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re: Ryan Day says "exploring options to play fall ball" one day after AD says we stand beside
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:37 pm to BigB123
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:37 pm to BigB123
quote:careful. chicken is watching.
Their presidents who are probably communist voted against it. They don’t have any concept for the long time implications and probably think athletics just get in the way of academics anyway. This was a convenient excuse to try to kill what they loathe.
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:42 pm to lewis and herschel
quote:Comey never went rogue dude. there is a long list of nasty swamp dwellers associated with him.
Like Jim Comey,
football conference affiliated that is.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:06 pm to BigB123
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who are probably communist
Yell are fricking weird
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:59 pm to MrAUTigers
quote:What do you honestly think the likelihood is that a) a player gets covid and b) that player develops serious complications AND c) that player is a draft worthy prospect that doesn’t recover sufficiently and it costs them draft positioning. Now, even if that happens to one player (which is highly improbable) what do you think that costs the school i litigation? $1M? Hell let’s say $10M. If they don’t play football then these schools lose $50+ million. In other words, even under the most unlikely of scenarios, teams still make $40m more by playing than not.
So you think schools won't be liable if a player doesn't pass his NFL combine physical because of a heart condition caused by covid? Don't kid yourself.
You may think I’m being cold but I honestly think if we put legal liability to the side that these kids are safer playing football. They will get tested more often and are more likely to adhere to protocols with the focus of needing to prep for games, which means they are much less likely to get the virus to begin with. Even if one player gets it on campus or at a party, it’s more likely to be flagged in testing and that player will be quarantined and will not be getting others sick.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 9:22 am to BigB123
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What do you honestly think the likelihood is that a) a player gets covid and
From the outside looking in at MLB, and the fact universities are about to have thousands of students back on campus, it's pretty likely college football players will get covid. When this happens, there is a great chance they will pass it to teammates.
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b) that player develops serious complications
Health experts are having cause for concern with long term heart issues
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that player is a draft worthy prospect that doesn’t recover sufficiently and it costs them draft positioning.
see above. Players are failed because of health issues every few years.
1. The NFL teams don't want to pay big money to a player at risk with a health issue.
2. The NFL doesn't want to pay the families of a player who dies because of a health issue that went undetected.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 9:53 am to MrAUTigers
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Health experts are having cause for concern with long term heart issues
There's been ONE pro athlete thought to have a semi serious heart/health problems due to CV out of thousands of pro and amature players tested.
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there is a great chance
These guys are probably more vulnerable to catching it in their hometown as opposed to their home environment.
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1. The NFL teams don't want to pay big money to a player at risk with a health issue.
Teams draft players with "health" issues all the time and spend big bucks on em.
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The NFL doesn't want to pay the families of a player who dies because of a health issue that went undetected.
Good God,how MANY times has this EVER happened? Don't ya think these teams give these guys the most thorough physicals humanly/legally possible?
Posted on 8/13/20 at 10:21 am to RD Dawg
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Good God,how MANY times has this EVER happened?
well, there is the concussion thing that cost the NFL $1 billion.
Korey Stringer's family. Those two off the top of my head.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 10:23 am to MrAUTigers
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1. The NFL teams don't want to pay big money to a player at risk with a health issue.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 11:56 am to MrAUTigers
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quote]The NFL doesn't want to pay the families of a player who dies because of a health issue that went undetected.[/quote
This is what you stated and was preceded by a another statement about drafting injured player.You implied it was some sort of condition not detected by medical examinations after drafting or signing.Regardless,are saying the NFL was responsible for the deaths of players who got concussions? Do you wanna go after colleges and high schools as well? Might as well, correct?
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Korey Stringer's
WTF are you talking about?He died of heat stroke because the team practiced in full gear the hottest day of the year. LINK
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showed the original explanation of his death was accurate -- he died of heatstroke and multiple organ failure and had no pre-existing condition or substances in his system at the time of death.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 11:59 am to bayou prince
No one is playing football this fall.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 12:40 pm to RD Dawg
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RD Dawg
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.You implied it was some sort of condition not detected by medical examinations after drafting or signing.
I am talking about possible lawsuits in the future.
this is my exact quote.........
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So you think schools won't be liable if a player doesn't pass his NFL combine physical because of a heart condition caused by covid? Don't kid yourself.
ETA especially after members of the covid-19 NCAA medical panel have voiced their concerns about playing fall sports.
This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 8/13/20 at 12:53 pm to Shaft Williams
quote:a politician who can get the buckeyes on the field could beat a guy who cures cancer. Football is life in Ohio
Ohio State is the biggest deal as far as college football in that state. A politician who can help get the Buckeyes on the field this season can propel their career.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 12:57 pm to MrAUTigers
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am talking about possible lawsuits in the future
You brought up Kory Stringer and then concussions as you examples of liability with pre existing condition.One was completely wrong and the other is ambiguous at best as far as liability in pre existing conditions.
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So you think schools won't be liable if a player doesn't pass his NFL combine physical because of a heart condition caused by covid? Don't kid yourself.
Myocarditis has been around for YEARS and be caused by NUMEROUS conditions.Most who get it and recover don't even know they had it.I can promise you MULTIPLE have had it through the years and passed NFL physicals.
BTW,these guys can get COVID and resulting Myocarditis ANYWHERE and are much safer from getting both in a controlled environment. Why is this the big boogie man now?
Posted on 8/13/20 at 12:59 pm to RD Dawg
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Myocarditis has been around for YEARS and be caused by NUMEROUS conditions.Most who get it and recover don't even know they had it.I can promise you MULTIPLE have had it through the years and passed NFL physicals.
Yet Dr.s who are studying this virus daily are concerned by it this time.......but you know more than them.
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BTW,these guys can get COVID and resulting Myocarditis ANYWHERE and are much safer from getting both in a controlled environment.
A college campus with thousands of kids partying is a "controlled environment"?
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You brought up Kory Stringer and then concussions as you examples of liability with pre existing condition
I brought it up referring to lawsuits and athletes.
This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 8/13/20 at 1:22 pm to MrAUTigers
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Yet Dr.s who are studying this virus daily are concerned by it this time.......but you know more than them.
It's been around FOREVER and can be caused by multiple infections or viruses. LINK
Causes:viruses
Epstein-Barr virus (EBV)
Cytomegalovirus (CMV)
Hepatitis C
Herpes
HIV
Parvovirus
Chlamydia (a common sexually transmitted disease)
Mycoplasma (bacteria that cause a lung infection)
Streptococcal (strep) bacteria
Staphylococcal (staph) bacteria
Treponema (the cause of syphilis)
Borrelia (the cause of Lyme disease)
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Alcohol
Drugs
Lead
Spider bites
Wasp stings
Snakebites
Chemotherapy
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A college campus with thousands of kids partying is a "controlled environment"?
Getting tested multiple times a week is a along with almost everyone you spend most of your time with is a controlled environment dumbass.
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brought it up referring to lawsuits and athletes.
And as an example of pre existing conditions.
BTW please give me the link between CFB/CB and Myocarditis as opposed to someone who isn't CFB player? Don't ya think it'll be the 1st thing a CFB medical staff will check or look for if someone test positive?
Posted on 8/13/20 at 1:29 pm to RD Dawg
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It's been around FOREVER and can be caused by multiple infections or viruses. LINK
I am so glad you brought that up.
I was just doing some research on that because we have so many experts spewing the same thing regarding it.
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The disease severity may vary greatly, ranging from asymptomatic or mild flu-like symptoms to cardiogenic shock and sudden death (
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Patients presenting with chest pain with preserved left ventricular (LV) function typically have an excellent prognosis. Conversely, patients presenting with heart failure and/or life-threatening arrhythmias, in particular when associated with severe LV dysfunction, have a greater risk of adverse events during follow-up.
LINK
In other words, it's like a bee sting. A bee sting may be nothing more than a slight inconvenience to some where it could be life threatening for others.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 1:58 pm to MrAUTigers
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was just doing some research
I believe you were cutting and pasting from other threads but whatever.
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some where it could be life threatening for others.
Since there are multiple causes associated
with Myocarditis don't ya think for a second that multiple athletes have PROBABLY had this condition the last 40+ years?
And how are these guys "safer" from CV and Myocarditis if they don't play? We also know that the condition is rare among non critically ill under 60 CV patients and the its even more rare to cause any type of serious conditions in those groups.
Sorry,if Myocarditis is your excuse for calling off CFB then it should be the exact same excuse for calling off Fall classes.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 2:00 pm to RD Dawg
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Since there are multiple causes associated
with Myocarditis don't ya think for a second that multiple athletes have PROBABLY had this condition the last 40+ years?
I have no idea and don't claim to be a medical expert like others on here. ^^^^^(I hope you get the gist)
I do know that medical experts are very concerned about it with covid for some reason.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 2:03 pm to MrAUTigers
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n other words, it's like a bee sting. A bee sting may be nothing more than a slight inconvenience to some where it could be life threatening for others.
So what?? This is the case for all of the afflictions RD mentioned, this has been the case before Covid, and this will be the case after Covid. Why do you people insist on inflating the potential risks associated with Covid even when these risks are shown to exist unrelated to Covid?? It's beyond dumb!
Posted on 8/13/20 at 2:05 pm to tgdawg68
because, like I said above, medical experts are very concerned about it with covid for some reason. These are people who are trying to figure this thing out daily and who have been trained to do so.............unlike internet medical experts.
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