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re: NCAA looking to punish schools in states with transgender laws
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:01 am to Pickle_Weasel
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:01 am to Pickle_Weasel
At this point, some country just needs to field a bunch of dudes and slap the USWNT's shite in the World Cup. Some of the idiots out there clearly need a demonstration
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:06 am to Tackle74
Even the science is not on their side.
Per the NCAA, they must suppress their testosterone. That does not change the make up of the man's bosy to a woman.
Bones are different and muscle make up is different and ALWAYS WILL be no matter how much suppression you do, he is still at a major advantage.
Per the NCAA, they must suppress their testosterone. That does not change the make up of the man's bosy to a woman.
Bones are different and muscle make up is different and ALWAYS WILL be no matter how much suppression you do, he is still at a major advantage.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:26 am to Jjdoc
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Per the NCAA, they must suppress their testosterone. That does not change the make up of the man's body to a woman.
I’ve seen it stated that athletes who use PEDs will always have some of the advantages of use, even if they are caught, serve a suspension, and return.
To parallel that, natural male hormones present at any point should create similar/permanent advantages, whether still measurable or not.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:28 am to HotRock
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One of these is not like the other, they don't compare.
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This Gender issue is bull sh*t for sure but when you argue the Confederate flag should be allowed to fly over our state capital then you lose all credibility
Yeah I didn't throw that out there as support for the old flag. I was a huge supporter of a new flag and a change. I was simply trying to get across that Mississippi isn't getting any favors regardless of whether it goes the way of NCAA or national whims, or not.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:28 am to paperwasp
The greatest shame of America is a homeless veteran.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:41 am to Smokeyone
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6 per 1,000 in a country of 330,000,000 is still around 2 million if my math is close. Statistics would say roughly half are male so 1,000,000ish. Of those that would be between 13-30 (competitive age for most sports) would be at best 500,000ish? Of those actually interested in playing sports is probably under 25,000. So the NCAA is claiming to want make national policy for 25-50,000 highschool kids at best. That’s the tipping point?
Those aren't exactly conservative estimates either. According to ncaa.org, there are approximately 8 million high school athletes and 480,000 NCAA athletes for a total of around 8.5 million amatuer athletes. You also need to remove football since there aren't male football and wrestling players trying to play female football/wrestling since there is no female football/wrestling. So if we remove football and wrestling players from the equation, that leaves a total of 3,031,410 male high school athletes and 171,965 male college athletes across all divisions. That's a grand total of 3,203,375 amatuer athletes. If you take 0.6% of that number, you get a total of 19,220 athletes nation-wide. The problem is I still don't believe that 0.6% of the population being transgendered is accurate. Further, the percentage of transgenedered athletes is likely lower than the percentage of trasngendered people in the general population. To take it even further, the number of transgendered male athletes that would actually want to compete in female sports if allowed is very likely a much, much smaller percentage than that of people who "identify" as the opposite sex. The "0.6%" number is from a study that was on the higher end. Other studies show numbers as low as 0.3%, and those numbers also vary greater state-to-state. If we took the 0.3% number, that ~19k amatuer athletes gets cut in half to under 10k.
(Source LINK .)
So in conclusion, in typical liberal fashion, the NCAA is trying to dictate policy based on a subset of the population, at the absolute highest, under 10,000 people in a country of 330 million people. It's madness. But if we are to even accept these transgender numbers as accurate (I personally don't), it still fails to reconcile the inherent biological differences between people born males and people born females. After this country spent years promoting fair play and equal opportunities for female student athletes, this new frontier is basically spitting in the face of female athletes everywhere and taking away opportunities that wouldn't otherwise have. Is this really the road they want to go down? To sacrifice scholarship and playing opportunities for female athletes so a statistically irrelevant portion of the male population can compete in female sports for some super-woke agenda? The separation of sexes in sports has nothing to do with segregating girls from boys for comfort. They're seperated because girls are not physically equipped to compete against boys. For the party that is all about science, it's amazing how much they ignore basic human biology.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:47 am to Miznoz
quote:I'm waiting on the money sports for women to get hit.
Biggest piece of shits are the athletes only changing gender so they can win.
How fricked up must these people be on the inside to do that?
How much does Wimbledon and the US Open etc pay out in tennis? It's pretty commonly accepted that a Top 100 male would destroy Serena in her prime. Wait until one of them decides to wear a miniskirt and does just that. He could identify as a trans-lesbian, and keep his girlfriend too
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:51 am to Pickle_Weasel
Politics need to stay out of sports.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:53 am to Scoob
Could imagine an all 16 year old boys travel soccer team replacing the kneelers one the woman’s team and getting the gold?
Posted on 4/13/21 at 12:03 pm to Pickle_Weasel
The SEC should say frick the NCAA and run their own leagues with their own rules. Let’s see which withers and dies first from lack of TV funds the SEC or NCAA.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 2:36 pm to Jma313
Agree Jma313. SEC played an SEC only schedule this past year and it worked out pretty damned well. Continue to play a 10 game all SEC schedule and find 2 OOC opponents. Hell, if necessary play a 12 game all SEC schedule.
Should be able to find 2 OOC opponents because the Division 1 college football world will realize in short order they can't survive without the SEC. Can't state for certain but my guess is the SEC props up the rest of the conferences because the SEC likely generates more revenue than any other one conference and probably more than some combined.
The NCAA would immediately collapse so where else would these other schools/conferences turn.
Should be able to find 2 OOC opponents because the Division 1 college football world will realize in short order they can't survive without the SEC. Can't state for certain but my guess is the SEC props up the rest of the conferences because the SEC likely generates more revenue than any other one conference and probably more than some combined.
The NCAA would immediately collapse so where else would these other schools/conferences turn.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 2:42 pm to Jma313
The best thing that could happen is for the Bama baseball team to turn it around and bid for a regional. I realize (or think I realize) Bama currently has no legislation regarding this issue.
BUT, assuming Bama enacted such legislation and the Tide baseball team qualified for and wanted to host a regional, even though it's baseball I suspect the NCAA would suddenly decide to sit this one out.
BUT, assuming Bama enacted such legislation and the Tide baseball team qualified for and wanted to host a regional, even though it's baseball I suspect the NCAA would suddenly decide to sit this one out.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 2:54 pm to Jjdoc
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will not change anything. The development of the muscle fibers and bones is done.
It can not be undone. Cutting them off won't undo it. Suppressing test wont do it.
This. I suppose a child taking hormone blockers wouldn’t develop the muscle and bone of a man but doing that to a child is majorly fricked up
Posted on 4/13/21 at 3:09 pm to Tackle74
You are a mizzou fan. Of course you would think it's ok. Yall been woke for a while.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 3:46 pm to Jack Ruby
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That's why these schools should start their own coalition and band together in a semi-union (leftists love those, right?) and then go to the ncaa and lay down the law or tell them they're out. The NCAA would cave like a cheap suit.
They won’t though. Most schools are run by leftists now. They’ll complain to the state legislature until they cave
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:13 pm to TideFaninFl
quote:I keep hearing this used as an argument, but probably not a single person on this board has ever seen a situation where that actually happened. I honestly don’t get why so many states are attacking transgender people. I personally don’t really understand transgender people or why someone born a male thinks he is a female, but you know what? That doesn’t personally effect me. If someone born a male wants to be recognized as a female, then let’s show it hem some damn respect and love them instead of hating them. Judge them for their character, not what sex they identify as and get off your damn moral high horse and recognize the he humanity in others. Being a decent human being shouldn’t be that difficult.
So is the ncaa going to allow men to compete in women's sports? If so, will they allow the record book to be rewritten? How about a record book for men, women and other?
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:42 pm to ThaiTiger24
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I keep hearing this used as an argument, but probably not a single person on this board has ever seen a situation where that actually happened.
Two points. If it never happens then why is the NCAA addressing it as well as states.
Second.. CeCe Telfer Broke records as a man running as a woman in college. 2 Girls in high school lost their opportunity to race in state finals because to grown arse men ran as women. Both broke the record in the same race placing 1st and 2nd.
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I honestly don’t get why so many states are attacking transgender people. I personally don’t really understand transgender people or why someone born a male thinks he is a female, but you know what? That doesn’t personally effect me.
Wrong. Look up the amount of money the current admin is now spending on this WORLD WIDE.
Second, YOU are not the only person in the world. If you don't understand why it's wrong for a man to compete in women sports and how they will dominate because they have a competitive advantage then no amount of SCIENCE is going to help you grasp it.
Do you think it's ok for a man to fracture a woman's skull? That's exactly what happened in a match. Fallon Fox twice broke an opponent’s skull to win matches. Fox told Outsports: “My teammates had no idea I was trans."
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If someone born a male wants to be recognized as a female, then let’s show it hem some damn respect and love them instead of hating them. Judge them for their character, not what sex they identify as and get off your damn moral high horse and recognize the he humanity in others. Being a decent human being shouldn’t be that difficult.
You are the on on a high horse. They want to compete.. Compete as a man. Be your trans self, but compete as a man!
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:02 pm to Jjdoc
Hmm, I wonder if ThaiTiger24 let something slip about himself. Or maybe it’s “herself.”
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:36 pm to Pickle_Weasel
Like they were coming here anyway. Where would they have the game?? On the coast?? Desoto county?. Sure as hell ain't gonna be in shithole Jackson.
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