re: Who did Big Six snobs want in the SEC instead of Carolina and Arkansas?

Texas and Florida State were our first choices but they both declined. But we needed 12 teams for the SECCG so we settled for Arky and SCar.

I can’t speak for everyone but if I were to guess, we didn’t mind Arkansas and Carolina. It’s the 2012 expansion that is the controversy. We wanted a Texas team but we didn’t get the one we wanted. We wanted a team from the upper south/Midwest and we didn’t get the one we wanted.

Mizzou and Aggie fans can cry all they want. OU and Texas were preferred. If that would have killed the big12 then so be it.

I would dump Mizzou and Mississippi State

Upgrade by adding Florida State



As pitiful as Arkansad is in football, and as a state, they do add competitive value in mid/low-tier sports

Mizzou is an obvious first choice to oust. They don't fit in, they're not good at anything, they're ugly, and they put us over capacity on Tigers. The only value they bring us academic, and Georgia Tech would more than make up for that loss.

South Carolina I like on a personal level so I would vote to keep them, but at the same time they're kind of meh. It wouldn't break my heart if they were replaced with Clemson.

Mississippi State should've been dumped decades ago. Literally the only thing they have in their corner is being a charter member, which is overrated tbh. They add absolutely no value, other than being cannon fodder for the rest of the conference. They're bottom of the barrel in all aspects, across the board athletically, academically, culturally, just ugly people outside and inside. They're a Sunbelt program without that SEC patch on their uniforms

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I'll bet Tennessee wanted Virginia Tech and North Carolina, since Tennessee confuses eastern with southern

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Those who are new to the conference, may not truly understand its history.

Here is how times Tennessee has played Georgia Tech, compared to the rest of the current SEC members.

Kentucky - 88
Alabama - 87
Vanderbilt - 86
Ole Miss - 56
Auburn - 52
Florida - 45
Georgia Tech - 44
Georgia - 39
Mississippi State - 34
LSU - 31
USCe - 29
Arkansas - 16
MIZZOU - 9
aTm - 2


The fact that Bobby Dodd (a UT graduate) took Georgia Tech out of the SEC because he was sick of Bear Bryant's cheating, doesn't dissuade UT from wanting Georgia Tech back. The fact that it would piss off UGA would only icing on the cake.

Read up on the conference, newbie.