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Jeremy Johnson vs Bo Nix
Posted on 12/11/20 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 12/11/20 at 2:08 pm
JJ (2015) - I used this year due to his pass attempts. Most of his career
60% completion 10 TDs 7 INTs
Bo Nix (2020)
61.5% 10 TDs 7 INTs
Bo is at 283 attempts this year vs 157 for JJ.
We give JJ shite and consider him the worst QB of the Gus era, but Bo is hot on his trail.
60% completion 10 TDs 7 INTs
Bo Nix (2020)
61.5% 10 TDs 7 INTs
Bo is at 283 attempts this year vs 157 for JJ.
We give JJ shite and consider him the worst QB of the Gus era, but Bo is hot on his trail.
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 2:12 pm to AUCE05
This is a bad post for many obvious reasons. I’ll give you a few minutes to figure out before I contextualize the stats for you but I’m currently waiting in line at the bank.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 2:17 pm to auburnnyc94
Go ahead, bro. Completion % is similar, even though Bo has more attempts. Someone on another board stated he is at 36% when you take away screens. I did not include that because I cannot confirm. TDs to INTs are worse when you compare his attempts. Point is we think of JJ as a complete failure, but Bo is not substantially better.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 2:54 pm to AUCE05
In his 7 career starts vs P5 competition, JJ averaged 125 yards passing per game. His high was 243 in the 2014 opener vs Arky which proved to be an aberration. His next highest total was 169 yards in the 2015 Iron Bowl, 77 of which came from a lucky tipped ball to Jason Smith.
JJ, in 7 games vs P5:
57% completion percentage
125 YPG passing
9 YPG rushing
1.3 Total TD per game
26.2 pass attempts per interception
1 Backwards Pass
Bo, this season:
61% completion percentage
222 YPG passing
37 YPG rushing
1.8 Total TD per game
40.4 pass attempts per interception
1 Backwards Pass
Stidham, 2018 vs P5:
61% completion percentage
226 YPG passing
2.2 YPG rushing
1.4 Total TD per game
61 pass attempts per interception
0 Backwards Passes
Stidham is a much better barometer for Nix than any recent Auburn QB I'm thinking. 2017 Stidham is a high end Nix season, probably.
JJ, in 7 games vs P5:
57% completion percentage
125 YPG passing
9 YPG rushing
1.3 Total TD per game
26.2 pass attempts per interception
1 Backwards Pass
Bo, this season:
61% completion percentage
222 YPG passing
37 YPG rushing
1.8 Total TD per game
40.4 pass attempts per interception
1 Backwards Pass
Stidham, 2018 vs P5:
61% completion percentage
226 YPG passing
2.2 YPG rushing
1.4 Total TD per game
61 pass attempts per interception
0 Backwards Passes
Stidham is a much better barometer for Nix than any recent Auburn QB I'm thinking. 2017 Stidham is a high end Nix season, probably.
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 12/11/20 at 2:59 pm to AUCE05
OP sums up everything there is to hate about message boards... taking a kernel of truth, wrap it in a bunch of bullshite, then pose a stupid question.... then watch people argue over it.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 3:07 pm to auburnnyc94
Bbbuuut JJ was going to win the Heisman and I've never thought that about . . .
Posted on 12/11/20 at 3:16 pm to auburnnyc94
bullshite. Bo's numbers are inflated due to the massive amount of screen passes we throw.
JS and JJ were in an offense that attacked down field. Bo struggles with anything past 10 yards.
JS and JJ were in an offense that attacked down field. Bo struggles with anything past 10 yards.
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 12/11/20 at 3:20 pm to AUCE05
I don’t think you’re talking about the same Nix that plays for Auburn. He isn’t there yet but he’s pretty close to turning me into a fanboy. I think he turns it on even more next year.
JJ was always trash. He played a good game against Arkansas but afterwards his direct passes to linebackers over and over again killed me inside. Nix doesn’t turn the ball over a whole lot. He also beat Bama as a TF. JJ didn’t win anything of note.
JJ was always trash. He played a good game against Arkansas but afterwards his direct passes to linebackers over and over again killed me inside. Nix doesn’t turn the ball over a whole lot. He also beat Bama as a TF. JJ didn’t win anything of note.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 3:25 pm to AUCE05
quote:
bullshite. Bo's numbers are inflated due to the massive amount of screen passes we throw.
JS and JJ were in an offense that attacked down field. Bo struggles with anything past 10 yards.
JJ Yards per Attempt vs P5:
6.69
Nix Yards per Attempt this season:
7.06
This is the weirdest revisionist history I've ever seen.
JJ is one of the worst QB's in Auburn history. Bo clearly belongs at this level, he's just been inconsistent through his first two seasons.
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 12/11/20 at 3:29 pm to auburnnyc94
Gus QB tiers
Tier 1:
Cam
Tier 2:
Nick Marshall
Tier 3:
Stidham
Nix
Tier 4:
Sean White
Barrett Trotter
Chris Todd
Tier 5:
Clint Moseley
Kiehl Frazier
Jeremy Johnson
Tier 1:
Cam
Tier 2:
Nick Marshall
Tier 3:
Stidham
Nix
Tier 4:
Sean White
Barrett Trotter
Chris Todd
Tier 5:
Clint Moseley
Kiehl Frazier
Jeremy Johnson
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 12/11/20 at 3:34 pm to auburnnyc94
JJ was terrible. So is Bo. The talent surrounding Bo is more than JJ had, and he still struggles with downhill passing. Why some of you still defend this clown is mind boggling.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 3:36 pm to AUCE05
I'd just like you to admit Bo is clearly far superior to JJ and that Stidham is a much better comparison.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 3:36 pm to auburnnyc94
But he is not.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 3:38 pm to AUCE05
Alright man. If you can just ignore evidence to the contrary, this conversation is useless.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 3:42 pm to auburnnyc94
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I'd just like you to admit Bo is clearly far superior to JJ and that Stidham is a much better comparison.
Stidham is a much Better thrower than Bo. Bo is a much better runner however.
JJ was bad. He may have comparable stats to Bo but JJ had a way better team around him, and played before the offense was totally figured out.
I think Stidham and Bo are fairly equal when you account for arm (Stid is better) and legs (Bo is better). Neither is a good fit for this offense. They are both much better than JJ.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 3:43 pm to Skyler97
Agreed on all points
Posted on 12/11/20 at 3:46 pm to auburnnyc94
Me too.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 3:56 pm to auburnnyc94
What evidence do you have that indicates he is better?
Keep in mind I am just showing Bo is closer to JJ than most here will admit. Not that JJ is a better QB.
Keep in mind I am just showing Bo is closer to JJ than most here will admit. Not that JJ is a better QB.
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 12/11/20 at 3:57 pm to auburnnyc94
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Gus QB tiers
I’d put Marshall in tier 1 for 2013 alone. That guy is one of the most athletic QBs in CFB history and doesn’t get the credit he deserves.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 4:03 pm to AUCE05
Well there is the eye test and there is the stats. Other than that not much!
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