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re: SEC Defense Stats (per SECstatcat)
Posted on 10/21/20 at 1:28 pm to diddlydawg7
Posted on 10/21/20 at 1:28 pm to diddlydawg7
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I honestly think UGA is as good if not better at pass-blocking than Alabama. Stetson Bennett has only been sacked 5 times all year. Mac has been sacked 8 times.
I haven't watched every snap of Georgia, so I won't try to compare, but we run pass plays that take a long time to develop - even against blitzes.
SEC Rank
Throws off of Play-Action
1. Mac Jones (38.3%)
7. Stetson Bennett (20.2%)
Time before Throwing
2. Setson Bennett (2.20 s)
5. Mac Jones (2.29 s)
Either way, they've both done a nice job this year. They've combined to give up a grand total of 35 pressures off of 239 attempts. That's pretty incredible.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 1:37 pm to diddlydawg7
Stetson is also better at getting away from pressure.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 1:41 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Stetson is also better at getting away from pressure.
Sort of.
He did tend to run into other pressure while escaping initial pressure. That's what led to the 3rd pick - he got away from the initial but saw another defender about to sack him and made a hasty throw without seeing the full field.
I'd say he's quicker, but less overall awareness of where to go when he gets his initial escape.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 1:42 pm to Bench McElroy
Yep, they are balin
New DC is doing very good
New DC is doing very good
Posted on 10/21/20 at 1:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Georgia's Opposing Scoring Drive % was 15.79% before playing Alabama; they had given up 6 scoring drives over their first 3 games.
Alabama had 7 scoring drives when they played.
Alabama had 7 scoring drives when they played.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 1:46 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Jesus Christ Florida, how bad is your defense?
Posted on 10/21/20 at 1:51 pm to skrayper
It sounds like you’re basing that only on one game. He’s done a great job of avoiding pressures in the previous three games.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 2:46 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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It sounds like you’re basing that only on one game. He’s done a great job of avoiding pressures in the previous three games.
He did do a good job, but it wasn't exactly a murderer's row of defensive lines either.
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10. Tennessee (17.4%)
11. Auburn (17.1%)
14. Arkansas (10.7%)
Contrast to Jones' opponents:
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4. Ole Miss (21.5%)
6. Texas A&M (20.1%)
13. Missouri (12.2%)
Alabama had faced two teams in the upper half, one in the top 4, prior to playing Georgia. The best team at generating pressure that Stetson had seen prior to Alabama was #10 Tennessee.
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 10/21/20 at 2:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Thanks for putting that together, interesting to look at. I dont give too much thought to it this early on, once everyone plays more games we should get a better idea of how bad the defense is this year.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 2:56 pm to skrayper
Let me ask you this question then. If Bama has the better offensive line and Stetson and Jones are equal at avoiding the sack then why does Jones have more sacks than Stetson?
Posted on 10/21/20 at 3:00 pm to skrayper
Through 4 games a big reason why those 3 teams are so low is because they played Georgia
Posted on 10/21/20 at 4:21 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Let me ask you this question then. If Bama has the better offensive line and Stetson and Jones are equal at avoiding the sack then why does Jones have more sacks than Stetson?
I literally just spelled it out for you - Alabama faced teams WAY better at generating pressure than Georgia did.
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He did do a good job, but it wasn't exactly a murderer's row of defensive lines either.
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10. Tennessee (17.4%)
11. Auburn (17.1%)
14. Arkansas (10.7%)
Contrast to Jones' opponents:
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4. Ole Miss (21.5%)
6. Texas A&M (20.1%)
13. Missouri (12.2%)
Alabama had faced two teams in the upper half, one in the top 4, prior to playing Georgia. The best team at generating pressure that Stetson had seen prior to Alabama was #10 Tennessee.
Also, like I said, Stetson was better at getting away from a sack, but not better at knowing what to do afterwards. Sort of why he's thrown more picks than Jones, and way fewer TDs. Jones' is way more accurate when pressured; those two extra sacks are a pittance compared to be significantly better when pressured. Jones is less inclined to run and rather stand in the pocket and make the throw (a good example is when Waddle burned Georgia for a 90 yard TD - UGA had an unblocked rusher coming off the end). Stetson is likely to scramble and make a bad one, but avoid a couple of potential sacks.
Mac Jones - Pressure Rate 18.26 % / Success Rate 65.22 %
Stetson Bennett - Pressure Rate 16.13 % / Success Rate 43.55%
I.E. If you pressure Bennett, he may scramble away but more often than not the play goes in the defense's favor. If you pressure Jones, 2/3 of the time the play still goes poorly for the defense.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 4:24 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I find it amazing that the Bama defense has given up 1 less point on the season than A&M’s defense to this point in the season. The A&M defense has played well at times this year so I was shocked to have seen that earlier today.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 6:20 pm to deaux
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Jesus Christ Florida, how bad is your defense?
Just a smidge worse than yours
Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Defensive Success Rate
define "success..."
Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:47 pm to deaux
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Jesus Christ Florida, how bad is your defense?
Third and Grantham is real. We tried to tell our retarded cousins but MuLLLen hired him anyway.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:54 pm to GetmorewithLes
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define "success..."
For a defense
- allowing less than 50% of needed yardage on first down
- allowing less than 70% of needed yardage on 2nd down
- allowing less than 100% of yardage on 3rd and 4th down
So, examples
- Giving up 4 yards on 1st and 10 = success. Giving up 7 yards = failure
- Giving up 3 yards on 2nd and 7 = success. Giving up 6 yards = failure
- 3rd and 4th are more obvious - a stop is success, a conversion is failure
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Defensive Success Rate
5. Alabama (58.47%)
3 and Out Percentage
14. Alabama (21.7%)
The first stat is surprising. The second isn’t. It would be interesting to see an implied or weighted success rate geared more heavily towards 3rd and 4th down stops. Ultimately, defensive success means getting stops.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:23 pm to CaptainMorgan
Yep - 3rd down issues are the difference in us being a very solid defense and an average defense.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:25 pm to Bench McElroy
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Mississippi State's great defense has gotten completely lost in the shuffle due to how bad Costello and their offense has been this season. They're 10th in the country in opposing yards per game and has allowed 21, 24, and 28 points in the last three games despite the fact that they've committed 12 turnovers including two pick-sixes over that span. If they had any offensive support whatsoever, they would be widely considered one of the best units in college football this year.
Had you told me preseason we would have a good defense AND open the season by smoking LSU yet be 1-3 I would have LMFAO at your dumb arse, guess the joke is on me.
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