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re: Look Back at it...

Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11480 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:27 pm to
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Well this is a rebuilding year and it’s important to establish your processes while trying to win every game. You have to build upon a base and foundation. It’s how it has always been. This isn’t video game football where you get immediate satisfaction by learning cheats to win.

It is through hard work and repetition. Harsin isn’t concerned about making you happy. He’s busy building a program for long term success. It may be bumpy and frustrating, but it’s being done so we can celebrate a lot of wins every year.

Look, I understand that, but at the same time, no one is buying a ticket, or tuning in to see us lose a winnable game because we are "working out the kinks for the future".

For fricks sake, we can't blitz during this rebuilding year? Are we doomed to see a constant 3 man rush and letting the QB have an eternity to find an open receiver?

We are in for a long arse season if we continue down the path we took Saturday night, in regards to defense. When's the last time Ole Miss put a beat down on Auburn? I'm 51, and that was always and expected win. We run that same defense scheme against them, and Kiffin will name the score.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28909 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:33 pm to
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Are we doomed to see a constant 3 man rush and letting the QB have an eternity to find an open receiver?


The 3-man rush verbiage isn’t correct. Playing 3 d-lineman means they’re supposed to create a “wall” of sorts which free’s up the LB’s and DB’s to fly to the ball.

Saban has done this this for years. Problem was we never ran any LB or DB blitzes to rattle their QB. That’s all on Mason.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11480 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:46 pm to
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The 3-man rush verbiage isn’t correct. Playing 3 d-lineman means they’re supposed to create a “wall” of sorts which free’s up the LB’s and DB’s to fly to the ball.

Saban has done this this for years. Problem was we never ran any LB or DB blitzes to rattle their QB. That’s all on Mason.

You get what I'm saying. The only pressure was from our 3 DL, which was no pressure.

Their QB was 28-32. That is a ridiculous stat and that should occupy Mason's mind going forward, especially considering who is left on the schedule. Otherwise, he might not be around next year to see his scheme and plan, play out.

We all were calling for Gus' head over our losing record to our rivals. What do we say when we aren't even competitive against them and get beat by the Mississippi schools and their air-raid offenses? I hate what I saw Saturday, and I more disturbed by the lack of adjustments to correct the problem during the game. Apologists will do what they are good at, and tell me to "just wait", just like I heard the last few years seeing "whirlybirds" "backward passes" and "spiking the football backwards".

Piss poor coaching isn't that hard to identify, and I saw a seasons worth on Saturday.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
37147 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:08 pm to
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We talking defense pass coverage, not switching from a Pro-style offense to the wishbone.
I see no reason why we would go man unless to blitz the shite out of the offense. DL is too weak.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
17064 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:20 pm to
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I see no reason why we would go man unless to blitz the shite out of the offense. DL is too weak.


Exactly. Blitz, blitz, blitz

If the option is a slow death touchdown drive, or risking giving up a big play but also a good chance of getting a stop, give me option 2.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11480 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:28 pm to
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I see no reason why we would go man unless to blitz the shite out of the offense. DL is too weak.

Let me ask you 3 questions:

Did we go man and blitz?

Did their QB go 28-32?

Did we win?

Nick Fairly and Derrick Brown ain't stepping thru the door, so Mason had better start dialing up some stunts for our VERY athletic LBs!
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 9:30 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105551 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:55 pm to
I get it, but you just keep going on and on and on as if your bitching here will make it all better. The same bitching at that.

We already know bro and yes I want some of the same things but it just isn't going to always work out.

I already expected a long season, but hoping for some magic.

14-1 Ship!


Never mind me. Carry on with your heartache and anger. It is not for me stop that. I have decided to try and be nicer and kinder. Melt away fellow Aubie.

This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 11:47 pm
Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2026 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:18 am to
Serious question: how did Derek Mason's defense at Stanford perform against pass-happy teams?
Posted by AUDevil
Somewhere
Member since Jul 2016
704 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:52 am to
According to Tate or BMatt we ran 10 blitz plays. I only remember 3 - one on the first drive, another on the INT (delayed), and another where our LB fell down got back up and the QB still had another 3 seconds to throw the ball while standing still.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105551 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:50 am to
2010 he was the DB coach so I didn't use that because I don't know if it was the scheme he uses as a DC.

He was CO DC in 2011 and they allowed 253 yds passing per game and team D they allowed 21.9 pts per game. 7 interceptions, 1 returned for td.

He was DC in 2012 and they allowed 239.6 in passing yds and 17 pts per game as a defensive unit. 15 Interceptions w 4 returned for TD's.

Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11480 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:10 am to
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I get it, but you just keep going on and on and on as if your bitching here will make it all better. The same bitching at that.

We already know bro and yes I want some of the same things but it just isn't going to always work out.

I already expected a long season, but hoping for some magic.

14-1 Ship!


Never mind me. Carry on with your heartache and anger. It is not for me stop that. I have decided to try and be nicer and kinder. Melt away fellow Aubie.

Have another upvote.

This one hurt more than a blowout, so yep, I'm melting.

I'm hoping for some magic too. Hopefully, our coaching staff saw exactly what we have in regards to personell, and positive changes are coming. I don't know if it's a good thing, or a bad thing that we have another cupcake coming up, but I imagine, if Mason is as smart as I think he is, we will see more stunts in prep for upcoming opponents.

BTW, our OL coach should get a raise.
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 11:10 am to
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BTW, our OL coach should get a raise.


How about a gold star after the first few games.

Now if the OL gives an A/B performance against GA, I'm which ya on the raise...
Posted by EssexTiger
Maryland
Member since Apr 2020
143 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 4:47 pm to
Ironically I believe our offensive personnel are better suited for a wishbone than pro-style offense this year; a pair of great running backs who should be on field together, good running QB, and adequate line, but a less than average if not poor receiver group. Not saying we should switch to wishbone, but our offensive personnel might be a better fit for it this year.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10669 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 6:21 pm to
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I'm more miffed over the things we COULD'VE controlled, but failed at. I just can't in good conscience blame the refs for this loss


This is the right attitude to have. We will move on and improve.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
16130 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 6:47 pm to
We lost.

We did enough poorly to lose.
We need to get it corrected ASAP.

The refs were pitiful.
Losing track of a down is an egregious error.
The targeting review was a makeup call and should be reversed by league review.

The PI calls are judgment calls. It’s whatever they say.
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
19755 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 8:03 pm to
The reality is their qb played pitch and catch with his receivers. I think bobo panicked a little early and got away from what's been working for us. It was very winnable but we got beat fair and square.
Posted by AUBUC
Auburn
Member since Aug 2015
2 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 11:45 am to
Exactly this! We had 18 targets on Jackson and Robinson and only got 7 catches from them, they gotta do better there! 2-8 for Jackson and 5-10 for Robinson. Not saying we win if they do better, but our chances increase dramatically. I just hope they realize this as a team and continue on confidently knowing they played a good game in a hostile environment and can beat good opponents.
Posted by AUDevil
Somewhere
Member since Jul 2016
704 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 12:10 pm to
Jackson should only be out there when we're 4 or 5 wide. Robinson is a solid #2 receiver. Need to magically have a #1 step forward. Hudson's a good #3...can make plays after the catch.

Right now I think our most consistent passing play is the check down to the RB or TE.
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