa
13.7 per completion
13 touchdowns and 4 Interceptions
All in all pretty awesome against elevated competition
Against 3 top 10 defenses:
754 yards (251 per game)
63% completion
7.8 ypa
12.4 per completion
5 touchdowns and 4 interceptions
Not great obviously but this is against the best of the best with questionable health. And even here the only negative stat is the interceptions
Take out that game and here are Tua's stats in 5 games against top 20 defensive efficiency teams
1343 Yards (267 pg)
65% Completion
8.9 ypa
13.7 per completion
13 touchdowns and 4 Interceptions
All in all pretty awesome against elevated competition
Against 3 top 10 defenses:
754 yards (251 per game)
63% completion
7.8 ypa
12.4 per completion
5 touchdowns and 4 interceptions
Not great obviously but this is against the best of the best with questionable health. And even here the only negative stat is the interceptions
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:11 pm to Glorious
Mississippi State showed teams how to defend Tua if you have the talent and UGA used their script to shut him down.
Clemson had an even better plan because they had been game-planning for him the entire season (per their own admission).
It’s up to the coaches and Tua to make the necessary adjustments, but we won’t know where we stand until LSU or potentially UGA in the SECCG IMO.
Clemson had an even better plan because they had been game-planning for him the entire season (per their own admission).
It’s up to the coaches and Tua to make the necessary adjustments, but we won’t know where we stand until LSU or potentially UGA in the SECCG IMO.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:24 pm to tide06
I completely agree, until:
It is up to the coaches to make the necessary adjustments, and this was talked about at length by Todd Blackledge in the Spring game, when he repeatedly mentioned Sark wanted to get back to doing more "full read" type passing attack, as opposed to the "half-read" stuff associated with the RPO game, particularly as the field shrinks in plus territory and the red zone.
Regarding the bolded portion, we'll know in September if the coaches have changed the passing attack, and we'll know in 2 ways:
1) We can see it and it's clear as day.
2) We see if other teams are having success with the gameplan mentioned in your first two lines, as any team with any sense is going to utilize it. No, not everyone has the horses than Miss St, GA, and Clemons had last year, but the defensive gameplan will still be on the TV screen plain as day, and we'll see how we fare.
If Tua is routinely or semi-routinely throwing into coverage or not finding the open man by going through his progression, then we'll know. And both Duke and SoCar are good enough to show us that.
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It’s up to the coaches and Tua to make the necessary adjustments, but we won’t know where we stand until LSU or potentially UGA in the SECCG IMO.
It is up to the coaches to make the necessary adjustments, and this was talked about at length by Todd Blackledge in the Spring game, when he repeatedly mentioned Sark wanted to get back to doing more "full read" type passing attack, as opposed to the "half-read" stuff associated with the RPO game, particularly as the field shrinks in plus territory and the red zone.
Regarding the bolded portion, we'll know in September if the coaches have changed the passing attack, and we'll know in 2 ways:
1) We can see it and it's clear as day.
2) We see if other teams are having success with the gameplan mentioned in your first two lines, as any team with any sense is going to utilize it. No, not everyone has the horses than Miss St, GA, and Clemons had last year, but the defensive gameplan will still be on the TV screen plain as day, and we'll see how we fare.
If Tua is routinely or semi-routinely throwing into coverage or not finding the open man by going through his progression, then we'll know. And both Duke and SoCar are good enough to show us that.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:29 pm to prevatt33
To me, what is really going to be the change that coaches need to make is in self-scouting the offense. It's imperative that Bama does one or both of the following things:
1) Don't put obvious tendencies on film for teams later in our schedule, or...
2) If they do put tendencies on film in the first half of the schedule, identify them and go against tendency in the second half of the season and into the postseason.
I don't know which analysts we have and who might be responsible for self-scouting our passing attack, but he might be the most important person in Tuscaloosa regarding a championship next year. He sure as hell was last year, and he either failed or wasn't listened to.
1) Don't put obvious tendencies on film for teams later in our schedule, or...
2) If they do put tendencies on film in the first half of the schedule, identify them and go against tendency in the second half of the season and into the postseason.
I don't know which analysts we have and who might be responsible for self-scouting our passing attack, but he might be the most important person in Tuscaloosa regarding a championship next year. He sure as hell was last year, and he either failed or wasn't listened to.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:39 pm to prevatt33
For those interested regarding Alabama's off-the-field coaching staff, this is the best info I could find:
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Buth Jones is not mentioned in the article, but he's obviously still hanging around.
The additions of note seem to be Major Applewhite, Mike Stoops, and AJ Milwee as off/def analysts, and "Iowa State’s Joe Houston and Virginia Tech’s Johnathan Galante as quality control staffers to assist with special teams" as our 2 special teams analysts are gone from last year.
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Buth Jones is not mentioned in the article, but he's obviously still hanging around.
The additions of note seem to be Major Applewhite, Mike Stoops, and AJ Milwee as off/def analysts, and "Iowa State’s Joe Houston and Virginia Tech’s Johnathan Galante as quality control staffers to assist with special teams" as our 2 special teams analysts are gone from last year.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:33 pm to tide06
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Mississippi State showed teams how to defend Tua if you have the talent and UGA used their script to shut him down.
I agree with half that...Tua's high ankle sprain during Bama's first series might've had more to do with him getting shut down than UGA following MSU's script...
Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:53 pm to OldPete
He had a bad fame against Georgia. It happens.
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